Oil washes up on Florida beaches

[JSt0rm]

I gave the guy a fair shot when he was elected. Thus far he has proven be just another failure who happens to have a D behind/in front of his name instead of an R.

I'm not calling for the government to swoop in and save the day, in fact I don't think it can and BP, or another oil company, is likely better equipped to solve the issue. However he should, at the very least as the head of our government, be bitch slapping BP on daily basis every chance he gets. He should also be firing, and possibly prosecuting, every dumbass in government who was part of the regulatory oversight process for offshore drilling and dropped the ball.

he fired the head of mms already and split it in 2. They sent a bill to bp for the initial 69 million the fed has spent flying their people around. They have set up a commission to look for criminal activity. What else? hmmm.

 

[irishScott]

Conservatives demanding government intervention?

I've died and gone to heaven.

Intervention and regulation are two different things.

 

[irishScott]

he fired the head of mms already and split it in 2. They sent a bill to bp for the initial 69 million the fed has spent flying their people around. They have set up a commission to look for criminal activity. What else? hmmm.

Well for starters there was the Army Corps of Engineers dragging their heels on building barriers to contain the oil. Being that the Army Corps of Engineers is, well, part of the Army and Obama is the Commander in Chief, you'd think a phone call or two could have gotten that rolling. Instead it remained a bureaucratic issue and caused mucho delays. Although given that Obama is little more than a bureaucrat I can't say I'm surprised.

 

[bfdd]

The whole world should have come together and stuck a hot poker up BP's ASS and got this shit fixed FAR FASTER... this is a disgrace

just sick

explain how they could of fixed this far faster please. i highly doubt BP wants this going on another single day, so please explain here how they can fix this TODAY then email them your plans please. hell if you can write up how to fix it TODAY i can get it into the hands of, at minimum, a BP refinery manager for you.

 

[Possessed Freak]

hey numnuts,

If I ran a multibillion dollar empire that required such activities I would have off site contingency plans in place for when the shit hit the fan. They didn't and now they will fail.

My nuts are not num...

If I had a multi-billion dollar empire, I am sure I would have a contingency plan for shit hitting a fan. I would probably break out the Clorox and bucket and start cleaning up the mess that the shit just caused.

You can't plan for everything, but you can attempt to do damage control and learn from mistakes.

 

[bfdd]

hey numnuts,

If I ran a multibillion dollar empire that required such activities I would have off site contingency plans in place for when the shit hit the fan. They didn't and now they will fail.

They had those, they didn't work now what? Don't be a fucking moron and think there was no planning for an event like this, they had some it wasn't sufficient. That's in HIND SIGHT. This is the first time something like this has happened, how do you prepare for that? The best you can and occasionally that isn't good enough. This spill is disgusting and destroying tons of wildlife and coastline. The catch is if they didn't have to build this so far off shore the burst may of happened at a depth where human divers could of fixed this rather than robots.

 

[JSt0rm]

Well for starters there was the Army Corps of Engineers dragging their heels on building barriers to contain the oil. Being that the Army Corps of Engineers is, well, part of the Army and Obama is the Commander in Chief, you'd think a phone call or two could have gotten that rolling. Instead it remained a bureaucratic issue and caused mucho delays. Although given that Obama is little more than a bureaucrat I can't say I'm surprised.

Well the reason is that they wanted to study and make sure that by creating the barriers you didn't create a faster flow of water and push the oil deeper into the wetlands. If you payed attention to the news you would know this.

 

[JSt0rm]

They had those, they didn't work now what?

They had no off site contingency plan. Prove me wrong. Show me a link.

 

[Patranus]

So here is a question to all of the "progressives" here who argue that people should put the environment ahead of the all mighty dollar.

Why aren't you in the Gulf cleaning up oil?

 

[JSt0rm]

So here is a question to all of the "progressives" here who argue that people should put the environment ahead of the all mighty dollar.

Why aren't you in the Gulf cleaning up oil?

So here is a question to all of the "neocons" here who argue that people should put the all mighty dollar ahead of the environment.

Why aren't you in the Gulf lapping up oil?

 

[JSt0rm]

You can't plan for everything, but you can attempt to do damage control and learn from mistakes.

You cant plan for a broken pipe? Cutting a pipe? Plugging a hole? Really? unacceptable

 

[bfdd]

They had no off site contingency plan. Prove me wrong. Show me a link.

Have you ever done any similar work? Prove they didn't have one. I've said numerous times I've worked in the industry, none of you have(as far as I know), I've also spent a lot of time working at a BP refinery. From what I know about the company, yeah they most likely had a contingency plan because when ever we'd do work for them they always had two or three.

I would also like to add that the BP refinery I spent a lot of time at is also the safest and environmentally conscience refinery I've ever worked at.

 

[bfdd]

You cant plan for a broken pipe? Cutting a pipe? Plugging a hole? Really? unacceptable

The goddamn fucking leak is how fucking far down again? Point me to the manned vessels capable of going down that far. God you're a dip shit.

 

[amdhunter]

America's penis is just getting lubed.

 

[JSt0rm]

Have you ever done any similar work? Prove they didn't have one.

They didn't have one. See? I'm sure you looked for a link and found nothing. If they did have one why didn't they use it? Everything that have done has been reactionary in nature. They are unsure about if these things would work and in fact they didn't work back in 1979.

And I dont give a fuck about doing that kind of work. I find little credibility in people who have considering how fucked up everything is. Your industry has clearly failed by every metric except one - pumping oil.

 

[JSt0rm]

The goddamn fucking leak is how fucking far down again? Point me to the manned vessels capable of going down that far. God you're a dip shit.

Thats the whole point...

They shouldn't be sticking their dicks down there if they dont have a plan and tech to fix a problem.

 

[bfdd]

Thats the whole point...

They shouldn't be sticking their dicks down there if they dont have a plan and tech to fix a problem.

... If we didn't have such a huge appetite for oil and stopped preventing them from building closer to the coast we might of already of had this fixed too what's your point? Also moron read ANY of the shit they've tried to do to fix this, all part of their contingency plan. Do you know how that saw blade got stuck? They were following their contingency plan and it too failed. Stop being such a fucking moron and think for a goddamn second. You guys keep bringing up how greedy etc BP is, you really think they wouldn't of came up with a contingency plan for something that could potentially(and is) losing them tens of millions of dollars a day? Just shut the fuck up on the matter because you and the literally millions of others who keep spouting off bullshit they know nothing about and lack the brain capacity to even logically think about the situation.

 

[dammitgibs]

Conservatives demanding government intervention?

I've died and gone to heaven.

Government!!! Get small and do something!!!

Say the city decides that they will spend lots of money on the police so they can go around and mow everyone's lawn. I do not like this I do not think it is the city's responsibility to come mow my lawn and I don't want my tax dollars spent on that. Then one day I get robbed and I call the cops to help me, but all the cops are busy out mowing lawns. Then jpeyton and senseamp say "you're such a hypocrite you were against the police then but now you want them to come help you!"

 

[Patranus]

So here is a question to all of the "neocons" here who argue that people should put the all mighty dollar ahead of the environment.

Why aren't you in the Gulf lapping up oil?

so you are avoiding my question.

I guess that is because when it comes down to it the dollar is more important to even the most "progressive" person.

 

[JSt0rm]

... If we didn't have such a huge appetite for oil and stopped preventing them from building closer to the coast we might of already of had this fixed too what's your point?

ok I see the new talking point. Environmentalists are at fault. You know what I say to industry? Deal with it, you fucking pussies. If you can't figure out how to work at a depth then you shouldn't be working at that depth... and if you can't afford to figure it out make more money or stfu.

Also moron read ANY of the shit they've tried to do to fix this, all part of their contingency plan. Do you know how that saw blade got stuck? They were following their contingency plan and it too failed. Stop being such a fucking moron and think for a goddamn second.

All of the shit they have tried have been "reactionary we don't know if it works" type shit. If they spent 50 million dollars over the last 15 years figuring out how to stop such an event at any depth they plan on working at they would of been able to go down there with PROVEN tactics. Instead they flail. You see the difference?

You guys keep bringing up how greedy etc BP is, you really think they wouldn't of came up with a contingency plan for something that could potentially(and is) losing them tens of millions of dollars a day?

Yes. I believe they didn't come up with shit. They had nothing. They haven't a clue what they are doing.

Just shut the fuck up on the matter because you and the literally millions of others who keep spouting off bullshit they know nothing about and lack the brain capacity to even logically think about the situation.

what the fuck are you talking about?

 

[bfdd]

ok I see the new talking point. Environmentalists are at fault. You know what I say to industry? Deal with it, you fucking pussies. If you can't figure out how to work at a depth then you shouldn't be working at that depth... and if you can't afford to figure it out make more money or stfu.

Not saying environmentalists are at fault, I'm just pointing out how stupid it is to make the argument you were. Moron.

All of the shit they have tried have been "reactionary we don't know if it works" type shit. If they spent 50 million dollars over the last 15 years figuring out how to stop such an event at any depth they plan on working at they would of been able to go down there with PROVEN tactics. Instead they flail. You see the difference?

Of course they are spending money to try and work at these depths there's evidence for that already, THEY FUCKING BUILT THE THING.

Yes. I believe they didn't come up with shit. They had nothing. They haven't a clue what they are doing.

The cutting and capping it was part of their contingency plan, the problem is 5000 feet down is really fucking hard to get to. They used a robot, you know one of those things you were saying they should invest in, to cut it and the blade got stuck. Again you're a moron, shit happens and you can't plan for everything.

what the fuck are you talking about?

I'm saying you're a fucking moron, to quote John Malkovich, "you are part of a league of morons." The reason for this is because you can't even think about this rationally. BP is doing as good of a job as they can period. They are losing more money each day than you and 9 others from your "league of morons" will make in 5 life times. You have to be incredibly stupid to think otherwise.

 

[JSt0rm]

dude, Can you debate without saying dumb shit? You don't hurt my feelings by trying to insult me... I dont care about you.
to recap...

If they can't get their shit to work at 5000ft then they shouldn't be drilling down there until they know how. - thats it.

I have no doubt BP is feeling pain... But just like with the banks the ceo and vp's all get paid on how much the company is making "right now" and this included cutting corners to keep the stocks up well now that shit blew up in their face and they are feeling it.

 

[bfdd]

dude, Can you debate without saying dumb shit? You don't hurt my feelings by trying to insult me... I dont care about you.
to recap...

If they can't get their shit to work at 5000ft then they shouldn't be drilling down there until they know how. - thats it.

I have no doubt BP is feeling pain... But just like with the banks the ceo and vp's all get paid on how much the company is making "right now" and this included cutting corners to keep the stocks up well now that shit blew up in their face and they are feeling it.

... they know how to work at 5000ft, that doesn't make it easy. You idiots keep saying they need to do more or that they don't care or any other number of reasons, but they make you sound like fucking morons. It is OBVIOUS they know how to work at 5000ft because THEY BUILT THE FUCKING THING. They even got a goddamn saw blade stuck in it trying to fix it. Ever cut pipe? Know anything about it? You and others keep spouting non sense making yourself look like morons, that is why I say as much. Outside of talking about how bad the oil spill is, wishing it was fixed or had never happened you have no fucking clue or experience in anything related so shut the fuck up, stop posting and pretending like you do.

 

[JSt0rm]

blarg blarg blarg blarg...

So they know how to pump oil at 5000 ft but they dont know how to fix this problem at 5000 ft. Do you see the difference? Are you too raged out to even see this simple simple dichotomy?

 

[dahunan]

... they know how to work at 5000ft, that doesn't make it easy. You idiots keep saying they need to do more or that they don't care or any other number of reasons, but they make you sound like fucking morons. It is OBVIOUS they know how to work at 5000ft because THEY BUILT THE FUCKING THING. They even got a goddamn saw blade stuck in it trying to fix it. Ever cut pipe? Know anything about it? You and others keep spouting non sense making yourself look like morons, that is why I say as much. Outside of talking about how bad the oil spill is, wishing it was fixed or had never happened you have no fucking clue or experience in anything related so shut the fuck up, stop posting and pretending like you do.

its ok.. just wait til you see the shores

Can you honestly assume--because that is what any of us are doing - assume they could not have built A SAFER WELL??

Its not like they paid for the god damn oil.. do you think that rig out there hadn't turned a profit yet? They only POST BILLION DOLLAR PROFITS.. BILLIONS... wtf... and you still kiss their ass and think they are doing everything possible..

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LONDON, April 27, 2010 British Petroleum Profit Doubles to $6.1B

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