Oil thread 9-7-06:Former BP head of Pipeline invokes 5th

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dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: GoPackGo

Thats funny...gas just went to $2.69 here.

Its insane.

Iran talks nukes and THEY make more money. Do you think they might be on to something?

Originally posted by: MadRat
Well, when they purposely buy gas at the most extreme prices during a glut, rampant gouging is the result. The only benefactors, the investors. Just as I feared, its the whole price manipulation of a uniquely necessary commodity by the large banks all over again. The story is developing rapidly just like the past market scams.

The really sad part is the resident Republicans here still screaming it is SUPPLY & DEMAND.
 

Engineer

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Oil tops $70 per barrel today. Analysts on CNBC expects $100 per barrel this year. States gas at $3.00 PLUS will be the new normal. Also states that at these levels, it could severly effect the US economy.
 

dullard

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Originally posted by: Engineer
Oil tops $70 per barrel today. Analysts on CNBC expects $100 per barrel this year. States gas at $3.00 PLUS will be the new normal. Also states that at these levels, it could severly effect the US economy.
Does anyone have a nice compact list of Anandtech posters who stated that oil was not going to be anywhere close to the inflation adjusted high of nearly $100?

While I don't quite believe the $300/barrel price of the thread title will be here any time soon, the $100/barrel price is certainly a realistic possibility.
 

Engineer

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Originally posted by: dullard
Originally posted by: Engineer
Oil tops $70 per barrel today. Analysts on CNBC expects $100 per barrel this year. States gas at $3.00 PLUS will be the new normal. Also states that at these levels, it could severly effect the US economy.
Does anyone have a nice compact list of Anandtech posters who stated that oil was not going to be anywhere close to the inflation adjusted high of nearly $100?

While I don't quite believe the $300/barrel price of the thread title will be here any time soon, the $100/barrel price is certainly a realistic possibility.


No, but I know of several (particularily one) that stated that we would see $30 before $80 (about this time last year). :D
 

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When I got out of the military back in 2002, I believe I remember paying $1.25 per gallon.
Here we are in 2006, and gas has approached $3.00 per gallon, but in this same timeframe, the price of a quart of 10W/30W motor oil STILL costs the same as it did five years ago.

Must be that supply & demand thing.. vehicles today don't use motor oil :)
 

Engineer

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Originally posted by: jlbenedict
When I got out of the military back in 2002, I believe I remember paying $1.25 per gallon.
Here we are in 2006, and gas has approached $3.00 per gallon, but in this same timeframe, the price of a quart of 10W/30W motor oil STILL costs the same as it did five years ago.

Must be that supply & demand thing.. vehicles today don't use motor oil :)


Nah, oil inventories are at an 8 year high. Can't be the same oil used to make gasoline! :p

Refinery capactiy is going to continue to bite the consumer (and reward the oil companies). I don't seen more refineries being built - ever - and why should they? Oil will eventually decline in quantity and there will be no need. Milk it for all it's worth and more.
 

charrison

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Originally posted by: Engineer
Originally posted by: jlbenedict
When I got out of the military back in 2002, I believe I remember paying $1.25 per gallon.
Here we are in 2006, and gas has approached $3.00 per gallon, but in this same timeframe, the price of a quart of 10W/30W motor oil STILL costs the same as it did five years ago.

Must be that supply & demand thing.. vehicles today don't use motor oil :)


Nah, oil inventories are at an 8 year high. Can't be the same oil used to make gasoline! :p

Refinery capactiy is going to continue to bite the consumer (and reward the oil companies). I don't seen more refineries being built - ever - and why should they? Oil will eventually decline in quantity and there will be no need. Milk it for all it's worth and more.

Maybe because motor oil is i a highly recycled product?

And yes refinaries have been expanded recently and there will be the need for refinaries as coal to liquids/gas will need such infrastructure.
 

dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: jlbenedict
When I got out of the military back in 2002, I believe I remember paying $1.25 per gallon.
Here we are in 2006, and gas has approached $3.00 per gallon, but in this same timeframe, the price of a quart of 10W/30W motor oil STILL costs the same as it did five years ago.

Must be that supply & demand thing.. vehicles today don't use motor oil :)

Don't forget there is hardly any oil to put in those quarts too.

The Republicans said so.
 

dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: charrison
Originally posted by: Engineer
Originally posted by: jlbenedict
When I got out of the military back in 2002, I believe I remember paying $1.25 per gallon.
Here we are in 2006, and gas has approached $3.00 per gallon, but in this same timeframe, the price of a quart of 10W/30W motor oil STILL costs the same as it did five years ago.

Must be that supply & demand thing.. vehicles today don't use motor oil :)
Nah, oil inventories are at an 8 year high. Can't be the same oil used to make gasoline! :p

Refinery capactiy is going to continue to bite the consumer (and reward the oil companies). I don't seen more refineries being built - ever - and why should they? Oil will eventually decline in quantity and there will be no need. Milk it for all it's worth and more.
Maybe because motor oil is is a highly recycled product?

And yes refinaries have been expanded recently and there will be the need for refinaries as coal to liquids/gas will need such infrastructure.

Another lie. Typical Republican drivel that they expect the Sheeple to believe.

Oil is not recycled into Oil to be used in vehicles again.

It is re-used into other products that require a petroleum base.
 

charrison

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Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: charrison
Originally posted by: Engineer
Originally posted by: jlbenedict
When I got out of the military back in 2002, I believe I remember paying $1.25 per gallon.
Here we are in 2006, and gas has approached $3.00 per gallon, but in this same timeframe, the price of a quart of 10W/30W motor oil STILL costs the same as it did five years ago.

Must be that supply & demand thing.. vehicles today don't use motor oil :)
Nah, oil inventories are at an 8 year high. Can't be the same oil used to make gasoline! :p

Refinery capactiy is going to continue to bite the consumer (and reward the oil companies). I don't seen more refineries being built - ever - and why should they? Oil will eventually decline in quantity and there will be no need. Milk it for all it's worth and more.
Maybe because motor oil is is a highly recycled product?

And yes refinaries have been expanded recently and there will be the need for refinaries as coal to liquids/gas will need such infrastructure.

Another lie. Typical Republican drivel that they expect the Sheeple to believe.

Oil is not recycled into Oil to be used in vehicles again.

It is re-used into other products that require a petroleum base.


Maybe so, I only assumed it would be recycled back into motor oil as the oil is for the most part only dirty.
 

dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: charrison
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: charrison
Originally posted by: Engineer
Originally posted by: jlbenedict
When I got out of the military back in 2002, I believe I remember paying $1.25 per gallon.
Here we are in 2006, and gas has approached $3.00 per gallon, but in this same timeframe, the price of a quart of 10W/30W motor oil STILL costs the same as it did five years ago.

Must be that supply & demand thing.. vehicles today don't use motor oil :)
Nah, oil inventories are at an 8 year high. Can't be the same oil used to make gasoline! :p

Refinery capactiy is going to continue to bite the consumer (and reward the oil companies). I don't seen more refineries being built - ever - and why should they? Oil will eventually decline in quantity and there will be no need. Milk it for all it's worth and more.
Maybe because motor oil is is a highly recycled product?

And yes refinaries have been expanded recently and there will be the need for refinaries as coal to liquids/gas will need such infrastructure.

Another lie. Typical Republican drivel that they expect the Sheeple to believe.

Oil is not recycled into Oil to be used in vehicles again.

It is re-used into other products that require a petroleum base.

Maybe so, I only assumed it would be recycled back into motor oil as the oil is for the most part only dirty.
Well, thanks for owning up to that.

Now enjoy those garbage bags and other plastic products made from the recycled Oil.
 

charrison

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Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: charrison
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: charrison
Originally posted by: Engineer
Originally posted by: jlbenedict
When I got out of the military back in 2002, I believe I remember paying $1.25 per gallon.
Here we are in 2006, and gas has approached $3.00 per gallon, but in this same timeframe, the price of a quart of 10W/30W motor oil STILL costs the same as it did five years ago.

Must be that supply & demand thing.. vehicles today don't use motor oil :)
Nah, oil inventories are at an 8 year high. Can't be the same oil used to make gasoline! :p

Refinery capactiy is going to continue to bite the consumer (and reward the oil companies). I don't seen more refineries being built - ever - and why should they? Oil will eventually decline in quantity and there will be no need. Milk it for all it's worth and more.
Maybe because motor oil is is a highly recycled product?

And yes refinaries have been expanded recently and there will be the need for refinaries as coal to liquids/gas will need such infrastructure.

Another lie. Typical Republican drivel that they expect the Sheeple to believe.

Oil is not recycled into Oil to be used in vehicles again.

It is re-used into other products that require a petroleum base.

Maybe so, I only assumed it would be recycled back into motor oil as the oil is for the most part only dirty.
Well, thanks for owning up to that.

Now enjoy those garbage bags and other plastic products made from the recycled Oil.

linkage

Looks like I may not be wrong after all.

One gallon of used motor oil provides the same 2.5 quarts of lubricating oil as 42 gallons of crude oil.

Looks like there is a very strong economic factor in turning old motor oil into new motor oil.
 

Engineer

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One of the Federal Reserve Board govenors stated today that the Fed had to remain vigilant because of the sheer high prices coming down the pipe from energy. Looks like interest rate hikes might just be around longer than thought. Consumers being hit on all sides with high energy prices and higher rates on their "spending side" (negative savings).

Also, some economists have (CNBC) now stated that they believe that GDP for the 2nd quarter may come in at 2.5% because of the high energy prices. Not sure on that one.
 

Engineer

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Originally posted by: conjur
Any analysis spewed on CRNC needs to be taken with several salt mines.

Other than Kudlow and Company (extreme Elitist righty), I find CNBC to be pretty balanced. Lou Dobbs is the man (Kramer is the nut)! :p
 

dmcowen674

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Congrats bush and Republicans.

No natural disaster to blame this time, it's strictly a GOP disaster.

4-17-2006 Oil Prices Settle at Record, Above $70

WASHINGTON - Oil prices settled at a record high above $70 a barrel on Monday, rising more than $1 on concerns about supply disruptions in Nigeria and diplomatic tensions between the West and Iran over Tehran's nuclear ambitions.

On an inflation-adjusted basis, oil prices would have to rise above $90 to exceed the all-time highs set a quarter century ago when supplies became tight in the aftermath of a revolution in Iran and a war between Iraq and Iran. In 2005 dollars, the average price of crude in 1980 was just under $77 a barrel.
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Of course had to throw in the Republican excuse that it's still under inflation :roll:

 

dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: charrison
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: charrison
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: charrison
Originally posted by: Engineer
Originally posted by: jlbenedict
When I got out of the military back in 2002, I believe I remember paying $1.25 per gallon.
Here we are in 2006, and gas has approached $3.00 per gallon, but in this same timeframe, the price of a quart of 10W/30W motor oil STILL costs the same as it did five years ago.

Must be that supply & demand thing.. vehicles today don't use motor oil :)
Nah, oil inventories are at an 8 year high. Can't be the same oil used to make gasoline! :p

Refinery capactiy is going to continue to bite the consumer (and reward the oil companies). I don't seen more refineries being built - ever - and why should they? Oil will eventually decline in quantity and there will be no need. Milk it for all it's worth and more.
Maybe because motor oil is is a highly recycled product?

And yes refinaries have been expanded recently and there will be the need for refinaries as coal to liquids/gas will need such infrastructure.

Another lie. Typical Republican drivel that they expect the Sheeple to believe.

Oil is not recycled into Oil to be used in vehicles again.

It is re-used into other products that require a petroleum base.

Maybe so, I only assumed it would be recycled back into motor oil as the oil is for the most part only dirty.
Well, thanks for owning up to that.

Now enjoy those garbage bags and other plastic products made from the recycled Oil.

linkage

Looks like I may not be wrong after all.

One gallon of used motor oil provides the same 2.5 quarts of lubricating oil as 42 gallons of crude oil.

Looks like there is a very strong economic factor in turning old motor oil into new motor oil.

On average, about four million people reuse motor oil as a lubricant for other equipment or take it to a recycling facility.

Recycled used motor oil can be re-refined into new oil, processed into fuel oils and used as raw materials for the petroleum industry.

One gallon of used motor oil provides the same 2.5 quarts of lubricating oil as 42 gallons of crude oil.
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Please re-read.

While it is OK to use old oil to lubricate your door hinges, it is not common practice to put back into your ICE (Internal Combustion Engine).

I don't think you will find re-cycled Oil on the store shelf or your local Speedy Lube.

If you do, please let me know who is willing enough to take the risk on their expensive automobile investment. Does vehicle warranty's accept re-cycled oil???
 

dmcowen674

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4-19-2006 Iran President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said Wednesday Oil Prices Still Below Real Value

TEHRAN, Iran - President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said Wednesday that crude oil prices were still below their "real value," and developed countries were benefiting the most from high oil prices, state-run Tehran radio reported.

"The global oil price has not reached its real value yet. The products derived from crude oil are sold at prices dozens of times higher than those charged by oil-producing countries," the report quoted Ahmadinejad as saying.
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Can't wait for the resident Republicans to side with the Iranian Terrist President.
 

Darkhawk28

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Originally posted by: dmcowen674
4-19-2006 Iran President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said Wednesday Oil Prices Still Below Real Value

TEHRAN, Iran - President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said Wednesday that crude oil prices were still below their "real value," and developed countries were benefiting the most from high oil prices, state-run Tehran radio reported.

"The global oil price has not reached its real value yet. The products derived from crude oil are sold at prices dozens of times higher than those charged by oil-producing countries," the report quoted Ahmadinejad as saying.
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Can't wait for the resident Republicans to side with the Iranian Terrist President.

Don't they already? (with regards to oil prices)
 

Vic

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Originally posted by: dmcowen674
America pays more for plenty of things, like food, than the rest of the world. It's the price of living in the worlds greatest economy.
Americans also get paid more for their labor. You don't suppose you're being your usual trollish self here and only telling half the story, do you, Dave?

And here I thought you hated Wal-Mart... ;)
 

dmcowen674

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4-20-2006 Republican Congresswoman sends letter to constituent telling him he is an asshole for questioning Exxon profits

WASHINGTON - Nobody expects to get a letter from a member of Congress that ends with an expletive.

But that's what happened when Rep. Jo Ann Emerson, R-Mo., recently corresponded with a resident of her southeast Missouri district.

The man who received the letter, Bill Jones, of Centerville, Mo., declined to comment when reached by phone at his home Wednesday.

A copy of the letter had made its way to the Missouri Democratic Party, which faxed it to the AP.

Connor said that Emerson personally signed the letter, dated Feb. 15. She included a handwritten personal message at the bottom: "PS - please forgive the delay in responding."

Link to the Letter