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Oil Spill hurting Native American Land

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manlymatt83

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http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/06/01/oil.spill.native.americans/index.html?hpt=C1

Pointe Aux Chenes, Louisiana (CNN) -- The marshes here have long been a refuge for the Native Americans living in Louisiana's bayou.

"We came to live here because it was marshland, where nobody else wanted to live," said Chuckie Verdin, the chairman of the Pointe Aux Chenes Indian Tribe.

The tribe is made up of about 700 members whose ancestors were forced from their lands and resettled to Louisiana more than 100 years ago.

That refuge, already strained from coastal erosion, is facing a new menace: the oil spill spreading uncontrollably across the Gulf of Mexico.
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Quite sad actually =( I almost wish I could go help them.
 
you can blame the eco-KOOKS for this whole mess. They kept pushing the oil rigs into deeper water.
 
jjsole said:
If deep water drilling were that insecure, all deep water rigs would be leaking right now. Blame for this goes to BP.
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they could operate the rigs in shallower waters closer to land rather then 5 miles out and one mile down to the drilling surface and many thousands of feet to the oil. do the math. your green scum eco-KOOKS are to blame for all of this.
 
Guess what - when you drill for oil, accidents are prone to happen.

For the number of oil wells in the Gulf of Mexico, the rate of failure has actually been rather low.

For as long as we still require oil to do the things we do, we are going to have these issues.

Now, where I do agree with IGBT:
eco-kooks are preventing the extraction of oil in plenty of easily accessed places on land.
Failures on land are easily contained, unlike a spill in the water, especially in comparison to a leak on the ocean floor.

But even then, to satisfy the need for oil, the amount of accessible oil from U.S. land pales in comparison to what is available in the seas. So we'll continue to look there for as long as there is a need for oil.

The world's dependence on oil isn't going anywhere.
The U.S.'s use of oil isn't so much to blame on the population, as it is to be blamed on the geography of our continent and how we have settled the vast territory. Can't really change the demographics now.
It's the same reason we'll always be behind in communications technology and developments in new methods of travel. Everything is based on long distances, and thus our ability to use alternative methods of transportation and energy is going to be far different than smaller, more densely-populated countries.
 
destrekor said:
The world's dependence on oil isn't going anywhere.
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Why not?

The way I see it, we're going to run out at some point - whether that's in 18 months or whatever the alarmists are saying these days, or 50 years. There's not an unlimited amount of it out there, and it's a messy messy source of energy. Messy to dig/pump up, messy to refine, messy to burn. The same with coal.

I won't pretend to have the answer for a good alternative, but the idea that we've made little/no progress in finding something better in almost 40 years since the oil shocks of the 70s is just terrible.

We need to do something other than sitting on our hands.
 
jjsole said:
This doesn't appear to be an accident, rather a product of mismanagement, poor judgment, and negligence, which is 100% inexcusable.
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It doesnt change the fact that these things are bound to happen.
But yeah, there would be fewer and less intense accidents if companies would put a little more effort into safety. Since that doesnt come naturally to someone only looking for a profit, we need the government to step in with safety requirements.
Of course, if the government shirks its safety responsibilities, the people need to exercise their power and vote the cocksuckers out of office. Why do you think Obama is so quick to blame everyone else?
He knows he is automatically the default scapegoat just for being president.

And since I mentioned his name, this thread can now be moved to P&N, where it belongs.

:awe:
 
rivan said:
Why not?

The way I see it, we're going to run out at some point - whether that's in 18 months or whatever the alarmists are saying these days, or 50 years. There's not an unlimited amount of it out there, and it's a messy messy source of energy. Messy to dig/pump up, messy to refine, messy to burn. The same with coal.

I won't pretend to have the answer for a good alternative, but the idea that we've made little/no progress in finding something better in almost 40 years since the oil shocks of the 70s is just terrible.

We need to do something other than sitting on our hands.
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an energy equivalent is required. So far nothing comes close to the energy density/portability/usability of oil/gas. as far as running out, I doubt it. we are finding oil in areas where there was never any geographical turnover which suggests oil may be renewable because it's a product of deep earth activity rather then the dino "theory". The eco-KOOK agenda is to stop all human activity and bring back contagious disease. Read their book, "The Earth Without US" (required serra club kook reading).



http://www.dailygalaxy.com/my_weblo...ioshpere-preceed-life-on-earths-surface-.html
 
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shortylickens said:
It doesnt change the fact that these things are bound to happen.
But yeah, there would be fewer and less intense accidents if companies would put a little more effort into safety. Since that doesnt come naturally to someone only looking for a profit, we need the government to step in with safety requirements.
Of course, if the government shirks its safety responsibilities, the people need to exercise their power and vote the cocksuckers out of office. Why do you think Obama is so quick to blame everyone else?
He knows he is automatically the default scapegoat just for being president.

And since I mentioned his name, this thread can now be moved to P&N, where it belongs.

:awe:
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The political irony is this that this is the disastrous effect of less government (as it shirked its responsibilities), while at the same time showing how unreliable and inept the government is.

I'm have to favor anarchy on this one. 😛
 
IGBT said:
you can blame the eco-KOOKS for this whole mess. They kept pushing the oil rigs into deeper water.
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This is wrong. There were at least 5 mistakes made by BP and transocean which led to failure of well head.
 
IGBT said:
they could operate the rigs in shallower waters closer to land rather then 5 miles out and one mile down to the drilling surface and many thousands of feet to the oil. do the math. your green scum eco-KOOKS are to blame for all of this.
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No. The deposits they are accessing in the deeper parts of the Gulf of Mexico could not be accessed by near-shore platforms. They are building in that part of the Gulf to turn a profit on never before drilled reservoirs.

Frankly, you have no idea what you are talking about.
 
SlitheryDee said:
Yeah yeah cry me a river. They're not special. This is going to fuck everyone in Louisiana.
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Actually everybody who works offshore, or supports the offshore oil and gas industry. Not all those folks who support the industry live in Louisiana.

irishScott said:
*Reads Thread Title*

No shit.

/moves on
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Zebo said:
This is wrong. There were at least 5 mistakes made by BP and transocean which led to failure of well head.
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Well head? are you sure you got that right? From what I have read and heard in the news media, along with watching some of the joint MMS /Coast investigation on C-Span, the well head is not the issue... Well stability and the process and methods which were employed to mitigate those risk are a central part of what went wrong that night. also BOP maintaince / operation. There are even questions as to why the EDS system failed to operate when activated.

The more Congress and MMS /Coast Guard dig into this the better picture we'll have as to the chain of events from management (TOI and BP) all they way down to the individuals on the rig who were forced to follow such directives
 
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