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Zargon said:
our failure?

British Petroleum is now American Petroleum?

if a mid east oil company blew a hole like this of your coast would it be a NZ fuck up?

its a company, not a nation
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I'm not talking about the company, I'm talking about that laughing stock you call regulation, and the complete lack of accountability in US courts. There is no justice over there - and these companies know it and take advantage of it.
 
Mike Gayner said:
I'm not talking about the company, I'm talking about that laughing stock you call regulation, and the complete lack of accountability in US courts. There is no justice over there - and these companies know it and take advantage of it.
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'Justice' only finds the poor, black man, not the rich, white robbers! 😉
 
BTW just heard on Marketplace morning report that BP and the government are re-evaluating their previous estimates of the magnitude of the spill - apparently it's much bigger than previously reported, and by far the biggest oil spill in history. I'm trying to find some corroborating details now.
 
Mike Gayner said:
BTW just heard on Marketplace morning report that BP and the government are re-evaluating their previous estimates of the magnitude of the spill - apparently it's much bigger than previously reported, and by far the biggest oil spill in history. I'm trying to find some corroborating details now.
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Awesome :/

This whole thing really is ridiculous. Shit pisses me off...
 
Mike Gayner said:
I'm not talking about the company, I'm talking about that laughing stock you call regulation, and the complete lack of accountability in US courts. There is no justice over there - and these companies know it and take advantage of it.
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dude its in INTERNATIONAL WATERS

the US has ZERO actualy juridiction of the actual rig.........


of course, I agree, the 'regulation' in some areas of this country are paltry at best
 
Mike Gayner said:
BTW just heard on Marketplace morning report that BP and the government are re-evaluating their previous estimates of the magnitude of the spill - apparently it's much bigger than previously reported, and by far the biggest oil spill in history. I'm trying to find some corroborating details now.
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nope, not even in the top 10.

http://envirowonk.com/content/view/68/1/

by the latest numbers of 19,000 bpd that's about 22 million gallons.



Mike Gayner said:
I'm not talking about the company, I'm talking about that laughing stock you call regulation, and the complete lack of accountability in US courts. There is no justice over there - and these companies know it and take advantage of it.
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no i'm fairly certain BP is going to be paying out the nose for this to a lot of people. my father (disclosure: BP retiree with decades of experience in the oil patch) wouldn't be shocked if they have to sell their interest in prudhoe bay to cover it.
 
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ElFenix said:
nope, not even in the top 10.

http://envirowonk.com/content/view/68/1/

by the latest numbers of 19,000 bpd that's about 22 million gallons.
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I think he meant American spills. Or BP spills.

But yeah, I remember when they opened up the wells in Kuwait. People all around the world were pissed off for one reason or another. Either it was an environmental disaster, or an economic one.

Actually, given the world has already had 34 worse spills, shouldnt the obvious question be: How did they clean them up?
 
zinfamous said:
4: Russia - 1994 - 84 million gallonsA broken pipeline in Russia leaked for eight months before it was noticed and repaired.

lolRussia.
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I can't really blame em too much. Those pipes are ridiculously long and 84 million gallons over 8 months wouldn't be THAT easily noticed on the loss of oil pressure charts. I may be wrong though.
 
Mike Gayner said:
It's not really that flammable - it takes serious effort to light crude. As for WTF you do if it does catch fire somehow...NFI because I don't see how you would put it out. Explosives I guess.
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why would you want to put it out?

burning the crude while it's on the water's surface would be ideal for cleanup. only problem is it's not flammable enough for that.
 
Fayd said:
why would you want to put it out?

burning the crude while it's on the water's surface would be ideal for cleanup. only problem is it's not flammable enough for that.
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that boston globe pic thread shows them burning some of it off, so I guess it is?
 
What a fucking catastrophe. BP had better pay for every last penny of the cleanup costs.
 
Zargon said:
that boston globe pic thread shows them burning some of it off, so I guess it is?
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it is in some cases. if the slick is thick enough, then they can. that's why they corral it up, then attempt to burn it.

i just did some calculations because i was wondering how much money in crude they were losing.

surprisingly, it's not that much. dunno how up to date the estimates on wikipedia are, but the most ridiculous estimate (20x BP's estimate) puts it at like 4 million dollars of crude.

dunno what i was expecting, but that seems really low to me.



tbh, guys, industrial accidents are an inevitable part of an industrialized country. it seems a bit hypocritical to me to criticize offshore drilling, hold this up as a 'poster child' for banning offshore drilling.....then climb into your SUV and go grocery shopping. :/

i'm ALL FOR making BP pay for the cleanup and *potentially* compensating the fisherman whose livelihoods are affected. but, then, that's paying for someone to do nothing. i dont like that either.

but BP IS paying for the cleanup.
 
shortylickens said:
Ummm, guys, wouldnt that produce a shitload of black smoke?
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lesser of 2 evils. besides, even if all the crude coming out of that hole were burned in the most inefficient means possible, i doubt it'd even come close to the pollution produced by the large container ships operating for a few weeks.
 
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