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Oil fields in alaska *With Poll*

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It wouldn't lower gas prices, someone is fooling you guys if you think that.

PROFIT $$$$ (expected, I'd do the same!)

 
Originally posted by: Philippine Mango
Originally posted by: Tiamat
The is a sensitive topic as you stated. I say no. We need alternatives to oil. If we drill, we will kill the ecosystem up there - and that is not healthy for the environment as a whole. Neither is increased oil usage.

I can only partly agree with you. I think that yes it's bad to drill there because it will only encourage people to use but for the environmental thing, it's total bull. These stupid hippies make up this bull about how it will ruin the "ecosystem" there when it really won't. All there is where they're going to drill is tundra where carabou walk... If we drilled there but increased price of oil, dropped arab depenancy for oil then I say, go for it all the way!
Have you been to that area in Alaska to make that stament?

Dill it if we could do with minimal environmental impact.
 
If drilling starts today, then in five years there may be oil producing wells, selling the oil at market rates. There will not be a special "cheap gas ration" handed out to every American.

"But it will increase supply, driving down prices!" you say.

No, OPEC and other producers will just cut production enough to keep the prices high. So we'll be paying just as much for gas, but the American oil company profits will increase.

Meanwhile, we're using up our oil reserves instead of the Saudis', so your children can be even more under the thumb of foreign producers once our own reserves are gone.

Even if you'd cheerfully kill all the wildlife in Alaska, drilling now is against your enlightened self-interest.

"So if it's a dumb idea, why do smart people want to drill now?"

Because they are paid off by the oil companies, and/or see the local, short-term benefit to the state of Alaska from selling off its children's oil, in the jobs and taxes it will generate.
 
Originally posted by: Philippine Mango
Originally posted by: Tiamat
The is a sensitive topic as you stated. I say no. We need alternatives to oil. If we drill, we will kill the ecosystem up there - and that is not healthy for the environment as a whole. Neither is increased oil usage.

I can only partly agree with you. I think that yes it's bad to drill there because it will only encourage people to use but for the environmental thing, it's total bull. These stupid hippies make up this bull about how it will ruin the "ecosystem" there when it really won't. All there is where they're going to drill is tundra where carabou walk... If we drilled there but increased price of oil, dropped arab depenancy for oil then I say, go for it all the way!

It isn't so much the drilling that is the problem as the transportation. Thousands of miles of road will need to be constructed. Roads tend to isolate biotic communities.
 
I haven't researched this myself, but I was curious about one thing. The supporters say the drilling will be localized to some isolated tundra, but wouldn't you have to build a pipeline and clear the area for huge tankers as well? I find it hard to believe that it could have only minimal impact on the wildlife.
 
Originally posted by: CptObvious
I find it hard to believe that it could have only minimal impact on the wildlife.

you call yourself CptObvious? change your screen name ASAP
 
Originally posted by: cavemanmoron
if the oil goes to the USA,and Canada,yes.


Smart man right there, excellent suggestion, but tell me why are we going to allow the Canadians to use it? Do they also have an oil reserve / field that they can tap into, allowing us to have a inter-country oil agreement? 😕
 
Originally posted by: DaveSimmons
Originally posted by: FoBoT
drilling in ANWR will not cause mass death to wildlife, that is tree hugger lies
But see above for why it's still a bad idea.

i read that part of your post , i am still considering it. people way smarter than us know that angle , perhaps. i dunno. we definitely have always had the advantage of more native natural resources that other great world powers in the past.

i heard on the radio that one of the big drivers of oil prices the last few years is the increasing demand in india and china as they become more industrialized. how much native oil reserves do china and india have? perhaps saving ours for later when china/india are heavily reliant on imported oil could be a good strategic move
 
Originally posted by: Hossenfeffer
Nope.

What we need to do is pump money into renewable energy sources. Wind farms, for example.

Good job, you are now killing birds with your giant windmills. Solar? That's a lot of land you cover. Screw the plants and the animals, we need renewable energy!
 
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