oil change after 6-7K miles and 1 year

[T2T III]

Originally posted by: Vic
One last time (and this is directly from the owners manual of my old '98 Acura that I accidentally kept after I sold the car), Honda's recommended oil change interval is 7,500 miles or 12 months.

Don't make me scan the damn page 😉 , as I'm leaving for the club right now...

Yes, but that is in a perfect world. Those numbers assume one is not driving constantly in stop-n-go traffic, etc.

7,500 miles in Kansas is not the same 7,500 miles that I drive in Washington, DC. At 25 M.P.H. (along with stop-n-go traffic) is quite abusive on the vehicle. Oil can't last that long without major breakdown.

If someone insists on going longer between intervals, I'd recommend that they use synthetic oil. Then, just swap out the filter and top off the oil every 5,000 miles.

 

[Howard]

Originally posted by: Tiles2Tech

Originally posted by: Vic
One last time (and this is directly from the owners manual of my old '98 Acura that I accidentally kept after I sold the car), Honda's recommended oil change interval is 7,500 miles or 12 months.

Don't make me scan the damn page 😉 , as I'm leaving for the club right now...

Yes, but that is in a perfect world. Those numbers assume one is not driving constantly in stop-n-go traffic, etc.

7,500 miles in Kansas is not the same 7,500 miles that I drive in Washington, DC. At 25 M.P.H. (along with stop-n-go traffic) is quite abusive on the vehicle. Oil can't last that long without major breakdown.

If someone insists on going longer between intervals, I'd recommend that they use synthetic oil. Then, just swap out the filter and top off the oil every 5,000 miles.

So you think Honda is recommending a number that will lead to a shorter life for almost all their engines?

 

[C'DaleRider]

Originally posted by: Howard

Originally posted by: Tiles2Tech

Originally posted by: Vic
One last time (and this is directly from the owners manual of my old '98 Acura that I accidentally kept after I sold the car), Honda's recommended oil change interval is 7,500 miles or 12 months.

Don't make me scan the damn page 😉 , as I'm leaving for the club right now...

Yes, but that is in a perfect world. Those numbers assume one is not driving constantly in stop-n-go traffic, etc.

7,500 miles in Kansas is not the same 7,500 miles that I drive in Washington, DC. At 25 M.P.H. (along with stop-n-go traffic) is quite abusive on the vehicle. Oil can't last that long without major breakdown.

If someone insists on going longer between intervals, I'd recommend that they use synthetic oil. Then, just swap out the filter and top off the oil every 5,000 miles.

So you think Honda is recommending a number that will lead to a shorter life for almost all their engines?

No, I think what he's saying is that 6K miles driven over a period of a year indicates its been all city stop-and-go driving, and that type of driving is considered SEVERE service by ANY manufacturer. And while Honda, and other manufacturers, have a 12K-1 yr. NORMAL service recommendation, I'd lay odds their SEVERE service recommendations aren't a year between oil changes.

 

[Colt45]

lifters are probably fuct. 6K miles isnt *that* excessive though. i mean its a lot, but.. not that bad.

 

[Spencer278]

Originally posted by: C'DaleRider

Originally posted by: Howard

Originally posted by: Tiles2Tech

Originally posted by: Vic
One last time (and this is directly from the owners manual of my old '98 Acura that I accidentally kept after I sold the car), Honda's recommended oil change interval is 7,500 miles or 12 months.

Don't make me scan the damn page 😉 , as I'm leaving for the club right now...

Yes, but that is in a perfect world. Those numbers assume one is not driving constantly in stop-n-go traffic, etc.

7,500 miles in Kansas is not the same 7,500 miles that I drive in Washington, DC. At 25 M.P.H. (along with stop-n-go traffic) is quite abusive on the vehicle. Oil can't last that long without major breakdown.

If someone insists on going longer between intervals, I'd recommend that they use synthetic oil. Then, just swap out the filter and top off the oil every 5,000 miles.

So you think Honda is recommending a number that will lead to a shorter life for almost all their engines?

No, I think what he's saying is that 6K miles driven over a period of a year indicates its been all city stop-and-go driving, and that type of driving is considered SEVERE service by ANY manufacturer. And while Honda, and other manufacturers, have a 12K-1 yr. NORMAL service recommendation, I'd lay odds their SEVERE service recommendations aren't a year between oil changes.

Just about any driving pattern will fall in to the SEVERE catagory.

 

[StageLeft]

Originally posted by: Spencer278

Originally posted by: C'DaleRider

Originally posted by: Howard

Originally posted by: Tiles2Tech

Originally posted by: Vic
One last time (and this is directly from the owners manual of my old '98 Acura that I accidentally kept after I sold the car), Honda's recommended oil change interval is 7,500 miles or 12 months.

Don't make me scan the damn page 😉 , as I'm leaving for the club right now...

Yes, but that is in a perfect world. Those numbers assume one is not driving constantly in stop-n-go traffic, etc.

7,500 miles in Kansas is not the same 7,500 miles that I drive in Washington, DC. At 25 M.P.H. (along with stop-n-go traffic) is quite abusive on the vehicle. Oil can't last that long without major breakdown.

If someone insists on going longer between intervals, I'd recommend that they use synthetic oil. Then, just swap out the filter and top off the oil every 5,000 miles.

So you think Honda is recommending a number that will lead to a shorter life for almost all their engines?

No, I think what he's saying is that 6K miles driven over a period of a year indicates its been all city stop-and-go driving, and that type of driving is considered SEVERE service by ANY manufacturer. And while Honda, and other manufacturers, have a 12K-1 yr. NORMAL service recommendation, I'd lay odds their SEVERE service recommendations aren't a year between oil changes.

Just about any driving pattern will fall in to the SEVERE catagory.

Again, one can refer back to the manual. Mine is pretty specific in regards to whether a person is schedule I or II. I'm closer to II (7500 miles) than I (3750). I compromise and go around the middle of 5-6k personally, and I feel that a schedule 1.5 would be that.

 

[godmare]

Originally posted by: Vic
For the RTFM crowd, Honda's recommend oil change interval in that car's owners manual is 7,500 miles. Just FYI :roll:

I seriously doubt that any damage has been done, so long as the oil has been continuously topped off. IIRC the engine in that car has solid valve lifters that require periodic adjustment, and that is very likely the sound you hear. Get that done. But first, get a new mechanic. Preferably one a bit more qualified (or less likely to try to screw by lying to you that the recommended oil change interval is 3-4k miles).

That's correct, that car has solid lifters, and Honda's recommended oil change interval is 7500 miles for light to moderate driving conditions. It's less for more severe driving.
Likely, too, though, is that the oil level dropped too low.

/edit:
wow, thread resurrection 🙂 whoops.

 

[thomsbrain]

GET A NEW MECHANIC.

no mechanic should be telling you a honda needs a new engine at 85K, that's freaking ridiculous. as someone else mentioned, what you are hearing is probably the valves, which are supposed to be adjusted every 30,000 miles or so, at least on my 91 accord. the fact that you can hear them clicking means they are already way out and doing damage to themselves, so take it to an import specialist ASAP to get that looked at.

and 6-7K miles on one oil change isn't going to harm your engine that bad. don't make a habit of it, of course, but as long as the oil level was ok, one time of going *gasp* almost as long as the recommended interval really isn't going to do that much to a honda.

but yeah, my 4-cylinder accord has 165K, and it's been through WAY rougher crap than that: one time a bad mechanic didn't torque the spark plugs right and two of them EJECTED from the cylinders and bounced away under the car. i was in a bad spot and had to drive it for a while, on two cylinders, with the other two just open to the air! (it sounded like a harley.) then the mechanic i took it to to get that fixed (it needed a valve job to fix the compression) totally messed up the whole works. the third mechanic found the timing was off, the valve lash was off (your likely problem), etc, etc, etc. That was 45,000 miles ago, and the only permanant "scar" is that it burns a little oil, probably from the work that crappy mechanic did. also, i drive this car hard, with a regular commute that includes stop-and-go, 80 MPH bursts, and an elevation change of 2000 feet and back again, each way.

so your little 85K engine that needs an oil change and the valve lash checked really isn't in bad shape, and certainly doesn't need to be replaced. 🙂

 

[Yzzim]

I didn't read the whole thread, so if someone suggested this already I missed it.

Anyway, when you change the oil again buy some Lucas Engine Oil Treatment such as this. I've heard many people say how they've had a knocking noise and when they put just a quart of that in with an oil change how the noise just disappears.

I have a 2000 Grand Prix and had a slight knocking noise. The last time I changed my oil I switched to synthetic and add that Lucas Oil Stabilizer and the noise is gone.

It's fairly expensive (around $15 I believe) but much cheaper then a new engine 😉