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waggy

No Lifer
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Originally posted by: manowar821
Holy christ, it's like walking around egg-shells with these pigs.

well duh. you should do that anyway. You should always watch what yous ay, how you say it and know your rights. A cops job is to catch people breaking the law no matter if you are the victim or not.


 

Pulsar

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Originally posted by: manowar821
Holy christ, it's like walking around egg-shells with these pigs.

Really? I've been pulled over 3 times and never felt like that. Each time the police-person was polite and courteous.

Now I suppose if my pupils had been dialated from some opiate, and my speech slurred and stinking of alcohol, it might be different. I even suppose if I get an attitude or started acting like a smart-ass it might be different. I even suppose if I gave him the wrong ID, then got verbally agressive and loud it might be different.

But I've always shown them respect, and so far they've always done the same for me. I wonder how many of millions of other police actions go on normally every day that we don't hear about because they do a good job?

Oh wait - I'm sorry. Fucking pigs. How dare they keep us safe with their lives.
 

StageLeft

No Lifer
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Originally posted by: Pulsar
Originally posted by: manowar821
Holy christ, it's like walking around egg-shells with these pigs.

Really? I've been pulled over 3 times and never felt like that. Each time the police-person was polite and courteous.

Now I suppose if my pupils had been dialated from some opiate, and my speech slurred and stinking of alcohol, it might be different. I even suppose if I get an attitude or started acting like a smart-ass it might be different. I even suppose if I gave him the wrong ID, then got verbally agressive and loud it might be different.

But I've always shown them respect, and so far they've always done the same for me. I wonder how many of millions of other police actions go on normally every day that we don't hear about because they do a good job?

Oh wait - I'm sorry. Fucking pigs. How dare they keep us safe with their lives.
I've been pulled over several times and all were "positive" experiences. However, that's hardly much of a statistical pool to pull from. Sometimes cops clearly do act like fugging monkeys. I can't see this video so I can't judge it.

 

JEDIYoda

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It`s idiotic to argue about things that you cannot possibly change by qarguing in these forums.

Hell, get some ATOT members who live nearby her and go out and picket......that`s the american way.
Voice your disapproval through your actions!!
 

nobodyknows

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Originally posted by: Wheezer

oh, and OP.....might want to research more before jumping the gun...or do you have a bias against cops?

I just have a bias against authority and videos like this one only reinforce that bias.
 

spidey07

No Lifer
Aug 4, 2000
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Originally posted by: nobodyknows
Originally posted by: Wheezer

oh, and OP.....might want to research more before jumping the gun...or do you have a bias against cops?

I just have a bias against authority and videos like this one only reinforce that bias.

So facts can't change that bias then?
 

Wheezer

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Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: nobodyknows
Originally posted by: Wheezer

oh, and OP.....might want to research more before jumping the gun...or do you have a bias against cops?

I just have a bias against authority and videos like this one only reinforce that bias.

So facts can't change that bias then?

silly spidey facts are for grownups......:p
 

jonks

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Originally posted by: nobodyknows
Originally posted by: Wheezer

oh, and OP.....might want to research more before jumping the gun...or do you have a bias against cops?

I just have a bias against authority and videos like this one only reinforce that bias.

Funny, this video merely reinforced my choice to not get stoned, then get violent, then give a cop someone else's ID, them mouth off to the cop and resist arrest in a drunken/drugged-out stupor.
 

nobodyknows

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Sep 28, 2008
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Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: nobodyknows
Originally posted by: Wheezer

oh, and OP.....might want to research more before jumping the gun...or do you have a bias against cops?

I just have a bias against authority and videos like this one only reinforce that bias.

So facts can't change that bias then?

What facts? They asked her if she was thinking of harming herself or anyone and she asked now or ever so they proceded to strip her?

 

nobodyknows

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Originally posted by: jonks
Originally posted by: nobodyknows
Originally posted by: Wheezer

oh, and OP.....might want to research more before jumping the gun...or do you have a bias against cops?

I just have a bias against authority and videos like this one only reinforce that bias.

Funny, this video merely reinforced my choice to not get stoned, then get violent, then give a cop someone else's ID, them mouth off to the cop and resist arrest in a drunken/drugged-out stupor.

In other words you beleieve mouthing off is OK, just don't dare do it to anybody in authority.


You got a brown streak on your nose. :p
 

Pulsar

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Originally posted by: nobodyknows
Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: nobodyknows
Originally posted by: Wheezer

oh, and OP.....might want to research more before jumping the gun...or do you have a bias against cops?

I just have a bias against authority and videos like this one only reinforce that bias.

So facts can't change that bias then?

What facts? They asked her if she was thinking of harming herself or anyone and she asked now or ever so they proceded to strip her?

Yes, they proceeded to strip her. Why? Because people have managed to hang themselves with bras, shirts, nylons, choke themselves by stuffing underwear down their throats and so-on.

You see, police have experience with insane, violent, doped up people who are drunk. I'd wager they have far more experience than you.
 

JKing106

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Originally posted by: Pulsar
Originally posted by: nobodyknows
Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: nobodyknows
Originally posted by: Wheezer

oh, and OP.....might want to research more before jumping the gun...or do you have a bias against cops?

I just have a bias against authority and videos like this one only reinforce that bias.

So facts can't change that bias then?

What facts? They asked her if she was thinking of harming herself or anyone and she asked now or ever so they proceded to strip her?

Yes, they proceeded to strip her. Why? Because people have managed to hang themselves with bras, shirts, nylons, choke themselves by stuffing underwear down their throats and so-on.

You see, police have experience with insane, violent, doped up people who are drunk. I'd wager they have far more experience than you.

Where is it stated that this woman was drunk or stoned?
 

Wheezer

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Originally posted by: nobodyknows
Originally posted by: jonks
Originally posted by: nobodyknows
Originally posted by: Wheezer

oh, and OP.....might want to research more before jumping the gun...or do you have a bias against cops?

I just have a bias against authority and videos like this one only reinforce that bias.

Funny, this video merely reinforced my choice to not get stoned, then get violent, then give a cop someone else's ID, them mouth off to the cop and resist arrest in a drunken/drugged-out stupor.

In other words you beleieve mouthing off is OK, just don't dare do it to anybody in authority.


You got a brown streak on your nose. :p

LOL...you're an idiot.....or 12....or both.

 

spidey07

No Lifer
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Originally posted by: JKing106

Where is it stated that this woman was drunk or stoned?

"During that criminal trial, evidence was produced that at the time of her arrest Steffey was under the influence of alcohol and medication and was not the victim of an assault.
Evidence showed that on that day, Steffey had assaulted her niece, who was six months pregnant, and that she had also attacked and choked her teenage nephew."

So she was drunk AND stoned. Drink a six pack and take two xanax and see if you act right.
 

nobodyknows

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Sep 28, 2008
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Originally posted by: Wheezer
Originally posted by: nobodyknows
Originally posted by: jonks
Originally posted by: nobodyknows
Originally posted by: Wheezer

oh, and OP.....might want to research more before jumping the gun...or do you have a bias against cops?

I just have a bias against authority and videos like this one only reinforce that bias.

Funny, this video merely reinforced my choice to not get stoned, then get violent, then give a cop someone else's ID, them mouth off to the cop and resist arrest in a drunken/drugged-out stupor.

In other words you beleieve mouthing off is OK, just don't dare do it to anybody in authority.


You got a brown streak on your nose. :p

LOL...you're an idiot.....or 12....or both.

Don't worry, you'll get used to the smell.
 

jonks

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Originally posted by: nobodyknows
Originally posted by: Wheezer
Originally posted by: nobodyknows
Originally posted by: jonks
Originally posted by: nobodyknows
Originally posted by: Wheezer

oh, and OP.....might want to research more before jumping the gun...or do you have a bias against cops?

I just have a bias against authority and videos like this one only reinforce that bias.

Funny, this video merely reinforced my choice to not get stoned, then get violent, then give a cop someone else's ID, them mouth off to the cop and resist arrest in a drunken/drugged-out stupor.

In other words you beleieve mouthing off is OK, just don't dare do it to anybody in authority.


You got a brown streak on your nose. :p

LOL...you're an idiot.....or 12....or both.

Don't worry, you'll get used to the smell.

People who spend most of their time with their head up their ass say that a lot.
 

nobodyknows

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Sep 28, 2008
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Originally posted by: Pulsar
Originally posted by: nobodyknows
Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: nobodyknows
Originally posted by: Wheezer

oh, and OP.....might want to research more before jumping the gun...or do you have a bias against cops?

I just have a bias against authority and videos like this one only reinforce that bias.

So facts can't change that bias then?

What facts? They asked her if she was thinking of harming herself or anyone and she asked now or ever so they proceded to strip her?

Yes, they proceeded to strip her. Why? Because people have managed to hang themselves with bras, shirts, nylons, choke themselves by stuffing underwear down their throats and so-on.

You see, police have experience with insane, violent, doped up people who are drunk. I'd wager they have far more experience than you.

Sorry, but where did she say she was planning to hang herself?
 

nobodyknows

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Sep 28, 2008
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Originally posted by: jonks
Originally posted by: nobodyknows
Originally posted by: Wheezer
Originally posted by: nobodyknows
Originally posted by: jonks
Originally posted by: nobodyknows
Originally posted by: Wheezer

oh, and OP.....might want to research more before jumping the gun...or do you have a bias against cops?

I just have a bias against authority and videos like this one only reinforce that bias.

Funny, this video merely reinforced my choice to not get stoned, then get violent, then give a cop someone else's ID, them mouth off to the cop and resist arrest in a drunken/drugged-out stupor.

In other words you beleieve mouthing off is OK, just don't dare do it to anybody in authority.


You got a brown streak on your nose. :p

LOL...you're an idiot.....or 12....or both.

Don't worry, you'll get used to the smell.

People who spend most of their time with their head up their ass say that a lot.

Are you an expert at that too?
 

wirelessenabled

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Feb 5, 2001
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Originally posted by: Wheezer
pretty sure this is a repost......

here is a more recent follow up:

http://www.the-review.com/news/article/4515802


CANTON " A lawsuit claiming defamation and invasion of privacy was filed Thursday in Stark County Common Pleas Court against a Cleveland television station and its owners.
The plaintiffs are six Stark County sheriff's deputies " Kristin Fenstemaker, Laura Rodgers, Tony Gayles, Richard T. Gurlea Jr., Andrea Mays and Brian Michaels " whom the lawsuit states suffered humiliation, severe emotional distress, disrepute in the community, and loss of wages and employment.

The suit stems from investigations and news stories by WKYC TV Inc. and its reporter which "portrayed the deputies as abusing their power, abusing an inmate and wrongfully causing harm to an inmate" " Hope Steffey of Salem.

Specifically named are news reporter Tom Meyer of WKYC TV; Gannett Company Inc., doing business as WKYC TV Inc. at 1333 Lakeside Ave. in Cleveland; and Gannett Satellite Information Network International, c/o CT Corporation at 1300 E. Ninth St., Cleveland. Also named as defendants are three people working for a Channel 3 news program, "The Investigator," whose "true names and addresses are currently unknown."

According to the lawsuit, on Oct. 20, 2006, officers of the Stark County Sheriff's Department arrested Hope Steffey for disorderly conduct. At the time of the arrest, Steffey was under the influence of alcohol and psychtropic medications (medication capable of affecting the mind, emotions and behavior).

Steffey was physically and verbally abusive toward arresting officer Gurlea and continued that abuse toward officers while in Stark County Jail.

While at the jail, Steffey indicated suicidal intentions to a screening nurse and a doctor recommended she be placed, for her own safety, in a holding cell without any clothing, the lawsuit states. Deputies Fenstemaker, Rodgers, Gayles, Mays, and Michaels followed those instructions.

According to the lawsuit, during the evening of Jan. 31, 2007, WKYC TV, with Meyer as reporter, aired a news story billed as an investigative report, relating Steffey's experience while under arrest at Stark County Jail, which showed her as an "innocent victim of assault who called police for help."

The program showed edited portions of footage from the jail facility and portrayed the sheriff's department as conducting a "violent strip search" of Steffey "akin to rape."
The voices and faces of Fenstemaker, Rodgers, Gayles, Mays and Michaels were included in that program.

The suit claims the program "cast the events in such a way as to suggest that Steffey had been left alone for an extended time in a holding cell with two male deputies " Gayles and Michaels " raising questions of sexual abuse."

It also suggests that Steffey was forced to appear at booking with nothing on except a short vest that came down to her waist, which was "false and misleading."

"At no time prior to airing the program did defendants attempt to contact the Stark County Sheriff's Office to determine why Steffey was placed in a jail cell, why her clothes were removed, other than a call the day that program aired asking for comments on Steffey's lawsuit against the sheriff's office that was pending in federal court and another call asking for information for an unspecified story on strip searches," the suit states.

Meyers and Gannett, the suit claims, continued misleading portrayals of events at the Stark County Jail, including playing selected footage from the jail and continually referring to the incident as a "strip search" or "illegal strip search," which, if true, would amount to felony behavior on the part of the plaintiffs.

In other programs, individuals, including a psychologist, a prison worker, and the Cuyahoga County sheriff, were shown edited footage and asked questions about a "strip search," but were not given background information of the Steffey incident "to reach an informed opinion."

The programming resulted in death threats and hate mail to the Stark County Jail, the plaintiffs and the Stark County Sheriff's Office and one program showed Fenstemaker's nametag displayed on her clothing, resulting in Fenstemaker being forced to resign from her job."

On June 8, 2007, Steffey was tried and convicted by an Alliance Municipal Court jury of disorderly conduct and resisting arrest for events leading up to her arrest in October 2006.

During that criminal trial, evidence was produced that at the time of her arrest Steffey was under the influence of alcohol and medication and was not the victim of an assault.
Evidence showed that on that day, Steffey had assaulted her niece, who was six months pregnant, and that she had also attacked and choked her teenage nephew.


Compensatory damages (in excess of $25,000), punitive damages, costs, attorney fees and interest are sought. The lawsuit was filed by Allen Schulman Jr. of Allen Schulman & Associates and attorney Brian L. Zimmerman, both of Canton, who have requested court mediation.

definitely more to it....sounds like a reporter was chomping at the bit to make his bones and got a little overzealous....go figure.

bitch got what she deserved.

oh, and OP.....might want to research more before jumping the gun...or do you have a bias against cops?

I have a bias against cops:shocked:

One of the things that keeps our society free. Cops are granted extraordinary powers, therefore must face extraordinary scrutiny. If cops aren't held to a higher standard then we have a totalitarian state.
 

ranmaniac

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This will never go to trial, it will most likely be settled with non-disclosure agreements etc.
 

WelshBloke

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Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: NeoV
I don't care what minor crimes she committed, I don't see anything there that warrants her sitting naked in a jail cell for 6 hours

She was on suicide watch, that's totally normal.

That may be what you do in the US all the time but its not totally normal.



 

spidey07

No Lifer
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Originally posted by: WelshBloke
Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: NeoV
I don't care what minor crimes she committed, I don't see anything there that warrants her sitting naked in a jail cell for 6 hours

She was on suicide watch, that's totally normal.

That may be what you do in the US all the time but its not totally normal.

It is when 10s of thousands of people have committed suicide in custody and then the family sues and wins because the facility allowed them access to things they used to kill themselves. Like underwear.
 

WelshBloke

Lifer
Jan 12, 2005
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Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: WelshBloke
Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: NeoV
I don't care what minor crimes she committed, I don't see anything there that warrants her sitting naked in a jail cell for 6 hours

She was on suicide watch, that's totally normal.

That may be what you do in the US all the time but its not totally normal.

It is when 10s of thousands of people have committed suicide in custody and then the family sues and wins because the facility allowed them access to things they used to kill themselves. Like underwear.

Its called suicide watch; theres a clue in the title.

Its not called suicide strip then naked, stick them in a cell and ignore them.

And if they are at that much risk that they need a padded cell and stripping then they need more than a couple of dumbass sheriffs looking after them.
 

Pulsar

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Mar 3, 2003
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Originally posted by: WelshBloke
Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: WelshBloke
Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: NeoV
I don't care what minor crimes she committed, I don't see anything there that warrants her sitting naked in a jail cell for 6 hours

She was on suicide watch, that's totally normal.

That may be what you do in the US all the time but its not totally normal.

It is when 10s of thousands of people have committed suicide in custody and then the family sues and wins because the facility allowed them access to things they used to kill themselves. Like underwear.

Its called suicide watch; theres a clue in the title.

Its not called suicide strip then naked, stick them in a cell and ignore them.

And if they are at that much risk that they need a padded cell and stripping then they need more than a couple of dumbass sheriffs looking after them.

You clearly have no concept of how many people go through these places on a nightly basis. There aren't enough cops in the country to 'WATCH' all the crazies going through a station in a place like New York, Miami, or LA.