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Ohio State University - Car and Knife Attack

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michal1980 said:
didnt Kaine jumb on trump for tweeting early after the florida attack? Then he is so blinded by his hate of guns and the 2nd amendment he does exactly what he accused trump of doing?
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I don't think any real Politician jumped on guns but maybe I'm wrong. Some local guys may have.
 
Sheik Yerbouti said:
YEA! Only superior intellects like drumpf should be able to send errant, inane tweets!
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So as long as you have a prominent figure on the other side to point at your guy doing it, it's OK? At some point you people are going to have to ask more of your side than just being like the others only with a different letter after the name.
 
SNC said:
So as long as you have a prominent figure on the other side to point at your guy doing it, it's OK? At some point you people are going to have to ask more of your side than just being like the others only with a different letter after the name.
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Here's what happened, from what I was able to gleam from news reports. Kaine reacted with his first tweet based upon information available at the time, then when that information was updated, he subsequently updated his tweet to reflect that.
drumpf on the other hand is completely incapable of self correction, as he never, ever, under any circumstances makes mistakes, save for wife 1, and wife 2...
So it's not just 'well your guy does it too' it's 'your guy does, it, keeps doing it, is unwilling to own up to his stupidity, and is the fucking president elect'
 
Sheik Yerbouti said:
Here's what happened, from what I was able to gleam from news reports. Kaine reacted with his first tweet based upon information available at the time, then when that information was updated, he subsequently updated his tweet to reflect that.
drumpf on the other hand is completely incapable of self correction, as he never, ever, under any circumstances makes mistakes, save for wife 1, and wife 2...
So it's not just 'well your guy does it too' it's 'your guy does, it, keeps doing it, is unwilling to own up to his stupidity, and is the fucking president elect'
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That is not what you said:

Sheik Yerbouti said:
YEA! Only superior intellects like drumpf should be able to send errant, inane tweets!
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That was the entirety of your post, nothing about your guy being able to self correct (like you just did) or his willingness to do so. If there is a secret decoder ring that converted your first post into your reply to my question, I am missing that from my collection.
 
SNC said:
That is not what you said:



That was the entirety of your post, nothing about your guy being able to self correct (like you just did) or his willingness to do so. If there is a secret decoder ring that converted your first post into your reply to my question, I am missing that from my collection.
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well there is, and it's super secret, it's called....

google
 
Sheik Yerbouti said:
well there is, and it's super secret, it's called....

google
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Why would I search for google to figure out that you meant more than what you typed. You ended up reversing your first post where you were pretty much OK with Kain making an errant post because someone on the other side does, to saying that you're OK with it so long as he retracts it. Google would not help me discern your flop or qualification, only you can do that.
 
SNC said:
Why would I search for google to figure out that you meant more than what you typed. You ended up reversing your first post where you were pretty much OK with Kain making an errant post because someone on the other side does, to saying that you're OK with it so long as he retracts it. Google would not help me discern your flop or qualification, only you can do that.
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sorry, how was I ok with kaine making an errant post, by saying it's totally ok for drumpf to do that? no, no no. And where exactly did kaine ask to ban guns, are you not on conner for that because of your political affiliation or??
"Deeply saddened by the senseless act of gun violence at Ohio State this morning. Praying for the injured and the entire Buckeye community"
So... where does he ask to ban guns in that heartfelt sentiment?
 
michal1980 said:
How am I hack?

Did Kaine jump on the anti-gun band wagon before he knew the facts or not?

We all know he did, and there is a reason for it, like most on the left he is an anti-gun nutter.
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He also sent out a correction. Still waiting for you to correct just about every post you've ever made here.
 
michal1980 said:
How am I hack?

Did Kaine jump on the anti-gun band wagon before he knew the facts or not?

We all know he did, and there is a reason for it, like most on the left he is an anti-gun nutter.
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fucktard, how does this statement threaten to take your precious, precious guns away?
"Deeply saddened by the senseless act of gun violence at Ohio State this morning. Praying for the injured and the entire Buckeye community"
do tell...
 
Sheik Yerbouti said:
fucktard, how does this statement threaten to take your precious, precious guns away?
"Deeply saddened by the senseless act of gun violence at Ohio State this morning. Praying for the injured and the entire Buckeye community"
do tell...
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When he put "gun" in the "senseless act of gun violence" I figured out what he was going for.

If he had stated "senseless act of violence" or "senseless act of knife violence" or "senseless act of car violence". There was no "senseless act of gun violence" so his statement indicates his point.

That is to let no "senseless act of violence" go to waste "gun" related or not . If it can always be used to further an agenda. He could have easily waited till more was known or left out the "gun" part. He chose not to.


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Sheik Yerbouti said:
fucktard, how does this statement threaten to take your precious, precious guns away?
"Deeply saddened by the senseless act of gun violence at Ohio State this morning. Praying for the injured and the entire Buckeye community"
do tell...
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And you claim the right uses dog whistles. Yet your deaf to the ones he uses.

Why did he feel the need to mention gun violence in his post? Even before he knew the facts.

Come on, if you are so smart you know why he put it the way he did. Dont play stupid now.
 
michal1980 said:
And you claim the right uses dog whistles. Yet your deaf to the ones he uses.

Why did he feel the need to mention gun violence in his post? Even before he knew the facts.

Come on, if you are so smart you know why he put it the way he did. Dont play stupid now.
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what did the news report the incident as when it was breaking?
 
In another thread I said I was much more concerned about the effect of Trump's mongering on Muslims already in the US than I was about new immigration/refugees. That already involves a lot of scrutiny and monitoring post-immigration. On the other hand, there are plenty of people in this country who have the capacity for violence combined with a conflicted and shaky self-image. Harsh separatism, hate speech, and discrimination are the fuel for these acts.

In other words, if you take a dog, chances are they are not violent. If you take 1000 dogs, chances are some would be violent if provoked. If you take 1000 dogs and abuse them, someone's gonna get bit.
 
michal1980 said:
didnt Kaine jumb on trump for tweeting early after the florida attack? Then he is so blinded by his hate of guns and the 2nd amendment he does exactly what he accused trump of doing?
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Whenever we have these types of events that are covered by mass media, we need to question who will it benefit?

When the supposed Florida shooting happened, who did it benefit?

Does it benefit the Muslim community by supposedly killing all those evil gays?
Does it benefit the media by giving them another story to cover?
Does it benefit the government to talk about the evil guns?

It's strange how we are having all these mass shootings, mass knife attacks, mass truck attacks, etc.
 
interchange said:
In another thread I said I was much more concerned about the effect of Trump's mongering on Muslims already in the US than I was about new immigration/refugees. That already involves a lot of scrutiny and monitoring post-immigration. On the other hand, there are plenty of people in this country who have the capacity for violence combined with a conflicted and shaky self-image. Harsh separatism, hate speech, and discrimination are the fuel for these acts.

In other words, if you take a dog, chances are they are not violent. If you take 1000 dogs, chances are some would be violent if provoked. If you take 1000 dogs and abuse them, someone's gonna get bit.
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It is curious how the world somehow, someway just magically transformed after 9/11.

Where were the evil Muslims committing all these atrocities before 9/11? Did that event change things so drastically and alter people's mindset? If so, the cave dwellers that supposedly carried out the attacks must wield a lot of power. I mean, they just transformed these Muslims from law abiding citizens to people who are constantly plotting attacks against ONLY soft targets (also, these Muslims are usually always killed or commit suicide so we don't really know the full details).

By the way, Trump is simply playing on the ignorance and hatred of his followers. These people don't care about peace, security or justice. They want the "other" peoples of the world to be treated in certain fashion. Just look at how they treated Obama for the last 8 years. With venom and contempt.
 
raildogg said:
It is curious how the world somehow, someway just magically transformed after 9/11.

Where were the evil Muslims committing all these atrocities before 9/11? Did that event change things so drastically and alter people's mindset? If so, the cave dwellers that supposedly carried out the attacks must wield a lot of power. I mean, they just transformed these Muslims from law abiding citizens to people who are constantly plotting attacks against ONLY soft targets (also, these Muslims are usually always killed or commit suicide so we don't really know the full details).

By the way, Trump is simply playing on the ignorance and hatred of his followers. These people don't care about peace, security or justice. They want the "other" peoples of the world to be treated in certain fashion. Just look at how they treated Obama for the last 8 years. With venom and contempt.
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A group of scientists placed five monkeys in a cage, and in the middle, a ladder with bananas on top.

Every time a monkey went up the ladder, the scientists soaked the rest of the monkeys with cold water.

After a while, every time a monkey would start up the ladder, the others would pull it down and beat it up.

After a time, no monkey would dare try climbing the ladder, no matter how great the temptation.

The scientists then decided to replace one of the monkeys. The first thing this new monkey did was start to climb the ladder. Immediately, the others pulled him down and beat him up.

After several beatings, the new monkey learned never to go up the ladder, even though there was no evident reason not to, aside from the beatings.

The second monkey was substituted and the same occurred. The first monkey participated in the beating of the second monkey. A third monkey was changed and the same was repeated. The fourth monkey was changed, resulting in the same, before the fifth was finally replaced as well.

What was left was a group of five monkeys that – without ever having received a cold shower – continued to beat up any monkey who attempted to climb the ladder.

If it was possible to ask the monkeys why they beat up on all those who attempted to climb the ladder, their most likely answer would be “I don’t know. It’s just how things are done around here.”

Does that sound at all familiar?
 
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