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Ohio man charge for filming crash victims instead of helping them.

Kids were dumbasses, there should be no obligation for a person to help them. The only crime he apparently committed was by entering a crime scene. If the kid surviving is the driver, hopefully he'll be charged too.
 
HamburgerBoy said:
Kids were dumbasses, there should be no obligation for a person to help them. The only crime he apparently committed was by entering a crime scene. If the kid surviving is the driver, hopefully he'll be charged too.
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I don't disagree, but he should have just quietly left the scene and not filmed it. Maybe the circumstance means you wouldn't want to help, but on a greater scale, people are getting really bad about just pulling their phones out and watching so they can post it on FB rather than doing what needs done.
 
At first I was going to be like "there aren't Good Samaritan laws in a lot of places, this is bullshit" then I read the article that said he actually opened the door to get a better view.

Dude's a piece of shit that should be thrown in prison.
 
HamburgerBoy said:
Kids were dumbasses, there should be no obligation for a person to help them. The only crime he apparently committed was by entering a crime scene. If the kid surviving is the driver, hopefully he'll be charged too.
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Right, a cheap technicality that will probably never fly in court. He is under no obligation to help or to refrain from laughing at the dumbasses. DA has a hissy fit and can't charge him with an actual crime, so they use criminal trespass which is a crock of shit. Sending a hell of a message, if you want to laugh at dumbasses and not help them, just do it from a respectful distance and you're covered. Woohoo!! Major victory for law and order.
 
ImpulsE69 said:
I don't disagree, but he should have just quietly left the scene and not filmed it. Maybe the circumstance means you wouldn't want to help, but on a greater scale, people are getting really bad about just pulling their phones out and watching so they can post it on FB rather than doing what needs done.
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Had he not touched the car and stayed a sufficient distance so as to not interfere with volunteers, police, paramedics, etc, what harm would be committed? Documenting accidents is a perfectly valid action to take, and if selling video tapes of them should be illegal, so should the news stations that routinely exploit accidents/crimes for financial gain.
 
JulesMaximus said:
While it was a dick move there isn't really any crime that was committed (I guess that misdemeanor was the only thing they could come up with). How can you charge someone for NOT helping? Not everyone is capable of assisting in emergency situations.
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It's not that he didn't help...it's that he entered the car to get a better look/video.
 
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drebo said:
At first I was going to be like "there aren't Good Samaritan laws in a lot of places, this is bullshit" then I read the article that said he actually opened the door to get a better view.

Dude's a piece of shit that should be thrown in prison.
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Wasn't convinced until I read what you wrote.

And yes, I thought of Seinfeld too.
 
ImpulsE69 said:
It's about time.

http://news.yahoo.com/ohio-police-charge-man-filmed-didnt-aid-teens-220324527.html#

In my opinion the penalty isn't nearly enough.
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I'm going to play a little devil's advocate here:

I know it's all nice to help people out, it's what a good samaritan does. But what law says you must help people out?

If anything, I have seen multiple cases where after saving/helping someone, the person they were saving turns around and tries to sue them. There is a reason why business owners tell employees not to go after people, etc...

The guy is fucking stupid, no question though.
 
His mistake was entering the vehicle. Had he just stood on the side of the road I doubt he would of been charged. If you dont know wat you are doing in a situation like that then you shouldnt do anything. If someone has a broken neck and a brace isnt placed on it before movement you can do SERIOUS injury.
 
drebo said:
It's not that he didn't help...it's that he entered the car to get a better look/video.
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Yea, that is the real part of it, but I think it was wrong to begin with, and entering was just rubbing it in - but it was really the only 'illegal' thing he did (and that might be questionable?)
 
FFS, read the article

its nothing like Seinfeld and he's not directly in trouble for filming and/or not helping, he's being charged for entering/tampering with what they are calling a crime scene, and its because he did so without intent to help (although even good intentions can get you in trouble if you try and help someone beyond your means and end up only making the situation worse)

Pelton committed a crime only when he entered the car without permission, Sivert said. If convicted, he faces a maximum of 30 days in jail and a $250 fine.

“We searched to try to find anything to charge him with,” Sivert said. “It is not a crime to stick a camera where a kid is dying or try to sell it.”
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s0me0nesmind1 said:
I'm going to play a little devil's advocate here:

I know it's all nice to help people out, it's what a good samaritan does. But what law says you must help people out?

If anything, I have seen multiple cases where after saving/helping someone, the person they were saving turns around and tries to sue them. There is a reason why business owners tell employees not to go after people, etc...
ugh.
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You aren't wrong. People are assholes on both sides of the equation. Damned if you do damned if you don't.
 
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