Oh nvidia, merge with AMD!

[91TTZ]

Originally posted by: So

Originally posted by: 91TTZ


But it's so large and unwieldy that I have trouble pointing it in any direction. Do you have a forklift I can borrow?

here ya go

LOL, good one...

 

[Sunner]

Originally posted by: sm8000

Originally posted by: Malladine

Originally posted by: sm8000
I wouldn't be surprised if nVidia starting making their own CPUs. Look at their transistor count...

Isn't there a huge difference between CPUs and GPUs?

There is a difference, yes.


What's your point?

That designing a general prupose MPU is vastly more time consuming and expensive than manufacturing a GPU?

 

[Malladine]

Originally posted by: Sunner

Originally posted by: sm8000

Originally posted by: Malladine

Originally posted by: sm8000
I wouldn't be surprised if nVidia starting making their own CPUs. Look at their transistor count...

Isn't there a huge difference between CPUs and GPUs?

There is a difference, yes.


What's your point?

That designing a general prupose MPU is vastly more time consuming and expensive than manufacturing a GPU?

:thumbsup:

 

[So]

Originally posted by: Sunner

Originally posted by: sm8000

Originally posted by: Malladine

Originally posted by: sm8000
I wouldn't be surprised if nVidia starting making their own CPUs. Look at their transistor count...

Isn't there a huge difference between CPUs and GPUs?

There is a difference, yes.


What's your point?

That designing a general prupose MPU is vastly more time consuming and expensive than manufacturing a GPU?

I don't know, while they are defintiely optimized for different tasks, I think that GPUs are nearly as complex as CPUs at this point.

 

[SonicIce]

What are you guys talking about? Merges suck for consumers. It destroys competition and competition is what keeps prices low.

 

[So]

Originally posted by: SonicIce
What are you guys talking about? Merges suck for consumers. It destroys competition and competition is what keeps prices low.

Horizontal mergers do. Vertical mergers can preserve competition, in most cases, since the company is not bigger in any given market, but can share resources.

 

[Codewiz]

Originally posted by: SonicIce
What are you guys talking about? Merges suck for consumers. It destroys competition and competition is what keeps prices low.

LOL I don't see low prices in the graphics department.

 

[Sunner]

Originally posted by: So

Originally posted by: Sunner
That designing a general prupose MPU is vastly more time consuming and expensive than manufacturing a GPU?

I don't know, while they are defintiely optimized for different tasks, I think that GPUs are nearly as complex as CPUs at this point.

While they may have eclipsed general purpose MPU's in terms of transistor count, the development cycles are far longer for GP MPU's.
Also, the design of GPU's tend to involve lots and lots of automation, while there's lots and lots of "hand tuning" going into GP MPU's.

 

[RaynorWolfcastle]

Originally posted by: So
I don't know, while they are defintiely optimized for different tasks, I think that GPUs are nearly as complex as CPUs at this point.

GPUs are still far simpler than CPUs in term of design complexity. GPUs are essentially specialized DSP chips and are designed very differently from CPUs. CPUs are completely custom chips from the transistor level up, there is a LOT of hand optimization and layout because it is imperative that they hit high operating frequencies. GPUs, on the other hand use the transistor technology developped by other companies (TSMC, UMC, etc) and use a lot more automated tools. They essentially design one pixel pipe then copy and paste it as needed using automatic layout tools.

This isn't to say that GPUs aren't complex, because they are, only that CPUs are much more complex even if they have a lower transistor count. Why do you think you see completely revamped GPU architectures every 18 months or so whereas it takes several years between CPUs that have significant changes?

 

[monzi]

Nvidia with AMD
ATI with Intel.


Let the competition begin.

-Monzi

EDIT: a problem I forsee, is that if you want intel you will be forced to buy ATI for speed, compatibility, and max performence; same goes for visa-versa.

-monzi 2

 

[iwantanewcomputer]

i think they'd be too afraid of ati merging/teaming up with intel. then amd system sales would be hurt by losing people who want ati cards and nvidia would lose sales in intel systems.

 

[dbk]

lol funny comments on that page...AMDEL..

 

[eLiu]

Originally posted by: skace

Originally posted by: Horus
I'd rather see ATi merge with AMD...ATi makes better products.

No way, Nvidia brings the NForce to the table which goes above and beyond just video cards.

Isn't ATI working on a similar product?

 

[Steve]

Originally posted by: Sunner

Originally posted by: sm8000

Originally posted by: Malladine

Originally posted by: sm8000
I wouldn't be surprised if nVidia starting making their own CPUs. Look at their transistor count...

Isn't there a huge difference between CPUs and GPUs?

There is a difference, yes.

What's your point?

That designing a general prupose MPU is vastly more time consuming and expensive than manufacturing a GPU?

True. What I said is what I heard from a friend who claims a little birdie told him. Of course this was many months ago and knowing my friend it could be shens...but hey, you never know

 

[BillyBobJoel71]

302 million transistors? damn. athlon fx 55 has liek 105, and the a64 has 65.8! the best semiconductor corporations merging into one... wow... that would screw ATI.

 

[intogamer]

I see a good future for nVIDA... and AMD(pwning intel)

 

[BillyBobJoel71]

Currently, intel is pretty much a brick wall to AMD in the market. i wonder if intel won't buy AMD or something... the average consumer does not know there is an option from 'Pentium' when buying a computer.