Oh boy! Biden thinks he could have beaten Trump! But THEN what?

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In the same interview he questioned if he could make it another four years in the job.
 

Pens1566

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Did he not hear himself on the debate? But he did at least wonder if he could do the job until he was 86.


We can never really know for sure. But there is data/analysis showing the loss was due to demo shifts that can be logically explained by the candidate differences. Namely, huge drops across all male groups and little/no increase in female/AA vote.
 

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We can never really know for sure. But there is data/analysis showing the loss was due to demo shifts that can be logically explained by the candidate differences. Namely, huge drops across all male groups and little/no increase in female/AA vote.
I still don’t get how so many people wanted Trump out in 2020 but not in 2024.
 
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Basically. Trump was about the only world leader who didn't get a rally effect from at least being perceived to handle COVID well. Which given his public displays in 2020 is not exactly a surprise. People got tired of the Trump Show and wanted to change the channel.
 
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But it was way more than just Covid. He was and is basically a dangerous loose cannon or wrecking ball. I guess that is what a lot of people wanted, believe it or not.
 
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Jaskalas

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I still don’t get how so many people wanted Trump out in 2020 but not in 2024.
You must be rather insulated from the news, or conservatives in general. For they screech all the time on the subjects to scare voters and cast blame.

Immigration, crime, inflation.
Did you know Biden personally made everything in your life more expensive? Did you know he stole money from you and gave it to Ukraine? Did you know immigrants are eating your dogs and cats?

If not, you still don't know why Americans voted Trump. It's because of propaganda, and we let it run free.
 

Zorba

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You must be rather insulated from the news, or conservatives in general. For they screech all the time on the subjects to scare voters and cast blame.

Immigration, crime, inflation.
Did you know Biden personally made everything in your life more expensive? Did you know he stole money from you and gave it to Ukraine? Did you know immigrants are eating your dogs and cats?

If not, you still don't know why Americans voted Trump. It's because of propaganda, and we let it run free.
It's amazing the only time I hear conservatives talking about helping the poor it's in relation to the money going to Ukraine.

Just like the only time they care about recycling is when talking about windmill blades, EV batteries, and solar panels.
 
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It's amazing the only time I hear conservatives talking about helping the poor it's in relation to the money going to Ukraine.
Well, perhaps the poor would be well served if we just started sending them APCs and whatnot. I hope Musk and Bezos have hardened compounds.
 
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People like to throw around the word evil. Hasn't America become evil. Aren't American cultural values contaminating the world. Isn't capitalism a major contributor to mental illness world wide. Isn't corporate mentality leading to environmental catastrophe? Isn't it time for America to disappear off the world stage? Isn't America's greatest product imbecility? Without heart Western Culture is a disease. Every disease drives a need for a cure. The contemptuous deserve contempt, they say.

But then, who has the time much less the capacity to care. Of what value is a beacon of light in a world where everybody has their own GPS.
 

brycejones

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Polling shows exactly that. Approval of his presidency shot up dramatically from right when he left office to right before the election. Despite things dramatically improving. It's mental.
Yeah notice he didn’t talk about invading Panama, Greenland, or Canada during the campaign. It’s frightening to say it but he was way more disciplined during the campaign and I thought he was a shit show then.
 
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MrSquished

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Shit !

I Agree with you. Hell must be truly frozen over completely.
You agree with it because you are a shitty right winger that thinks Biden is a communist traitor and you are glad your party took over; I am saying it because I feel Biden made various decisions that let your fucked up horrific party take over again.

Two very different value systems. As in, you have none.
 
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dainthomas

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Yeah notice he didn’t talk about invading Panama, Greenland, or Canada during the campaign. It’s frightening to say it but he was way more disciplined during the campaign and I thought he was shit show then.

Although things like "THEY'RE EATING THE DOGS!! THEY'RE EATING THE CATS!!!" didn't even move the needle, so maybe it wouldn't have mattered.