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I don't agree. There are two *main* types of skinny people. Those that watch their diets and eat well, and those that are malnourished/under eat. These are actually the *majority* of skinny people. These are people that simply eat to survive and nothing more. They are essentially starving themselves and their energy and health levels show it. (This group is not to be confused with eating disorders).
You do have your genetic freaks with the metabolism of a blast furnace that can get away with anything, but they are the minority.
I count my calories almost down to a science. I know the nutritional/calorie contents of many meals/foods and take notice of what others eat. There are a lot of very poor eating habits out there on both sides of the scale. Diet plays a huge part in being able to gain, shed off and keep off the pounds.
Originally posted by: leftyman
Originally posted by: Amused
No, that's give me Big Macs, or give me death.
the end result is the same
where are the 200 year old thin people ?
Amused
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Originally posted by: leftyman
Originally posted by: Amused
No, that's give me Big Macs, or give me death.
the end result is the same
Naw. Burgers in moderation can easily be part of a healthy diet.
The main problem people have with diets in general is the black and white attitude they have about foods.
MODERATION not deprivation is the key to healthy eating.
I eat burgers a couple times a week... and I dare say I'm in excellent health.
I think the reason people have gotten so fat has far less to do with the actual FOODS they eat than people think. The fact is, people were eating fast foods, cookies, and cakes long before a large percentage of people became overweight and unhealthy.
The real reason is less activity. Kids 50 years ago hardly spent any of their free time inside, they were always out playing and running around. Their parents had jobs that often required alot of physical work too, whether it was the husband working in some sort of industry or the wife doing alot of work around the house.
Today, kids spend most of their time inside playing video games or on the computer. For the most part, their parents spend their day in the office behind a computer screen. Physical activity has gone from being a part of everyone's daily life to something that can be easily ignored and passed over.
This is why people have gotten fat, not because we're eating cupcakes and hamburgers, but because we have changed the way we live so much - from a primarily active and physical lifestyle to spending our days mostly dormant. The other thing we've done is increase our consumption of sugary drinks and sodas. 50 years ago milk or water was the drink of choice, now it's ice tea or soda. The calories in those drinks along with the other things in them really add up.
The real reason is less activity. Kids 50 years ago hardly spent any of their free time inside, they were always out playing and running around. Their parents had jobs that often required alot of physical work too, whether it was the husband working in some sort of industry or the wife doing alot of work around the house.
Today, kids spend most of their time inside playing video games or on the computer. For the most part, their parents spend their day in the office behind a computer screen. Physical activity has gone from being a part of everyone's daily life to something that can be easily ignored and passed over.
This is why people have gotten fat, not because we're eating cupcakes and hamburgers, but because we have changed the way we live so much - from a primarily active and physical lifestyle to spending our days mostly dormant. The other thing we've done is increase our consumption of sugary drinks and sodas. 50 years ago milk or water was the drink of choice, now it's ice tea or soda. The calories in those drinks along with the other things in them really add up.
Amused
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Sorry, but in my 40 years of life on this earth, I can say without a doubt that of all the skinny people I knew that were never fat, NONE watched their diet. Not a single one. The only skinny people I knew that watched their diets were formally fat people who had to diet to get skinny.
I was one of them. I was stick thin all my life until my mid 30s when I gained 30 or so lbs around my waist. I NEVER watched my diet and ate like a horse. All the skinny kids I grew up with were the same. In fact, when I grew up, kids didn't go on diets and the first low fat diet craze was just starting among adults. NO ONE watched what they ate. They all just ate what they wanted.
Funny how the diet craze PRECEDED the obesity epidemic by about a decade.
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Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: leftyman
Originally posted by: Amused
No, that's give me Big Macs, or give me death.
the end result is the same
Naw. Burgers in moderation can easily be part of a healthy diet.
The main problem people have with diets in general is the black and white attitude they have about foods.
MODERATION not deprivation is the key to healthy eating.
I eat burgers a couple times a week... and I dare say I'm in excellent health.
along with physical activity
Amused
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Originally posted by: leftyman
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: leftyman
Originally posted by: Amused
No, that's give me Big Macs, or give me death.
the end result is the same
Naw. Burgers in moderation can easily be part of a healthy diet.
The main problem people have with diets in general is the black and white attitude they have about foods.
MODERATION not deprivation is the key to healthy eating.
I eat burgers a couple times a week... and I dare say I'm in excellent health.
along with physical activity
Absolutely.
The only true correlations with the obesity epidemic:
1 The growth in popularity of cable/sat TV, the Internet, and home video games.
2. The growth of the service industry. More and more people are having common chores done by outside help. Yard work, car washes, house cleaning etc.
3. More and more sedentary jobs.
4. The explosion in the snack food market because the one thing people tend to do when sitting around all day is munch.
moshquerade
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that's another contributing factor.
i think schools should have mandatory wellness/fitness classes to teach kids how to maintain a healthy weight and lifestyle.
1. Large movement of macronutrients to processed carbs. This increases hunger and encourages overeating.
2. Dietary fat and dietary cholesterol phobia.
3. Removal of whole fruits and vegetables from common diet.
4. Lack of activity
5. People that genetically are more prone to the above
6. Soy additives in everything. Soy protein encourages muscle breakdown because of genistein and other estrogens it has. Less muscle => less energy/metabolism. (this is more recent, so may not be anything significant...yet).
2. Dietary fat and dietary cholesterol phobia.
3. Removal of whole fruits and vegetables from common diet.
4. Lack of activity
5. People that genetically are more prone to the above
6. Soy additives in everything. Soy protein encourages muscle breakdown because of genistein and other estrogens it has. Less muscle => less energy/metabolism. (this is more recent, so may not be anything significant...yet).
JulesMaximus
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Because they eat more than they need and they don't exercise.
A friend of mine (and riding buddy) had over 1000 calories at lunch time yesterday but this was after we did an 18 mile ride. He's a bike racer though so he eats constantly yet he's the most fit guy I've ever seen.
A friend of mine (and riding buddy) had over 1000 calories at lunch time yesterday but this was after we did an 18 mile ride. He's a bike racer though so he eats constantly yet he's the most fit guy I've ever seen.
zinfamous
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count me in the minority then. while I certainly don't go out of my way to starve myself, I do tend to forget meals from time to time. However, I drink enough beer and eat enough pasta and steak to sport a Wellesian gut....but I sure as sh1t don't have one. Perhaps the fact that I haven't set foot into McDonald's in over 10 years, I don't like the taste of soda, and I'm not fond of desert has something to do with it too.....
It seems like some people (I'm not saying very many) in this thread don't understand how weight is lost or gain. So for those who don't know it is essentially all about calories. Consume more calories than you burn you gain weight, burn more and you lose weight.
That being said, perhaps some people have a genetic propensity to burn more calories while they sit around and do nothing while others have a natural propensity to conserve energy and calories. I think that is the only role genetics plays in this and for some or many it may be a big factor. I have a theory that at some point down the line we will adapt to the fact that there is always food in abundance and our bodies will stop being inclined to conserve calories, but that is just what I think.
That being said, perhaps some people have a genetic propensity to burn more calories while they sit around and do nothing while others have a natural propensity to conserve energy and calories. I think that is the only role genetics plays in this and for some or many it may be a big factor. I have a theory that at some point down the line we will adapt to the fact that there is always food in abundance and our bodies will stop being inclined to conserve calories, but that is just what I think.
TecHNooB
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Here's how you get fat. I dunno what you skinny people call eating a lot. Here's my diet one summer. I would basically eat 8x times a day of one of these meal choices:
2x Chicken Bake
25++ Chicken Wings or Hot Wings
13+ Toquitoes
2x Cheese Burgers
2x Quesadilla
Frozen French Fries
25++ Jalapeno Poppers
I was skinny before that summer.. so you can guess what happened ;/ I don't eat nearly as much anymore but back in the day, a meal wasn't a meal until I was full and ready to keel over from maxxing out. I'm on the fit route now tho so its all good
Bet none of you skinnnies can top my diet
2x Chicken Bake
25++ Chicken Wings or Hot Wings
13+ Toquitoes
2x Cheese Burgers
2x Quesadilla
Frozen French Fries
25++ Jalapeno Poppers
I was skinny before that summer.. so you can guess what happened ;/ I don't eat nearly as much anymore but back in the day, a meal wasn't a meal until I was full and ready to keel over from maxxing out. I'm on the fit route now tho so its all good
Bet none of you skinnnies can top my diet
MikeyIs4Dcats
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waggy
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sad part is many schools are going in the opposite direction. by canceling sports, recess, PE etc.
When i was younger i was outside all day. no matter if it was raining or sunny out. we were outside doing something. I also participated in many after school sports. From wrestling to baseball. even after school i still would go do something if i could.
My wife's sister is 13 or 14. she is a very beautiful girl. but all she does is site inside doing homework or watching TV. so needless to say she is kinda big. If she was to lose 40lbs she would be gorgeous.
with my kids if its nice outside they are out. we have a big wooden play set they can use or 3 acres of yard to play in. also the town i live in is "safe" enough they can ride up and down the sidewalk on bikes.
only time they come in is if the weather is bad. though today they have been in even though it is 50F its just way to muddy to be outside heh.
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