Will he get a penalty for cutting across the feild?
Originally posted by: glen
Will he get a penalty for cutting across the feild?
He hasn't yet. I have a feeling they thought "it was the best course of action he could take at the time" and let him get away with it there.
Thanks. Can you tell me more? I am curious as to the rules and guidelines for those sort of situations. I am sure simmilar things have come up and been ruled upon before now.
Well, technically you have to complete "the full course" or you're DQed. This was ruled to be a special case by the race director (kinda like a home-plate ump....has final say on all things regarding the rules) as Armstrong was basically just trying not to crash and didn't gain any advantage over the small group he was in.
They could have DQed him pretty fairly I suppose however, the outcry had they done so would have been huge. I just wonder how Lance knew he would get away with it. He had enough lead he could have stopped and gone back the correct way and lost less than a min, and he will win by more than that. So, why did he take a chance on being DQed?
Honestly, even if he'd stopped, climbed back up the hill and restarted at the point where he went off the road, the guys in the group would have waited for him. It's considered extremely bad form in cycling to attack and gain time over someone who crashed or had some kind of mishap.
i guess this is one thing french that we can support. 
i never realized how dangerous the race was until i heard about that guy who had his tire blow out and pretty much broke his leg. i would consider these types of races to be much tougher than basketball or football, it's like those ironman triathalons.
i never realized how dangerous the race was until i heard about that guy who had his tire blow out and pretty much broke his leg. i would consider these types of races to be much tougher than basketball or football, it's like those ironman triathalons.
Looks like the pink guy crashed, all his teammates stopped for him, and everyone else poured on ahead.
Now, clearly that guy was out of the race, but his teammates suffered for stopping for him, which was cool that they did.
Now, clearly that guy was out of the race, but his teammates suffered for stopping for him, which was cool that they did.
Kind of a tricky situation in this case as one guy (Vinoukourov) was attacking already ahead of the small group Lance and the guy who crashed were in. They didn't want to take advantage of Beloki's crash, but they didn't want to lose time to an overall contender like Vinoukourov either. That said, I'm not sure if they would have waited for Armstrong (like I said previously). Anyway, I think the race director made the right call as Armstrong was just trying not to crash rather than any kind of attempt to cheat.
Each team has one or two leaders; everyone else's job is to protect and help them at all costs so any time lost by his helpers (domestiques) is irrelevant. They were just stopping to see if he could continue....if he had been able to, they would have done all the work to pace him back into the Armstrong group.
It's older than either world war, so I don't see why not.Originally posted by: drewshin
i guess this is one thing french that we can support.
I linked the vid of the crash above...he was probably doing 40-45mph when he hit the deck. He broke his upper femur, compound elbow fracture, a couple broken fingers and lost a bunch of skin. Not fun.
The Tour is 100+ miles per day for three weeks over some huge-ass mountains. I don't think there is a tougher sporting event.
Originally posted by: Fausto1
It's older than either world war, so I don't see why not.Originally posted by: drewshin
i guess this is one thing french that we can support.
I linked the vid of the crash above...he was probably doing 40-45mph when he hit the deck. He broke his upper femur, compound elbow fracture, a couple broken fingers and lost a bunch of skin. Not fun.
The Tour is 100+ miles per day for three weeks over some huge-ass mountains. I don't think there is a tougher sporting event.
ignore his ignorance. If he doesnt understand it, he hates it.
I wouldn't say that. Any honest interest in such a grand event is a good thing IMO. I don't mind answering lots of questions if it means I can help people at least understand and enjoy why the Tour is such a big deal.Originally posted by: FallenHero
Originally posted by: Fausto1
It's older than either world war, so I don't see why not.Originally posted by: drewshin
i guess this is one thing french that we can support.
I linked the vid of the crash above...he was probably doing 40-45mph when he hit the deck. He broke his upper femur, compound elbow fracture, a couple broken fingers and lost a bunch of skin. Not fun.
The Tour is 100+ miles per day for three weeks over some huge-ass mountains. I don't think there is a tougher sporting event.
ignore his ignorance. If he doesnt understand it, he hates it.
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Originally posted by: ElFenix
they're protesting the jailing of a french farmer who crapped in a mcdonalds or something, and also torched some "genetically engineered" food (all food is genetically engineered)
the stupid thing is that the fvcktards in charge of the race determined that it was a normal race obstacle and that the riders would have to negotiate it.
goddamned french. why i don't care about the race really.
You can't be serious.Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
Originally posted by: ElFenix
they're protesting the jailing of a french farmer who crapped in a mcdonalds or something, and also torched some "genetically engineered" food (all food is genetically engineered)
the stupid thing is that the fvcktards in charge of the race determined that it was a normal race obstacle and that the riders would have to negotiate it.
goddamned french. why i don't care about the race really.
more action and more variety of plays = more entertaining. the games are more suspensful and you can actually watch a game from beginning to end.
cycling on the other hand is just pedaling and drafting. i'm not saying it's not athletic, it's just extremely boring to watch.
Okay...you tell that to the billions who tune in every year.
Seriously, it's just a different kind of event to watch. If you're not clued in as to who the big players are and how the tactical situations play out it's probably pretty boring. If I were so sit down and watch a stage with you and explain what all's going on at any given moment it would make more sense and likely be more interesting. It's a lot like chess; there's a lot of setup and head games that go on before the big moves are made and someone wins or loses.
No problem.
I think OLNtv.com has a live audio broadcast of each stage as well that you could check out. I'll see if I can find other links; sometimes you can watch live feed from the french TV coverage.
Adul
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Strong words from someone whose nick would indicate he lives and breathes a computer game.
I posted this so those who wanted to catch up on the Tour could do so. You can most kindly go fsck yourself.
Fausto1,
Nice to see someone with the passion I once had for the sport....
As for watching cycling, its hard to fully appreciate the tactics that are at play without being pretty familar with the sport... Its actually pretty exciting for the most part, but not the easiest to follow for the casual observer....
As for the physical aspects, its really hard to convey the effort and speed that the riders put forth, but its one of the most demanding sports out there... I was a decent regional rider back in the day, but coudn't hang with the national class riders.... and all but a few national class riders can hang with the world class riders you see in the Tour.... The difference is unbelievable, and hard to imagine until you have experienced it in person....
Dave
PS: How did you do on the track the other night? How did you like it?
Nice to see someone with the passion I once had for the sport....
As for watching cycling, its hard to fully appreciate the tactics that are at play without being pretty familar with the sport... Its actually pretty exciting for the most part, but not the easiest to follow for the casual observer....
As for the physical aspects, its really hard to convey the effort and speed that the riders put forth, but its one of the most demanding sports out there... I was a decent regional rider back in the day, but coudn't hang with the national class riders.... and all but a few national class riders can hang with the world class riders you see in the Tour.... The difference is unbelievable, and hard to imagine until you have experienced it in person....
Dave
PS: How did you do on the track the other night? How did you like it?
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