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Official "The Apprentice 2" Thread
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imported_Strang
Platinum Member
I was hoping for Trump to say "Ivana, you're fired. You don't know how long I've been wanting to say that." 😛
PlatinumGold
Lifer
wonder how trump felt saying "Ivana your fired". bet he wish he had been able to say that to his wife.
Their biggest problem, which was hardly mentioned, was the fact that they only manufactured ~10% more usable product, with 50% more manpower.
And Carolyn isn't hot. She's a twig and looks anorexic.
And yes, Jen can definitely win. Her strongest point is that she can sell herself. Take a look at the Levi's assignment... They were entirely impressed by her.
The next assignment are the tough back-to-back interviews. I'll bet she flys right through those. Both Kevin and Sandy are going to struggle.
shenaniganz
Golden Member
Anybody else think this task was lame? They're all vying for a huge position for Donald Trump and here they are in a candy bar factory making chocolate bars. I've only seen the show a couple times so maybe all tasks are similar.
Oh, on a side note, anybody else think Ivana looked like William Hung when her hair was pulled back?
Oh, on a side note, anybody else think Ivana looked like William Hung when her hair was pulled back?
MrChad
Lifer
Boy the women on this show are really setting a good example for the "independent career woman," aren't they? 😛 Jen and Sandy at least had a theme to their gimmick, but Ivana was two steps away from prostitution.
Anyhow, I think Jen has a very good shot at winning the whole thing. I'll be very surprised if she and Kelly are not the final two.
Anyhow, I think Jen has a very good shot at winning the whole thing. I'll be very surprised if she and Kelly are not the final two.
i laughed so hard at ivana last night. what a stupid b1tch and a hypocrite. first she calls jen and sandy strippers and talks sh1t about them, and then she turns right around and really does strip for bucks. trump shouldnt have waited, he should have fired her as soon as she walked into the room.
oh and caroline was pissed. the most i've seen her pissed in 2 seasons.
oh and caroline was pissed. the most i've seen her pissed in 2 seasons.
MrChad
Lifer
HAHA. Carolyn looked positively giddy when Ivana's team lost and had to go to the boardroom. She definitely wanted to see Ivana go down.
C: "What's your record as project manager Ivana?"
I: "Uh, I have two losses"
C: "What about yours, Kevin?"
Kevin: "2 and 0"
C: "Kelly?"
Kelly: "3 and 0"
I: "But, but, Jen's lost two times too!"
geecee
Platinum Member
Ivana was a good support person, bad leader. She was the type a leader might want to have on their team. She exhibited so-so communication skills and an inability to express herself. Also, in both tasks she failed as leader, she did not handle the early phases well and was forced to take drastic measures toward the end, realizing that the other team was doing much better than hers. She easily deserved to be fired. I thought she was especially embarrassing this last episode. If you're going to lose, at least lose with a little dignity. Then again, some people might see it as she was willing to do whatever necessary to be successful. Obviously not Caroline though. 😛
Jen is all style, no substance and unfortunately, is the type who too often does well in corporate America today. I think the final interviews will find her lacking to some extent. Sandy, has the least education and is the least versatile, but I think it's impressive that she got to the final four. Kevin is OK, but has made some bad decisions. He stays calm under pressure though and I think that's a good thing. Kelly seems to be the most versatile, and seems to have knack for getting people to do good work. I'd go with Kelly to win.
I think these sell candy bars/lemonade/whatever episodes are pretty ridiculous. Usually it ends up being a situation where whichever team's women are more willing to do more questionable things ends up determining the winner. It seemed that the only way Ivana, Kevin and Kelly were going to beat Jen and Sandy was on sales volume. They would have been better off trying to sell 500+ bars @ $2 each, than trying to compete on price and salesmanship with less volume. Face it, men are bigger suckers for two blonde, provocatively dressed women peddling $5 candy bars than men (or anyone for that matter) will be for three normally dressed people hawking cheaper ones. As much as people want to denounce the use of sex to sell, these episodes just show its success as a sales tactic. Go back to the ice cream episode where Ivana (who, ironically, was leader in her first loss) specifically said she didn't want to use sex appeal to sell the ice cream. What happened? Aside from just poor organization, the women lost because they didn't use it enough and the men actually put it to use (flirting with women, getting attractive women to help serve the ice cream, etc). NBC obviously does this for ratings and the "OMG! What are they doing?" factor, yet in the boardrooms of these episodes, it invariably is mentioned and frowned upon. So which way is it supposed to be? You don't want the sex factor, don't give these types of tasks.
Jen is all style, no substance and unfortunately, is the type who too often does well in corporate America today. I think the final interviews will find her lacking to some extent. Sandy, has the least education and is the least versatile, but I think it's impressive that she got to the final four. Kevin is OK, but has made some bad decisions. He stays calm under pressure though and I think that's a good thing. Kelly seems to be the most versatile, and seems to have knack for getting people to do good work. I'd go with Kelly to win.
I think these sell candy bars/lemonade/whatever episodes are pretty ridiculous. Usually it ends up being a situation where whichever team's women are more willing to do more questionable things ends up determining the winner. It seemed that the only way Ivana, Kevin and Kelly were going to beat Jen and Sandy was on sales volume. They would have been better off trying to sell 500+ bars @ $2 each, than trying to compete on price and salesmanship with less volume. Face it, men are bigger suckers for two blonde, provocatively dressed women peddling $5 candy bars than men (or anyone for that matter) will be for three normally dressed people hawking cheaper ones. As much as people want to denounce the use of sex to sell, these episodes just show its success as a sales tactic. Go back to the ice cream episode where Ivana (who, ironically, was leader in her first loss) specifically said she didn't want to use sex appeal to sell the ice cream. What happened? Aside from just poor organization, the women lost because they didn't use it enough and the men actually put it to use (flirting with women, getting attractive women to help serve the ice cream, etc). NBC obviously does this for ratings and the "OMG! What are they doing?" factor, yet in the boardrooms of these episodes, it invariably is mentioned and frowned upon. So which way is it supposed to be? You don't want the sex factor, don't give these types of tasks.
poopaskoopa
Diamond Member
From what I've read, I expect Sandy and Kevin to get fired. Online betting for this season's winner has been suspended due to unusual amounts of bets placed on both Kelly and Jen.
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