*** Official Soltek 75FRN-L/75FRN2-L (nForce2) Thread ***

[DAPUNISHER]

but hell then it seems we wasted our dough on the Mushkin ram then

Nah, it'll find a home in the i865 springdale chipset or Canterwood board (just depends on pricing) I'll be buying for my P4

 

[BentValve]

I am shocked!
This is my first dip into an Nforce 2 board, I have just now been looking around and it seems not too many people
can hit 190fsb ,much less 200+ ! I though 200fsb was the norm!

 

[BentValve]

but it's a rock so far@190fsb and I'm not throwing in the towel just yet on 200fsb stable. Remember I still haven't lapped the NB cooler&added Shin-Etsu, I haven't stopped using the fan header, I haven't added that 4th case fan to aid in cooling the SB and reduce case temps perhaps as well, and I have higher ambient&case temps than you do. When I'm done playing if 200fsb still isn't a go I'll be satisfied with where it's@since the CPU overclock is more relevant

Oh you still haven't taken care of that NB? Oh well i'd bet $500 that you'll hit 200fsb with easy once you do that and stop using the fan header.
I thought you had done all that by now, you have alot of work to do then!

 

[BentValve]

one of these will surely get you another 10mhz.

 

[DAPUNISHER]

Originally posted by: BentValve
one of these will surely get you another 10mhz.

LMAO I should have thought of that! I'll add a couple of racing stickers like the ricers do and get at least another 50mhz

 

[Tab]

Prime95 is being bitchy with me, Samsung is NOT liking my overclocking cycle..... Will trying messing with voltages, even though I really dont like overvolting...

 

[DAPUNISHER]

Originally posted by: BentValve
I am shocked!
This is my first dip into an Nforce 2 board, I have just now been looking around and it seems not too many people
can hit 190fsb ,much less 200+ ! I though 200fsb was the norm!

That's why I hear the A3 revision is a big deal.

 

[DAPUNISHER]

Originally posted by: Tabb
Prime95 is being bitchy with me, Samsung is NOT liking my overclocking cycle..... Will trying messing with voltages, even though I really dont like overvolting...

just don't go over 2.7v Ram and 1.8v CPU (as long as your cooling is up to it) and you won't fry anything but you will get extra fault tolerance to help stabilize things. You could raise the multiplier and overclock without pushing ram too.

 

[Tab]

Okay, couldn't get into windows with 1.7vcore and 6-3-3-2.5 but... I got into windows with 6-4-4-2.5 I'll see how Prime95 Runs with this. I am using a Antec TruBlue 350watt. Currently running at 12x166 and getting 2000Mhz I hope it stays stable....

EDIT: Computer doesnt like it I get a FATAL Error in Prime95

 

[DAPUNISHER]

Originally posted by: Tabb
Okay, couldn't get into windows with 1.7vcore and 6-3-3-2.5 but... I got into windows with 6-4-4-2.5 I'll see how Prime95 Runs with this. I am using a Antec TruBlue 350watt. Currently running at 12x166 and getting 2000Mhz I hope it stays stable....

EDIT: Computer doesnt like it I get a FATAL Error in Prime95

Could you list your system specs including power supply wattage and brand and CPU heatsink/fan? List the voltage readings from the Soltek hardware monitoring utility too maybe one is dipping too low.

Hey, if the CPU temp isn't already mid 50'sc try going to 1.75v just to see if it stabilizes, that voltage won't kill your chip for a long time, heck you'll most likely replace it long before that voltage degrades it much.

 

[BentValve]

Originally posted by: DAPUNISHER

Originally posted by: BentValve
I am shocked!
This is my first dip into an Nforce 2 board, I have just now been looking around and it seems not too many people
can hit 190fsb ,much less 200+ ! I though 200fsb was the norm!

That's why I hear the A3 revision is a big deal.

What other boards are using the A3? So far I only see one guy getting 225fsb, which tells us nothing about the
chip. In fact I doubt that a new revision chip could yeild that much more speed with the same voltage.

 

[knightc2]

I want one, but how do I know if I am getting the A3 board? Any ideas? I am thinking about ordering from Googlegear.

 

[Tab]

I doubt heat is a problem for me. I put ASIII on my shitty thermaltake Volcano 9 Coolmod, worst heatsink ever made. I am getting temps around 43c idle, not sure what I get full loud usally around 47 or 45. I only have my Antec TruBlue fans and my ThermalTake Volcano running at 2500rpms. My voltages are doing good for the most part, I am starting to assume my ram is limiting my overclocking Unless I am missing some opition in the bios

With the voltages flying around on the charts I am not sure how you want me to put them down...

CPU Vcore 1.68 to 1.696
3.3 Line 3.244 3.264
5 Line 5.026 (Likes staying the same it seems)
-5 Line 5.09 to 5.14
12 Line 11.977 to 12.038
-12 Line 12.45 to 12.53

It kinda disappointing considering I have no idea as to why I cant hit 1Ghz and 333Mhz FSB with this setup. Please someone help me
While its not that far off from 2Ghz, I would still like to say my processor is 2Ghz instead of 1.84

Right now I am running at 1.84Ghz and 166x11 6-3-3-2.5 Stable

EDIT

I actually booted up into windows at 12x166 and 1.750 Vcore. However Prime95 fails within seconds WHY WONT YOU OVERCLOCK!

 

[DAPUNISHER]

Originally posted by: BentValve

Originally posted by: DAPUNISHER

Originally posted by: BentValve
I am shocked!
This is my first dip into an Nforce 2 board, I have just now been looking around and it seems not too many people
can hit 190fsb ,much less 200+ ! I though 200fsb was the norm!

That's why I hear the A3 revision is a big deal.

What other boards are using the A3? So far I only see one guy getting 225fsb, which tells us nothing about the
chip. In fact I doubt that a new revision chip could yeild that much more speed with the same voltage.

This article shows the latest revision of both the SL-75FRN-L and 8RDA+ have the A3 NB I'm not certain which others have but I should think the new rev. boards from all the manufacturers will use it if they aren't already.

 

[DAPUNISHER]

Hey Tabb I think you're right about the ram holding you back so reduce it to 80% until you establish wether the CPU can go 2ghz without the ram being a factor. That way you will know wether upgrading the ram will be your best upgrade since as yo know, it's better to run synchronous.

 

[DAPUNISHER]

Originally posted by: knightc2
I want one, but how do I know if I am getting the A3 board? Any ideas? I am thinking about ordering from Googlegear.

From what I've seen the SL-75FRN2-L has the A3 northbridge but you can call
ExcaliberPC and ask them if it does and get a straight answer as this place is getting excellent word of mouth advertising because of the way they cater to overclockers and sell specific stepping CPUs that yield the best overclocking results though at a understandable premium.

 

[BentValve]

I got my Mushkin ram and although I am not finished testing it I am very disappoint. I tried booting up at 211mhz synced and it was a no go.

I just finish several rounds of out of sync testing fsb 166-180ish which I know for a fact this mobo can handle without a problem.
So far I cannot get the Mushin ram to run over 200mhz whatsoever ..not even 2mhz!

Right now I am running at 190x11.5 synced , 7/2/2/2 cas 2.5 and its ok ...(for now)...and big whooping deal my Micron
can do this.

I am going to try some more out of sync testing just in case I made an error...I will give it many more trys before I shoot it down but
in the end this ram should run at least 210mhz if not then its going back for sure. I was actually hoping for around 250mhz with some
mild timing adjustments. That definately is not going to happen.

 

[DAPUNISHER]

That's not good, mine is on order which I think means OOS so I hope the new batch is better or I'll be doing the in store return too! Of course I'll try it in my P4PE first since every brand and speed of ram I put in it runs like a scolded dog compared to the default specs. That review had me pumped but your results aren't encouraging so far. Have you upped the vdd to 2.7v? I know you shouldn't have to but ya never know....

 

[BentValve]

Here is what I am going to do:

Right now I have the Micron ram back in and I am trying to push it as far as it can possibly go and remain stable. It almost is stable at
200mhz but I think the mobo itself becomes the problem at that point because wether the ram is at 2.5v or 2.8v it crashes about the
same time. When I say almost stable I mean it runs alot of basic tasks , it can even run a few rounds of PCMark , it take a Prime 95
test to make the system fall.
I am at 195mhz now , 2.6v vram , 11.5x mutiplier and vram @1.775...prime 95 torture and F@H are running in the background and
so far so good. I have a feeling that the system will be ok right here...if anything I may need to up the vram some. Its hard to explain
but with everything that has happened I really think I have hit my mobo's limit, I need for NB voltage to know for sure.
Anyways I can also get a 12x multiplier so I can have 2340mhz@195fsb synced for a max running speed..I am happy with this!

So after I have established that the system can handle these settings then the Mushkin will go back in and get the same settings
if it fails it goes back , if it passes then it gets very aggressive timings...if it fails at this point then I am returning it and not buying
any other ram because my Micron is all I need.

 

[BentValve]

Have you upped the vdd to 2.7v?

You bet, I have had it up to the max of 2.8V.

 

[BentValve]

Update:
I ran the torture test about 1000 times and now have the Mushkin ram in running the same settings.
Also I did get my new Antec SX1040 with a 400watt PSU, after this testing is over I am going to swap
cases and try running the Micron ram @ 200fsb again.

 

[DAPUNISHER]

I have a feeling my board isn't going to let that Mushkin do it's thing synched even if the ram is sweet so I'm thinking it's going to find a different home or go back if it bonks in my P4PE.

 

[BentValve]

Well I have discovered something that makes most of my prior testing on my Mushkin ram useless. My mobo will not
run unsyced at all. It wont even boot up at 100mhz fsb and 150% ram! There must be another setting or something
in order for unsynced to work.

Synced both the Micron/Mushkin work up to as fast as I can get the board to run, neither ram drops out. The mobo
runs stable synced to 195mhz , now tthe Micron can run up to 9/4/4 cas 3.0 @195mhz while the Mushkin can run
at 5/2/2 cas 2.0 at 195mhz.

If I can figure out how to run the ram out of sync with the rest of the board then I can isolate the ram and figure out
how fast it will go.

For all I know this Mushkin may well do 250mhz....I am really interested to see what it does you your P4 board Dapunisher!

 

[BentValve]

I am up to 4/2/2 cas 2.0 @195mhz(390ddr) , I got greedy and tried 2/1/1/2 once with no luck.

 

[BentValve]

Well its almost stable at 195mhz but not quite ,backing it down to 190mhz it runs great. For long term use
I could see backing it down to about 180mhz and using the Micron ram. It seems so wasteful to use
the Mushkin , the only benefit is faster timings which to be honest I cannot tell the difference between
9,4,4,cas 3 and 5,2,2,cas 2.