*** OFFICIAL *** Rugby World Cup 2011 Thread!

Cerpin Taxt

Lifer
Feb 23, 2005
11,940
542
126
It's that time again, folks. :awe::awe::awe:

http://www.rugbyworldcup.com/

Fixtures start 11/09/09 in New Zealand with the first round of pool play, and 10 of the more prominent matches (out of 38) will be televised live (and replayed) here in the states on NBC Sports and Universal Sports.

New Zealand is a pretty heavy favorite, but Australia and South Africa should give them some stiff competition. Teams to watch are Argentina, Canada, and of course the USA EAGLES!

If you're not up to catching New Zealand vs Tonga at 4:15am on Sept. 9th on Universal Sports, catch USA vs. Ireland on NBC Sports Sept 11th at 1pm and replayed again at 5pm. (Times are EST) GO EAGLES! :cool:

41749082hakaallblacks41.jpg
rugbyworldcup2011logo.jpg
englandrugbyworl1401887.jpg
 
Last edited:
Oct 27, 2007
17,009
5
0
Tomorrow night :D :D

I'm not a huge rugby fan, I like the sport but I'm not obsessed like some Kiwis. However I will obsessively watch any of the major international events (Olympics, Commonwealth Games, Football WC, etc) so I'm very excited about this. Not least of all because it's hosted right here and I happen to be living in one of the major centers with lots of games :)

Go the All Blacks! It has been over quarter of a century since we won a world cup title, despite being the dominant team in most other competitions.

Any other rugby fans in AT?
 

Cerpin Taxt

Lifer
Feb 23, 2005
11,940
542
126
Tomorrow night :D :D

I'm not a huge rugby fan, I like the sport but I'm not obsessed like some Kiwis. However I will obsessively watch any of the major international events (Olympics, Commonwealth Games, Football WC, etc) so I'm very excited about this. Not least of all because it's hosted right here and I happen to be living in one of the major centers with lots of games :)
Who'd've thought rugby would be such a popular sport in Middle Earth? ;)

Go the All Blacks! It has been over quarter of a century since we won a world cup title, despite being the dominant team in most other competitions.

Any other rugby fans in AT?
I'm sure they're few, but maybe this tournament can inspire some new fans of the game.

A few cool promo videos:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xeYPI7LAdjM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZgwBE5Tu4nc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWhbavFpWZk <-- Classic All Blacks. :cool:
 
Last edited:

Cerpin Taxt

Lifer
Feb 23, 2005
11,940
542
126
Some (Very) Basic Rules of Rugby

The Team: A fielded rugby team is referred to as "a side." Each side consists of 15 fielded players and a maximum of 7 reserves. A fielded team is divided into "Forwards" (numbers 1 thru 8) and "Backs" (numbers 9 thru 15). The number 9 (the halfback, or scrum half) is somewhat unique in that he acts as a connection of sorts between the forwards (the "pack") and the backs (the "pansies";)), and in this way he is distinct from the rest of the backs.

Scoring: 5 points are awarded for grounding the ball in the opponent's try zone (like an end zone). This score is called a "Try" and it includes an opportunity to kick a conversion through the goal posts for 2 additional points.

3 points are awarded for a penalty kick through the goal posts, and 3 points are also awarded for a drop kick through the uprights in open play (called a "drop goal").

Attacking (Offense): Any player may carry the ball at any time in open play, and any ball carrier may pass to another player at any time. All passes must go behind the ball carrier. Any player can kick the ball at any time and in any direction, but generally all kicks are forward.

Blocking (called "obstructing") is not allowed.

Defending (Defense): Any player who is not a member of the team in possession of the ball is on defense. Any defender may tackle the ball carrier -- and only the ball carrier -- at any time. Tackles must be made at the shoulder or below, and an attempt must be made with the arms to wrap up and hold the ball carrier.

It is possible for a defender to hold a ball up in the try zone to prevent the attacker from grounding it, thus preventing a try.

At The Tackle: A defender has tackled a ball carrier when the carrier is held and brought to ground. Shoestring tackles permit the attacker to return to his feet and continue his attack since he is not held to ground. Upon being held to ground, the ball carrier must release the ball. As well, the tackler is responsible for releasing the attacker and rolling away (as best as he is able). Any player on his feet may recover the ball from the ground and advance it. Any player not on his feet may not play the ball.

The Ruck: A ruck is formed at the location of the tackle when at least one player from each side comes into contact with each other in contest for the released ball. Players in a ruck must remain on their feet, and the ball may only be played with the feet. The object of the ruck is to gain (or re-gain) possession of the ball by pushing and shoving the opponents back from where the ball lies and moving the ball back behind one's teammates where it may be played again.

The Maul: Similar to a ruck, a maul is formed when a defender comes into contact and holds a ball carrier but does not bring him to the ground. At this point, other players may bind on to the ball carrier (or the defender who caught the carrier, respectively for each team) and push the ball in the objective direction. Players in a maul must remain on their feet, and the ball may be handed off (backwards, of course) to other players in the maul. The team carrying the ball into the maul must keep the maul moving forward until they can safely deliver the ball out of the maul for additional play, lest the referee award the opposite team an infraction.

Offside: When a ruck or maul is formed, players on both sides who are not in the ruck/maul, must remain on their respective sides of the field and behind the hindmost foot of their teammates who are in the ruck/maul until the ball is freed from the ruck/maul and open play resumes. Other specific instances of offside include being at least 5 meters behind the hindmost foot of the scrum, and 10 meters behind the line-out.

Minor infractions: The most common examples include causing the ball to go forward after contact with the hands (forward pass and "knock on"), and failure to make the ball playable after carrying the ball into a ruck or maul. The penalty for such infractions is a scrum, where the opposite team gains the advantage of putting the ball into the scrum.

Penalties
: Examples include failing to release the ball when tackled, tackling a player above the shoulders, being offside, playing the ball with the hands while in a ruck, diving over a ruck and obstructing defenders (blocking for the ball carrier). The award for a penalty is a free kick for the opposing team, and a mandatory 10-meter retreat for the penalized team until the ball is kicked. Penalty kicks may be taken at the goal posts for points, kicked directly out of bounds ("into touch") while still retaining possession, or simply tapped with the foot and carried forward.

The Scrum: A method of restarting play after minor infractions, the scrum is formed when both teams' groups of forwards bind together and prepare to engage at the (approximate) spot of the infraction. Upon engagement, a tunnel is formed between the opposing teams, and the ball is delivered into the tunnel from the side of the scrum. The team that earns the right to put the ball into the scrum gains an advantage by coordinating and timing the put-in with his own teammates. Once the ball is in the scrum, the teams endeavor to pull the ball under their own feet and feed it to the back of the scrum, where it can be recovered and played.

The Line Out: A method of bringing the ball back into play after it goes out of bounds ("into touch"). With the exception of penalty kicks, the team who last contacted the ball before it entered touch loses possession. The team with possession earns the right to throw the ball in, however the throw must be made straightly, perpendicular to the sideline. The players on the field line up at least 5 meters from the sideline, and a minimum of 1 meter apart, forming a tunnel into which the ball will be thrown. When the ball is thrown, it is permissible to lift one's teammates into the air to gain an advantage in receiving the ball.
 

Cerpin Taxt

Lifer
Feb 23, 2005
11,940
542
126
node5bapplication5d5c5c.jpg


The USA Men’s National Team, nicknamed the Eagles, has a long and storied history. Gold medal winners in Olympic rugby in 1920 and 1924, the Eagles resumed playing international matches in the modern era in 1976 and compete against the top rugby nations in the world.


The Eagles are currently ranked #17 in the world after a 2010 November Tour and the 2011 Churchill Cup. After three weeks together, the USA looked to be coming into their own following two tough losses to England Saxons and Tonga in this year's Churchill Cup.


With three test matches before they head to New Zealand to compete on the world's biggest stage, the 2011 Rugby World Cup, USA Head Coach will look to sharpen the Eagles' talons and prepare them for a strong performance in the RWC.


With electric players heading into the squad such as fullback Chris Wyles, winger Takudzwa Ngwenya and physical enforcers like captain Todd Clever and Paul Emerick, the Eagles have a combonation of speed, tenacity, and physicality. The challenge is to get the team on the same page and firing on all cylinders before September. If that happens, expect fireworks fromt he Eagles in the 2011 Rugby World Cup.


http://www.usarugby.org/goto/Mens_Eagles#goto/mens_eagles
 

Ancalagon44

Diamond Member
Feb 17, 2010
3,274
202
106
Meh, I'm rooting for South Africa (of course!) but I am a bit worried about our boys in green and gold. I'm not so sure that we will dominate like we did the last world cup. But I hope we will...
 

Cerpin Taxt

Lifer
Feb 23, 2005
11,940
542
126
Meh, I'm rooting for South Africa (of course!) but I am a bit worried about our boys in green and gold. I'm not so sure that we will dominate like we did the last world cup. But I hope we will...
Your 7s team has performed quite well recently, eeking out an amazing victory over Australia at the HSBC 7s World Series.

I agree, though, that they're going to have their work cut out for them here in the World Cup.
 

Cerpin Taxt

Lifer
Feb 23, 2005
11,940
542
126
Could rugby take off in the US?

By Tom Geoghegan BBC News, Washington DC
_55222055_headtohead464.jpg

A new television deal means millions of Americans will be able to watch their rugby team at the World Cup later this week. As the sport enjoys a surge of popularity, could this be the moment when the land of American football takes rugby union to its heart?
The US love affair with an odd-shaped ball is very well known.
Former England star Ben Cohen

_55193037_cohen2_getty304.jpg

In my view there is just as much passion for rugby in the US as in the UK. That passion, though, seems to be shared by a minority compared with football, baseball and basketball.
We can see in the Churchill Cup and World Cup that The Eagles are building and they are not easy to play against. Americans like to do well!
I have experienced US rugby at different levels through the gay/gay-friendly clubs I visited to promote my anti-homophobia charity Stand Up.
There is no reason at all why rugby can't make it in the States. Interest is fast growing. If they can grab the concept of rugby it would be a major step forward and they could be world-beaters.
American football currently fills the sports pages as the new NFL season gets under way, crowding out any mention of the rugby World Cup in New Zealand, which starts on Friday.
But away from the newspaper headlines, there are the first signs that rugby is starting to take root in the land of gridiron.
On school playing fields, college campuses and in deprived inner cities, more and more young Americans are taking up the sport.
According to the Sporting Goods Manufacturers' Association (SGMA), which conducts an annual survey of sporting participation in 120 different sports, it is the fastest growing team sport in the US.
In 2010, the number of people playing the full-contact version of the game grew from 750,000 to 1.13m, says SGMA executive Mike May, with women making up a third of the total.
"It's like a snowball rolling downhill. I never thought I would ever see it being played on a high school campus, which I did two years ago here in Florida. It was amazing."
_55220300_rugby_a_football_624.gif

As well as increased participation, there are other ways that rugby is making its mark.
At 13:00 ET on Sunday, rugby fans in the US will be able to turn on a mainstream television network, NBC Sports, and watch the USA Eagles, ranked 18th in the world, take on Ireland in their opening World Cup match. It's a delayed broadcast because of the time difference.
The sport in the US could also benefit from the inclusion of seven-a-side rugby in the Olympic Games in 2016. The US is, after all, the last country to win a gold medal at rugby, in 1924, the last time the sport featured in the Olympics.
All these elements suggest rugby could start to gain some traction, says Nigel Melville, the former England international who is now chief executive of the sport's national governing body, USA Rugby.
Rugby gives the world gridiron

_55193038_ball_hall304_100.jpg

American football came from rugby and soccer, says Pete Fierle of the Pro Football Hall of Fame in Ohio.
"Our game wasn't invented, it evolved. It was very much a running game in the early days and if you look at a football from the early 1800s (above), it resembles a rugby ball.
"The pass wasn't legalised until 1906 so the ball then became more conducive to throwing."
The deal with NBC is a huge step forward, he says, coming at a time when the sport's popularity among young people has never been greater.
"We're experiencing incredible growth in our youth, high school and college programmes and that's been our strategy, to build the foundation of the game and get the ball into the hands of kids at an early age."
Traditionally, interest in rugby has centred on Irish communities in the north-east and the Polynesian migrants on the Pacific coast, but that's changing.
In the last three years, half a million six to 12-year-olds across the US have taken up so-called Rookie Rugby, which is a version of the sport without the tackling, says Mr Melville.
And older age groups have flocked to the full contact form of the sport too, with USA Rugby membership increasing by 40% since 2007.
The appeal, he believes, lies in both the physical challenge and the spirit in which the game is played.
"I think in the game itself, they enjoy the athleticism and the contact. And they've found it intriguing that you would sit down with opponents after the game and have dinner with them.
"Having that respect for your opponents, on and off the field, and for officials - is not normal in professional sport."
The World Cup is a big moment, says Mr Melville, but the next step is to try and establish a full-time residential training facility for the top players, starting with the seven-a-side specialists who will play in the Olympics in 2016 in Rio de Janeiro.
Rugby on LA's mean streets

_55083714_kids_304.jpg

A scheme founded by ex-pro Stuart Krohn provides rugby to thousands of youngsters in deprived South Los Angeles, formerly known as South Central.
Training and matches make up about 10 hours a week, but participation is dependent on good academic performance.
One advantage over American football is that rugby encourages decision-making on the pitch, which is empowering and hugely beneficial, says Krohn.
"Rugby makes a huge difference by exposing them to something they've never been exposed to. For people whose perspective has been closed, the world becomes their oyster."
A professional league based in the US is further off, he says, but he's optimistic it can happen.
"I've seen in 30 years what soccer has achieved over here. We can achieve that quicker because of social media and electronic media. There are huge opportunities for rugby in America.
"We want to make it a mainstream sport and at the same time, maintain the spirit of the game, which makes it unique."
Inevitably, comparisons will be made with American football, which is recovering from a summer of scandal engulfing college football. Rugby hopes to benefit from the production line of big, mobile footballers who excel up to college level and then find they can't get a professional contract.
But will the physical nature of rugby put parents off? Head injuries have become a major concern in American football in recent years, with retired players taking legal action against the National Football League.
Parents fear rugby is football without the protection, says Mr May of the SGMA.
"There's a misconception that because people don't have pads, it's more physically demanding and dangerous, but there are fewer injuries than in football. Once parents see a rugby game played, they're OK with it.
_55083715_ebony_112.jpg
Ebony McCaskill Rugby player, aged 16, Los Angeles
I chose rugby because I was big for my age and soccer didn't have enough contact for me. My science teacher was very enthusiastic and convinced me to join. I had no idea what rugby was but when I heard there was tackling, I was sold.
I love the atmosphere rugby creates. There is a lot of interaction on the pitch so communication on and off the field is imperative. Rugby promotes teamwork, respect and self-motivation.
It has changed my life dramatically. I have learned how to interact with people in order to get a task completed. I am more comfortable and confident with my body and mindset because rugby is all about giving nothing but your best.
I feel more active and adventurous too. My trips to Hong Kong and South Africa [with the team] have taught me to not only appreciate culture but appreciate the many privileges I take for granted at home.
"I played rugby for 20 years and there's no way I could have played American football for that period with the same intensity and lasted like I did. Unless you have the ball, you don't receive much contact."
There is also a cultural barrier, and it starts with the name, he says.
"People are a little bit turned off by the word 'rugby' because there's no 'ball' in it, like basketball, football, baseball and softball. And for the sport to be named after a school? That's bizarre, but most people don't know that.
"If you told them the story of William Webb Ellis and Rugby School and the 1800s, they'd go 'Huh?' But I remind them that rugby is football's father."
Indeed, it is rugby's greatest legacy in the US to have inadvertently given the world gridiron in the 19th Century - American football was developed from early variations of rugby.
So like two long-estranged brothers, the two sports could be about to cohabit again after a long separation.
But there's plenty of room for both. Football fans could turn to rugby, which is a summer sport in the US, in the off-season.
 

WelshBloke

Lifer
Jan 12, 2005
33,293
11,424
136
I'll be happy if we have any players capable of walking after playing Fiji and Samoa. :(
 

Cerpin Taxt

Lifer
Feb 23, 2005
11,940
542
126
A few clips from the opening ceremony and some post-game comments from Tonga and New Zealand:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhI-8au4bO0

You can actually get the full opening ceremony (which is actually pretty cool) in 4 parts:
Part 1 / Part 2 / Part 3 / Part 4

The two teams do their respective Haka's:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhI-8au4bO0http://youtu.be/tZtUYsvOXSU (link fixed)

I was pleased to see a return of the classic All Blacks Haka. Is it something they just brought back for the World Cup?
 
Last edited:
Oct 27, 2007
17,009
5
0
I was pleased to see a return of the classic All Blacks Haka. Is it something they just brought back for the World Cup?
The classic one is still the standard, they mostly do the new haka for big important games.

I wasn't aware that Tonga even had a haka until last night.
 

sdifox

No Lifer
Sep 30, 2005
100,776
18,050
126
err, whut? Canada is going to get creamed...
New Zealand
Canada
France
Japan
Tonga
 
Last edited:

sdifox

No Lifer
Sep 30, 2005
100,776
18,050
126
you haven't lived until you have been lifted off your feet from the back of your collar. And thrown away like a sack of potatoes.


yes, I experienced that in a game.
 

Cerpin Taxt

Lifer
Feb 23, 2005
11,940
542
126
How the Culture of Rugby Parlays Into Business, Workplace and Hiring Character

Submitted by SmartBrief Insights and Harvard Business Review Contributor: Baron Christopher Hanson

In 2010, the Wall Street Journal featured the magnanimous headline “Rugby Star Gets General Motors Out of a Scrum”. This must-read article explains how CFO Christopher Liddell prepared a $23 billion offering spanning three continents, 35 underwriting banks, and 90 promotional meetings to satisfy GM’s largest shareholder — the U.S. government.

I am not surprised. Christopher Liddell is a lifelong Rugby player.

Liddell left the CFO desk at Microsoft in January of 2010 to turnaround the ailing Detroit automaker. A distinctive quote from the WSJ article invites the thesis: “One of the disciplines Liddell learned as a Rugby player was the level of preparation you need to accomplish something great,” explains James Lee, vice chairman of underwriter J.P. Morgan Chase.

Hailing from New Zealand, Liddell holds a degree in engineering from the University of Auckland, and a master of philosophy from Oxford. Liddell served as Chairman of one of New Zealand's leading environmental protection groups, and was governor of the New Zealand Sports Foundation and director of the New Zealand Rugby Union. Liddell also completed the IronMan.

In my experience growing small and middle-market companies, CEOs and HR recruiters are now placing more emphasis on proven experience and durable character when hiring (or partnering with) top talent –– well beyond degrees and resumes alone. Workforce cultures today require diverse staff at all levels to “man-up” and face economic futures with less trepidation and more acceleration. The athletic culture and character of Rugby offers a fascinating lens to consider inside any workplace.

QUICK RUGBY PRIMER:
Adapted entrepreneurially from soccer in England in 1823, the sport’s popularity and gladiator-like training benefits spread like wildfire via military, diplomatic, and elite private school colonialism. Rugby did not begin gaining critical mass in America until the 1970s, around the time “the try heard round the world” was televised stateside.

Today most U.S. cities and universities have male and female Rugby teams.

Nearly the same field design as gridiron football, Rugby is a non-stop battle for possession of a live ball, which can never be passed or fumbled forward. The only way to advance the Rugby ball is to run or kick forward, passing laterally. Once tackled to the ground, players must release the ball so others on their feet can legally play on. The live ball designates a moving line of scrimmage parallel to each goal line, which helps govern visually chaotic Rugby matches for players and spectators.

Not unlike Lance Armstrong, Sully Sullenberger, Annika Sörenstam and Nelson Mandela, Rugby is becoming a brand for endurance, courage under pressure, dedication –– and forgiving animosity. Clint Eastwood's film "Invictus" is a must-see, especially during Rugby World Cup season.

Here’s how the culture of Rugby parlays into business, workplace and hiring character:

RUGBY IS DIVERSE:
The sport welcomes international men and women of all ages, backgrounds and races –– especially at top MBA, law, and military school teams worldwide. Contrary to popular belief, there is a position for every body style on a Rugby team. Similar to the way corporate cultures must diversify globally, Rugby brings ex-patriots and natives together to break down workplace barriers and speak a new athletic language anywhere.

RUGBY IS EXTREMELY CHALLENGING:
In today’s macro and micro workplaces, sheepishness and indecision financially set economies back millions by the minute. Beyond the obvious physical strength and stamina required, the mental intensity of Rugby trains players to fearlessly focus under extreme pressure, welcome any challenge, and see goals through to completion.

RUGBY REQUIRES SELF-CONTROL:
The rules of Rugby are somewhat complex by design. Lack of composure and discipline in the trenches can result in possession or points awarded to your opponent. The mental and physical control required on the job is considerable. At work, fatigue late in the game can be expensive to both customer and employer.

RUGBY REQUIRES THE WEARING OF MANY HATS:
Rugby has no time-outs, coaches calling in plays, or rested teams coming off/on/off the field. Offense, defense, and everything in between are 100% delegated to the players to decide for themselves on the pitch. The fifteen players (plus 3-4 injury reserves) taking the field must perform, communicate, and think as a tightly-knit unit for eighty raucous minutes.

RUGBY PLAYERS ARE UNAFRAID OF TACKLING ANY OPPORTUNITY:
When Chris Liddell considered leaving Microsoft for the GM position, 50% of the people he consulted first thought he was crazy. Liddell states: “Obviously a risky career move, taking the ailing automaker from going through bankruptcy towards one of the most interesting turnarounds of all time? You can’t ask for a better opportunity than that” (WSJ). If your company is looking to tackle new opportunities going forward, hire a Rugby player.

RUGBY PLAYERS CANNOT DEPEND ON BLOCKERS:
Unlike American football, blocking is illegal in Rugby. There are no players ahead of you clearing opponents out of the road. Rugby players must go man-to-man against their opponent, look them square in the eye, and listen for teammates behind them in support to carry the ball forward. It’s every Rugby player’s job to lead their team into new (market) space, pass the ball effectively under fire, then recycle themselves back into the fray after being tackled aggressively –– again and again and again and again.

RUGBY PLAYERS MUST EARN THEIR POSITION EACH WEEK:
Uncertainty is both uncomfortable and motivating. Ask any sales professional today. Rugby players know their selection to the first XV team each week depends on coach/captain assessments of their previous performance/stats and level of physical and mental fitness. There are no excuses. Only positive results can be parlayed. Salespeople and business owners understand this full well. They wake up everyday unemployed until face-to-face with customers, equipment, and new goals. Each week, Rugby players are out of a job unless they perform well each and every game day.

RUGBY PLAYERS KNOW THEIR POSITION COULD CHANGE AT ANYTIME:
Rugby players may be assigned to different positions at a moment’s notice, especially if a teammate is injured. Prima donnas are cut from the squad quickly. Cross training for multiple roles is mandatory in Rugby, as it should be inside every company. Start-ups, distressed turnarounds, and hiring managers looking to develop a multiple "hat-wearing" staff should remain on the lookout for resumes and CVs that include Rugby-playing and coaching experience.

RUGBY PLAYERS DO NOT HOLD GRUDGES:
Every locker room, workplace, political campaign, and boardroom has its trials, tribulations and tensions. Throughout the world, cultural differences and historical bad blood run long and deeply. The culture of Rugby offers an insightful solution for governments and leaders to parlay globally: After every Rugby match, opposing teams (often dressed in tie and blazer) have dinner and a few beers together, to shake hands as gentlemen and ladies.

Why? All bad blood from the match is left on the field. Rugby players embrace their rivals and competitors, and actually thank them for the match. In fact, opposing players often become great friends and career associates. Unheard of in soccer and football cultures, Rugby's sportsmanlike rituals are a major reason the culture and character of the sport is emerging mainstream in the United States.

RUGBY PLAYERS ARE BOTH HUMBLE AND PATRIOTIC:
Christopher Liddell likely cringed at the headline referring to him as a Rugby star. ”Not for glory nor for riches but for honor alone” is a popular banner waved at Rugby matches. In New Zealand, "the legacy you face is more intimidating than any opponent" is the All Black mantra. Akin to military units, Rugby players protect their mates on their right and their left.

Yet there is still something more. Being selected to play First XV or VII for your country is the ultimate accomplishment and honor for Rugby players. The jubilation is indescribable. It is no wonder then, for all these reasons above, when international rugby teams line up shoulder-to-shoulder to belt out their national anthems together, the look in their eyes and the raw passion in their hearts is indicative of the physical and mental preparation parlayed into their careers off the field.

If your organization is looking to tackle new opportunities and grow successfully going forward, consider sponsoring a Rugby team and hiring Rugby players.

http://www.rugbyrugby.com/news/feat..._into_business_workplace_and_hiring_character
 

Cerpin Taxt

Lifer
Feb 23, 2005
11,940
542
126
The USA Eagles suffered an unfortunate loss against Ireland on Sept. 11th. As almost all the commentators noted, the US defense was their strong point, but they struggled in their set pieces, especially the scrum. They also appeared to have a lot of difficulty defending the rolling Irish mauls. All-in-all the Eagles performed respectably, but they clearly have a lot of areas which need improvement if they hope to succeed against any of the usual international powerhouses.

On the 15th, USA will go up against Russia, which will certainly be a good game to watch as the teams are more evenly matched. The match will be televised on Universal Sports, live at 3:15am (Eastern) and it will re-air at 8pm (Eastern).
 
Last edited:

CPA

Elite Member
Nov 19, 2001
30,322
4
0
The USA Eagles suffered an unfortunate loss against Ireland on Sept. 11th. As almost all the commentators noted, the US defense was their strong point, but they struggled in their set pieces, especially the scrum. They also appeared to have a lot of difficulty defending the rolling Irish mauls. All-in-all the Eagles performed respectably, but they clearly have a lot of areas which need improvement if they hope to succeed against any of the usual international powerhouses.

On the 15th, USA will go up against Russia, which will certainly be a good game to watch as the teams are more evenly matched. The match will be televised on Universal Sports, live at 3:15am (Eastern) and it will re-air at 8pm (Eastern).

Watched that game and the USA got killed on the scrum. At one point, the Irish almost took the scrum into the goal from 20 meters out! The Irish just pushed the Americans around in the scrum. That said, I thought US's defense was very good, but they couldn't do anything when they had the ball, too many bobbles and it just didn't seem like they could get any flow developed. Their one try came at the end of the game when they stole a pass and took it in untouched.
 

Cerpin Taxt

Lifer
Feb 23, 2005
11,940
542
126
Watched that game and the USA got killed on the scrum. At one point, the Irish almost took the scrum into the goal from 20 meters out! The Irish just pushed the Americans around in the scrum.
At the very start of the match, they displayed the collective weights of each pack, which were 901kg (USA) and 902kg (Ire). Clearly it wasn't strictly a size advantage, although mid-game Ireland did bring on the largest front rower registered to play in the World Cup, weighing in (IIRC) at something like 280lbs.

That said, I thought US's defense was very good, but they couldn't do anything when they had the ball, too many bobbles and it just didn't seem like they could get any flow developed. Their one try came at the end of the game when they stole a pass and took it in untouched.
The rain and resulting wet ball didn't help either team with their handling, and I think Ireland actually stacked up a greater number of handling errors in the 2nd half. Still, the USA offense left a lot to be desired.
 

Ancalagon44

Diamond Member
Feb 17, 2010
3,274
202
106
Wow not very popular on these forums!

Did anyone watch the close game between South Africa and Namibia? 87-0! ha ha!
 

Cerpin Taxt

Lifer
Feb 23, 2005
11,940
542
126
The USA Eagles face a very important match vs Italy tonight (er, tomorrow or whatever, damn international date line...). It will be televised live and publicly on Universal Sports at 2:30AM eastern time. I'm sure there will be a replay or two shown at more USA-friendly times.

You can actually watch replays of all the games online here:

http://www.rugbyworldcup.com/video/index.html

Just select "Replay" for the video type, and select your team if you'd like to narrow the search more.

Also, for fun, here is a brief video on some simple rules of rugby:

(NSFW) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rz31VhUEoA&feature=share (NSFW)

:cool: :cool: :cool:
 

Cerpin Taxt

Lifer
Feb 23, 2005
11,940
542
126
QUARTERFINALS ARE UNDERWAY!! :cool:

Two pretty big upsets last night. Wales overtook Ireland and France defeated England.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFD5AQngvaM

See the replays of each game at the link in previous post.

Tonight New Zealand takes on Argentina and South Africa faces off against Australia. Should be a couple of good games.
 

Cerpin Taxt

Lifer
Feb 23, 2005
11,940
542
126
*smugface*

Hahaha! :D I've gotta hand it to those Welsh lads. They played very well, particularly on defense within 5 meters of their try line. The Irish were knocking on their door again and again, but they kept them at bay very well.

We watched the match at an Irish pub that is a major donor to our rugby club. Suffice it to say that there was much lamenting and disappointment that night.

A teammate of mine used to play with the London Irish, and he remarked that the Irish and Welsh teams actually have a pretty healthy mutual respect for one another -- as if to say there was no other team they'd rather lose to. He did bring a leek to the pub that night for a Welsh friend of his, though. He wanted to make him eat it were the Irish to win. :) I don't know if he wound up having to eat it himself or not.
 
Last edited:

WelshBloke

Lifer
Jan 12, 2005
33,293
11,424
136
Hahaha! :D I've gotta hand it to those Welsh lads. They played very well, particularly on defense within 5 meters of their try line. The Irish were knocking on their door again and again, but they kept them at bay very well.s

We watched the match at an Irish pub that is a major donor to our rugby club. Suffice it to say that there was much lamenting and disappointment that night.

I teammate of mine used to play with the London Irish, and he remarked that the Irish and Welsh teams actually have a pretty healthy mutual respect for one another -- as if to say there was no other team they'd rather lose to. He did bring a leek to the pub that night for a Welsh friend of his. He wanted to make him eat it were the Irish to win. :) I don't know if he wound up having to eat himself or not, though.


This is true. Wales v Ireland matches in Cardiff are fantastic, the whole city gets pissed!