***Official Reviews Thread*** Nvidia Geforce GTX Titan - Launched Feb. 21, 2013

[f1sherman]

These guys are going to save our sorry asses from FPS based reviews. OFC HardwareCanucks is showing another completely different story for the GTX 690.

FPS alone is a very crude metric so many are adopting frame-time statistics and that's great :thumbsup:
Yet even frametimes are not telling the whole story.

PCPER idea of video-capture is by far the most comprehensive approach.
No stone will be left unturned. It's benchmarking done right!
A bit disappointing that they didn't develop their methodology in time for Titan's launch.

 

[Lepton87]

Yes Lepton. I'm observing your ever growing list about how Titan is pathetic. Although I dont think that is what is pathetic.

Maybe you're comfortable with such artificial limitations on a card that costs 1000$ but I expected a card with no compromises for that price point, yet it's riddled with compromises. I really wanted a single card that's close in raw performance to my current cards, that's why I'm so disappointed in that card. Either give me a no-compromises card at an insane price or price it in the realm of sanity (MSRP 700$ tops). I really wanted to buy that card but I can't justify spending 1000EU for something like this.

 

[MrK6]

Maybe you're comfortable with such artificial limitations on a card that costs 1000$ but I expected a card with no compromises for that price point, yet it's riddled with compromises. I really wanted a single card that's close in raw performance to my current cards, that's why I'm so disappointed in that card. Either give me a no-compromises card at an insane price or price it in the realm of sanity (MSRP 700$ tops). I really wanted to buy that card but I can't justify spending 1000EU for something like this.

Your common sense and logical assumptions are making it difficult for the nvidia shills to promote their marketing agenda. Stop it.

 

[sontin]

Maybe you're comfortable with such artificial limitations on a card that costs 1000$ but I expected a card with no compromises for that price point, yet it's riddled with compromises. I really wanted a single card that's close in raw performance to my current cards, that's why I'm so disappointed in that card. Either give me a no-compromises card at an insane price or price it in the realm of sanity (MSRP 700$ tops). I really wanted to buy that card but I can't justify spending 1000EU for something like this.

What? A TITAN is much better than a tri-AFR-CF system. TITAN alone is 30-50% faster than the 6990 and a third card only adding 50% more performance in the best case.

I guess you are not "so disappointed" because TITAN is " close in raw performance to [your] current cards".

 

[chimaxi83]

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[JM Popaleetus]

I'm wondering if "TITAN" will just be a permanent halo-card slot, refreshed with every generation.

Explains why it doesn't have any 600/700 identifiers and didn't affect the 690.

 

[chimaxi83]

That is nVidia reference plattform. AIBs can change the settings.

No they can't. Try reading some of the reviews. From AT review:

Finally, as with the GTX 680 and GTX 690, NVIDIA will be keeping tight control over what Asus, EVGA, and their other partners release. Those partners will have the option to release Titan cards with factory overclocks and Titan cards with different coolers (i.e. water blocks), but they won’t be able to expose direct voltage control or ship parts with higher voltages. Nor for that matter will they be able to create Titan cards with significantly different designs (i.e. more VRM phases); every Titan card will be a variant on the reference design.

Sounds like that means no Lightnings, no Direct Cu IIs, no Classifieds. All Titan owners will basically have the same card.

 

[notty22]

Cool Video.
Kingpin o/c GTX Titan on air.
Cpu is on LN2
KingPin with GeForce GTX Titan





edit: added
NVIDIA GeForce GTX Titan Clocked to 1136 MHz on Air Cooling
The first record is by far the most impressive where KingPin achieved a record overclock of Quad GeForce GTX Titan’s at 1136 MHz core frequency on air. This goes off to show the impressive O.C potential of the new GK110 chips which some people had doubted at first. With this record overclock on air, a score of X18554 was achieved on 3DMark 11 extreme preset which is a world record itself.

Read more: http://wccftech.com/kingpin-achieve...tx-titan-air-hits-1750-mhz-ln2/#ixzz2LdvEd54g
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[AdamK47]

Only 1136MHz on air? I'm sure this guy overclocks simply for the benchmark scores. That doesn't bode well for 24/7 stable overclocks.

 

[wand3r3r]

That's pretty weak. For a record nonetheless.

Halo card indeed, the only halo is the price.

Apparently overclocking it is a myth too, it hit around 1000 stock.

 

[Keysplayr]

Only 1136MHz on air? I'm sure this guy overclocks simply for the benchmark scores. That doesn't bode well for 24/7 stable overclocks.

Wait, what was the base stock clocks again?

 

[AdamK47]

Wait, what was the base stock clocks again?

A laughable 837MHz.

 

[Lepton87]

What? A TITAN is much better than a tri-AFR-CF system. TITAN alone is 30-50% faster than the 6990 and a third card only adding 50% more performance in the best case.

I guess you are not "so disappointed" because TITAN is " close in raw performance to [your] current cards".

Quad not TRI

 

[Keysplayr]

Your common sense and logical assumptions are making it difficult for the nvidia shills to promote their marketing agenda. Stop it.

Oh sorry guys. I'll just shoot back and watch you formulate all your arguments on the basis of price. Cause that's pretty much all you have and looking forward to the never ending campaign from your group based completely on price. This of course after everything on these board has already acknowledged that the price is way too high. But please, continue.

 

[notty22]

A laughable 837MHz.

And the quad Titan system on air, beat the record of 4 Gtx 680's on LN2@ 1830mhz. Regardless no one is running LN2 to accomplish gaming or benchmarking at home. I think?

 

[AdamK47]

My point was that people will set their expectations too high when they read how this guy hit 1136MHz on air. He's known to run at unstable clocks just for benchmark scores. Realistically, people are going to run much lower than that for 100% stable (stress tested) overclocks on air.

 

[Lepton87]

Oh sorry guys. I'll just shoot back and watch you formulate all your arguments on the basis of price. Cause that's pretty much all you have and looking forward to the never ending campaign from your group based completely on price. This of course after everything on these board has already acknowledged that the price is way too high. But please, continue.

My complaints about GTX TITAN are not only about the price. No full control for voltages and TDP limit of just 265Watts, only 6pin+8pin, no to mention power circuitry leaving a lot to be desired. OV headroom is laughable. You basically need to hardware mod this card very heavily to get good OC results. Ever since Kepler we see a great regression in that area. All you should need to do to OC that card on LN2 should be to insulate the card and switch LN2 mode. No hardware modding should be required for that price. What if AMD released a faster single GPU card at 3000$, would you still use the same arguments? I guess not, all AMD had to do is to increase the prices to their historical levels to get a much bigger backlash. NV is really becoming like apple in GF cards, they can release cheap PCBs, block most of overclocking, make the card look shiny and people are still ecstatic about that card. Do I really want too much for a single card that retails for a cool grand? Full OV/OC/TDP control and power circuitry at least on par with MSI LIGHTINGs cards that sell for 2x less then this.

Your common sense and logical assumptions are making it difficult for the nvidia shills to promote their marketing agenda. Stop it.

You're right, no point in discussing those things, since GTX590 PCB quality is irrelevant for nv fanboys, no matter the price.

 

[Termie]

My point was that people will set their expectations too high when they read how this guy hit 1136MHz on air. He's known to run at unstable clocks just for benchmark scores. Realistically, people are going to run much lower than that for 100% stable (stress tested) overclocks on air.

But that's a quad SLI air-cooled setup. The heat generated by that system would certainly limit overclocks versus a single card. Most of the reviewers were in the low to mid-1100s, so 1136MHz isn't a stand-out OC, but it is for 4 Titans in the same system.

 

[brandon888]

Can anyone tell me when 700 series will come ? PLEASEEEEEEEEEEE !!!! no 700 series till Q4 2013 ???

about titan .. grat card but tttttttttooo overpriced ....

 

[Keysplayr]

Your common sense and logical assumptions are making it difficult for the nvidia shills to promote their marketing agenda. Stop it.

Oh sorry guys. I'll just shoot back and watch you formulate all your arguments on the basis of price. Cause that's pretty much all you have and looking forward to the never ending campaign from your group based completely on price. This of course after everything on these board has already acknowledged that the price is way too high. But please, continue.

P.S. typing on phones stinks.

 

[Granseth]

Can we assume that KingPin had a custom BIOS without the TDP and temperature limits?

If so, maybe this will be great when custom bioses will become available. And of course when the price comes down to something a little more reasonable.

 

[f1sherman]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qsuvlg8cuWA

 

[notty22]

Can we assume that KingPin had a custom BIOS without the TDP and temperature limits?

If so, maybe this will be great when custom bioses will become available. And of course when the price comes down to something a little more reasonable.

No, I believe they were all stock. That was the point. A baseline. There will be volt mods to come* , and then volt mods and LN2 combined.
* edit: I imagine.

 

[VulgarDisplay]

Oh sorry guys. I'll just shoot back and watch you formulate all your arguments on the basis of price. Cause that's pretty much all you have and looking forward to the never ending campaign from your group based completely on price. This of course after everything on these board has already acknowledged that the price is way too high. But please, continue.

P.S. typing on phones stinks.

The reason everyone is harping on the price is because Titan is a great card. No one is disputing that fact. Even though it's a great it can still be a joke based on its price.

Everyone that was up in arms over the 7970 release price made the same arguments, but the 7970 was priced correctly for the performance you got in comparison to its competition. If those same people refuse to see that Titan is a bust at $1000 then they are only confirming that they have alterior motives.

 

[Granseth]

No, I believe they were all stock. That was the point. A baseline. There will be volt mods to come* , and then volt mods and LN2 combined.
* edit: I imagine.

He did some records with LN2 as well

http://hwbot.org/newsflash/1924_geforce_gtx_titan_takes_control___day_1_10_records.

Edit:

, the now Taiwan-based USA overclocker has been working closely with Nvidia for a while now, both on product launches as well as extreme OC BIOS development and setting benchmark records.

Seems like he has a not so restricted bios as well.