Originally posted by: Ilmater
OK, from the first half:
#1 How does Mike Vick deserve to be there? He was the 25th-rated QB in the league, and his innaccuracy is OBVIOUS. I saw him make that throw to Fitz. He made the catch with THREE defenders around him. That was a terrible place to throw the ball. Shortly thereafter he threw a terrible pass that was picked off. He clearly overthrew that receiver, and it was an easy pick after that. Then he threw an alright pass to Holt - to be fair - but Bailey was all over Holt. Had he thrown it outside more, Holt would have had a TD. Then, for a TD, he threw an absolutely ABYSMAL pass to Alge Crumpler. Crumpler only caught it because he was able to knock it towards himself with one hand and then bring it in. Way to go Alge. You suck Mike.
<--- Admitted Rams fan here
Vick would've definately deserved to be in the Pro Bowl if he played the Rams more often... he runs all over you guys.
Sore loser? He surely didnt sound like one when I heard him talk with a reporter during the pro bowl.
Originally posted by: Ilmater
#2 Fvck Matt Hasselbeck. He was asked by Suzy what it was like to play with the likes of Holt, Smith, and Moss, and what's his answer? "Well, it was great to play with those guys, especially Steve and Santana. They're just incredible players," or something to that effect. Screw him. Holt is the best receiver of the three, and he's leaps and bounds above Moss who has decent hands and speed and that's it. His routes are only average, and he will never win a jump ball in his life.
<--- Admitted Rams fan here
Steve Smith was unstoppable this year, plus he led his team deep in the playoffs. Did the Rams even make it?
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Granted...he has enormous amount of experience. But i like the others better for skill (by no means am i implying that he doesn't have talent...because he does)
There are some passes Moss catches that ihave never been able to understand.
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Im a sports nut. S/N for AIM is Sportsphreek(and 2 numbers). I can recite stats of almost any NFL, College FB, MLB today. Im liking Basketball, but i just started watching so i cant comment on NCAA BB, and NBA. Golf is pretty nice too. SO as you can see, i love sports.
In fact, this is the first year i didn't pay full attention to the Superbowl. The girl i want to ask to prom was there, and while she tried to pay attention, i had to keep the "party" (Youth Group Super Bowl Party) alive (humor...). *Sigh* Girls do things to ya....
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Originally posted by: Ilmater
OK, from the first half:
#1 How does Mike Vick deserve to be there? He was the 25th-rated QB in the league, and his innaccuracy is OBVIOUS. I saw him make that throw to Fitz. He made the catch with THREE defenders around him. That was a terrible place to throw the ball. Shortly thereafter he threw a terrible pass that was picked off. He clearly overthrew that receiver, and it was an easy pick after that. Then he threw an alright pass to Holt - to be fair - but Bailey was all over Holt. Had he thrown it outside more, Holt would have had a TD. Then, for a TD, he threw an absolutely ABYSMAL pass to Alge Crumpler. Crumpler only caught it because he was able to knock it towards himself with one hand and then bring it in. Way to go Alge. You suck Mike.
#2 Fvck Matt Hasselbeck. He was asked by Suzy what it was like to play with the likes of Holt, Smith, and Moss, and what's his answer? "Well, it was great to play with those guys, especially Steve and Santana. They're just incredible players," or something to that effect. Screw him. Holt is the best receiver of the three, and he's leaps and bounds above Moss who has decent hands and speed and that's it. His routes are only average, and he will never win a jump ball in his life.
<--- Admitted Rams fan here
Torry Holt chokes in the playoffs. His stats are the suck.
10 games
47 catches
630 yards
4 td's
I think you are confused. Holt is more skilled, but Moss and Smith have more potential and are talented physically.
Originally posted by: realsup
Originally posted by: Ilmater
OK, from the first half:
#1 How does Mike Vick deserve to be there? He was the 25th-rated QB in the league, and his innaccuracy is OBVIOUS. I saw him make that throw to Fitz. He made the catch with THREE defenders around him. That was a terrible place to throw the ball. Shortly thereafter he threw a terrible pass that was picked off. He clearly overthrew that receiver, and it was an easy pick after that. Then he threw an alright pass to Holt - to be fair - but Bailey was all over Holt. Had he thrown it outside more, Holt would have had a TD. Then, for a TD, he threw an absolutely ABYSMAL pass to Alge Crumpler. Crumpler only caught it because he was able to knock it towards himself with one hand and then bring it in. Way to go Alge. You suck Mike.
#2 Fvck Matt Hasselbeck. He was asked by Suzy what it was like to play with the likes of Holt, Smith, and Moss, and what's his answer? "Well, it was great to play with those guys, especially Steve and Santana. They're just incredible players," or something to that effect. Screw him. Holt is the best receiver of the three, and he's leaps and bounds above Moss who has decent hands and speed and that's it. His routes are only average, and he will never win a jump ball in his life.
<--- Admitted Rams fan here
Torry Holt chokes in the playoffs. His stats are the suck.
10 games
47 catches
630 yards
4 td's
Do you know something I don't? Last time I checked, a receiver does not have the ability to catch a ball that is not thrown to him, especially if he is not in the game. A receiver does not choke unless he drops balls when he should have caught them and that is exactly the thing that Holt is known for NOT doing.
Originally posted by: Excelsior
Originally posted by: realsup
Originally posted by: Ilmater
OK, from the first half:
#1 How does Mike Vick deserve to be there? He was the 25th-rated QB in the league, and his innaccuracy is OBVIOUS. I saw him make that throw to Fitz. He made the catch with THREE defenders around him. That was a terrible place to throw the ball. Shortly thereafter he threw a terrible pass that was picked off. He clearly overthrew that receiver, and it was an easy pick after that. Then he threw an alright pass to Holt - to be fair - but Bailey was all over Holt. Had he thrown it outside more, Holt would have had a TD. Then, for a TD, he threw an absolutely ABYSMAL pass to Alge Crumpler. Crumpler only caught it because he was able to knock it towards himself with one hand and then bring it in. Way to go Alge. You suck Mike.
#2 Fvck Matt Hasselbeck. He was asked by Suzy what it was like to play with the likes of Holt, Smith, and Moss, and what's his answer? "Well, it was great to play with those guys, especially Steve and Santana. They're just incredible players," or something to that effect. Screw him. Holt is the best receiver of the three, and he's leaps and bounds above Moss who has decent hands and speed and that's it. His routes are only average, and he will never win a jump ball in his life.
<--- Admitted Rams fan here
Torry Holt chokes in the playoffs. His stats are the suck.
10 games
47 catches
630 yards
4 td's
Do you know something I don't? Last time I checked, a receiver does not have the ability to catch a ball that is not thrown to him, especially if he is not in the game. A receiver does not choke unless he drops balls when he should have caught them and that is exactly the thing that Holt is known for NOT doing.
MAybe he should try to get open to catch more passes in the playoffs. Like Steve Smith.
And the Royals make everyone look like a Hall of Fame candidate. That doesn't mean they are.Originally posted by: Shlong
Originally posted by: Ilmater
OK, from the first half:
#1 How does Mike Vick deserve to be there? He was the 25th-rated QB in the league, and his innaccuracy is OBVIOUS. I saw him make that throw to Fitz. He made the catch with THREE defenders around him. That was a terrible place to throw the ball. Shortly thereafter he threw a terrible pass that was picked off. He clearly overthrew that receiver, and it was an easy pick after that. Then he threw an alright pass to Holt - to be fair - but Bailey was all over Holt. Had he thrown it outside more, Holt would have had a TD. Then, for a TD, he threw an absolutely ABYSMAL pass to Alge Crumpler. Crumpler only caught it because he was able to knock it towards himself with one hand and then bring it in. Way to go Alge. You suck Mike.
<--- Admitted Rams fan here
Vick would've definately deserved to be in the Pro Bowl if he played the Rams more often... he runs all over you guys.
If you can't see that Vick's a pathetic QB, I can't help you.
Did you see the quote? Him playing against them had nothing to do with his comments, it was all about playing with them this week. And if he's just complimenting people on good games, surely he can remember the three stellar games he played against the Rams last year when we beat them - twice in their own house.
Then again, maybe he blocked those out.
I agree that Smith was amazing this year, but given that Holt has put up incredible numbers for years now, it's ridiculous not to give him his due. Both of them are leaps and bounds above Moss, and he got mentioned above Holt.Originally posted by: tfinch2
Originally posted by: Ilmater
#2 Fvck Matt Hasselbeck. He was asked by Suzy what it was like to play with the likes of Holt, Smith, and Moss, and what's his answer? "Well, it was great to play with those guys, especially Steve and Santana. They're just incredible players," or something to that effect. Screw him. Holt is the best receiver of the three, and he's leaps and bounds above Moss who has decent hands and speed and that's it. His routes are only average, and he will never win a jump ball in his life.
<--- Admitted Rams fan here
Steve Smith was unstoppable this year, plus he led his team deep in the playoffs. Did the Rams even make it?
If you're going to actually try to make that argument, you'd better try harder than that. That averages out to 4.7 catches for 63 yards and less than 1 TD per game. Not stellar, but not what I would consider "choking."
Give me a break. Prove it. I'd like to know two things: who is your favorite team, and how many people have ever agreed with you on that statement. I frequent all the Rams' message boards, and they are CONSTANTLY knocking players. Never once have I heard this from anyone. I haven't even heard that from my numerous friends that hate the Rams that are just dying to talk trash about them.
Originally posted by: realsup
Originally posted by: Excelsior
Originally posted by: realsup
Originally posted by: Ilmater
OK, from the first half:
#1 How does Mike Vick deserve to be there? He was the 25th-rated QB in the league, and his innaccuracy is OBVIOUS. I saw him make that throw to Fitz. He made the catch with THREE defenders around him. That was a terrible place to throw the ball. Shortly thereafter he threw a terrible pass that was picked off. He clearly overthrew that receiver, and it was an easy pick after that. Then he threw an alright pass to Holt - to be fair - but Bailey was all over Holt. Had he thrown it outside more, Holt would have had a TD. Then, for a TD, he threw an absolutely ABYSMAL pass to Alge Crumpler. Crumpler only caught it because he was able to knock it towards himself with one hand and then bring it in. Way to go Alge. You suck Mike.
#2 Fvck Matt Hasselbeck. He was asked by Suzy what it was like to play with the likes of Holt, Smith, and Moss, and what's his answer? "Well, it was great to play with those guys, especially Steve and Santana. They're just incredible players," or something to that effect. Screw him. Holt is the best receiver of the three, and he's leaps and bounds above Moss who has decent hands and speed and that's it. His routes are only average, and he will never win a jump ball in his life.
<--- Admitted Rams fan here
Torry Holt chokes in the playoffs. His stats are the suck.
10 games
47 catches
630 yards
4 td's
Do you know something I don't? Last time I checked, a receiver does not have the ability to catch a ball that is not thrown to him, especially if he is not in the game. A receiver does not choke unless he drops balls when he should have caught them and that is exactly the thing that Holt is known for NOT doing.
MAybe he should try to get open to catch more passes in the playoffs. Like Steve Smith.
Maybe you should stop acting like you know anything about the NFL. I am a Panthers fan, but sh!t, look what happened in the NFC champion ship game. Smith was SHUTDOWN.
Originally posted by: Excelsior
Originally posted by: realsup
Originally posted by: Excelsior
Originally posted by: realsup
Originally posted by: Ilmater
OK, from the first half:
#1 How does Mike Vick deserve to be there? He was the 25th-rated QB in the league, and his innaccuracy is OBVIOUS. I saw him make that throw to Fitz. He made the catch with THREE defenders around him. That was a terrible place to throw the ball. Shortly thereafter he threw a terrible pass that was picked off. He clearly overthrew that receiver, and it was an easy pick after that. Then he threw an alright pass to Holt - to be fair - but Bailey was all over Holt. Had he thrown it outside more, Holt would have had a TD. Then, for a TD, he threw an absolutely ABYSMAL pass to Alge Crumpler. Crumpler only caught it because he was able to knock it towards himself with one hand and then bring it in. Way to go Alge. You suck Mike.
#2 Fvck Matt Hasselbeck. He was asked by Suzy what it was like to play with the likes of Holt, Smith, and Moss, and what's his answer? "Well, it was great to play with those guys, especially Steve and Santana. They're just incredible players," or something to that effect. Screw him. Holt is the best receiver of the three, and he's leaps and bounds above Moss who has decent hands and speed and that's it. His routes are only average, and he will never win a jump ball in his life.
<--- Admitted Rams fan here
Torry Holt chokes in the playoffs. His stats are the suck.
10 games
47 catches
630 yards
4 td's
Do you know something I don't? Last time I checked, a receiver does not have the ability to catch a ball that is not thrown to him, especially if he is not in the game. A receiver does not choke unless he drops balls when he should have caught them and that is exactly the thing that Holt is known for NOT doing.
MAybe he should try to get open to catch more passes in the playoffs. Like Steve Smith.
Maybe you should stop acting like you know anything about the NFL. I am a Panthers fan, but sh!t, look what happened in the NFC champion ship game. Smith was SHUTDOWN.
Steve Smith 7 playoff games
45 catches
739 yards
6 touchdowns 7 if you count rushing stats.
Who else did Seattle have to shutdown on the Panthers anyways?
Originally posted by: realsup
Originally posted by: Excelsior
Originally posted by: realsup
Originally posted by: Excelsior
Originally posted by: realsup
Originally posted by: Ilmater
OK, from the first half:
#1 How does Mike Vick deserve to be there? He was the 25th-rated QB in the league, and his innaccuracy is OBVIOUS. I saw him make that throw to Fitz. He made the catch with THREE defenders around him. That was a terrible place to throw the ball. Shortly thereafter he threw a terrible pass that was picked off. He clearly overthrew that receiver, and it was an easy pick after that. Then he threw an alright pass to Holt - to be fair - but Bailey was all over Holt. Had he thrown it outside more, Holt would have had a TD. Then, for a TD, he threw an absolutely ABYSMAL pass to Alge Crumpler. Crumpler only caught it because he was able to knock it towards himself with one hand and then bring it in. Way to go Alge. You suck Mike.
#2 Fvck Matt Hasselbeck. He was asked by Suzy what it was like to play with the likes of Holt, Smith, and Moss, and what's his answer? "Well, it was great to play with those guys, especially Steve and Santana. They're just incredible players," or something to that effect. Screw him. Holt is the best receiver of the three, and he's leaps and bounds above Moss who has decent hands and speed and that's it. His routes are only average, and he will never win a jump ball in his life.
<--- Admitted Rams fan here
Torry Holt chokes in the playoffs. His stats are the suck.
10 games
47 catches
630 yards
4 td's
Do you know something I don't? Last time I checked, a receiver does not have the ability to catch a ball that is not thrown to him, especially if he is not in the game. A receiver does not choke unless he drops balls when he should have caught them and that is exactly the thing that Holt is known for NOT doing.
MAybe he should try to get open to catch more passes in the playoffs. Like Steve Smith.
Maybe you should stop acting like you know anything about the NFL. I am a Panthers fan, but sh!t, look what happened in the NFC champion ship game. Smith was SHUTDOWN.
Steve Smith 7 playoff games
45 catches
739 yards
6 touchdowns 7 if you count rushing stats.
Who else did Seattle have to shutdown on the Panthers anyways?
So you agree that he got shutdown in the championship game..that be was a non-factor...that he couldn't get open to catch passes. Thanks.
Oh, and the Rams also have Bruce and during those playoff games he was a very integral part of the offense, therefore Holt was not thrown to as often as Smith was. Remember, the 2nd receiver for the Panthers was Proehl...not quite the same situation that St. Louis was in.
I don't know why you like Smith so much that it is clouding your mind, but you need to give it up.
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