Official Playstation 5 thread

[MoragaBlue]

I was just asking if you guys think there are good games to pick up.

I can buy an SSD on Amazon right now or wait for a sale or I can just delete and reload games as necessary. Easy problem to fix or work around, since these days my internet connection is fast enough where reloading 100s of gigabyte games is a small matter.

 

[jpiniero]

What's the general consensus; if you don't already have a PS5, wait 3 years for PS6?

Def don't spend the extra money on a Pro.

 

[purbeast0]

I was just asking if you guys think there are good games to pick up.

I can buy an SSD on Amazon right now or wait for a sale or I can just delete and reload games as necessary. Easy problem to fix or work around, since these days my internet connection is fast enough where reloading 100s of gigabyte games is a small matter.

Again, and not trying to be a dick either, this is something only you can decide.

Just take a look at the library and see if there are any games you think are worth picking one up for.

Me personally, all I play is my PS5 and Switch. The one console that gets no play at all is XSX.

Street Fighter 6 is my favorite game and I play it a few times a week on PS5, although it can be found on any platform.

 

[SteveGrabowski]

I was just asking if you guys think there are good games to pick up.

I can buy an SSD on Amazon right now or wait for a sale or I can just delete and reload games as necessary. Easy problem to fix or work around, since these days my internet connection is fast enough where reloading 100s of gigabyte games is a small matter.

If you're looking to grab an SSD I'd do in these BF sales if you find any decent deal; AI datacenters about to completely wreck SSD prices. Though personally I'm fine with the 825GB on the OG PS5 and just delete games I'm done with.

 

[SteveGrabowski]

What's the general consensus; if you don't already have a PS5, wait 3 years for PS6?

Are you dying to play Ghost of Yotei, the Demon's Souls remaster, Astros Playroom, or Gran Turismo? Or really hyped for the Wolverine game? Sounds like Playstation might not bring exclusives to Steam going forward with Steam effectively launching a console so those are probably stuck on PS5, but most of their best games other than those are on PC now.

 

[zinfamous]

Def don't spend the extra money on a Pro.

Why is that?

 

[MoragaBlue]

Are you dying to play Ghost of Yotei, the Demon's Souls remaster, Astros Playroom, or Gran Turismo? Or really hyped for the Wolverine game? Sounds like Playstation might not bring exclusives to Steam going forward with Steam effectively launching a console so those are probably stuck on PS5, but most of their best games other than those are on PC now.

Buy now or wait for the PS6 is a tough one. I suppose, wait for the PS6 if it'll be here in about 18 months? Otherwise, I'd just pick up a PS5.

Regarding exclusives, while I suspect the general consensus amongst gamers is that exclusives are generally bad and should be purged; however, in my view, from Sony's perspective, I don't think it's that black or white. Exclusives will invariably drive some gamers to buy their consoles (I more or less picked up the PS5 for Bloodborne), and once gamers have the console, they'll buy games on the Sony store. There are just some games where the PC port is so problematic, it's better to play on the console.

I'm primarily a PC gamer, but I've enjoyed my time with the PS5 immensely and find it money well spent, even after Bloodborne. Even if the Steam Machine takes the world by storm and I end up picking one up, there are still games where if it's better on the console, I'll buy it and play on the console.

 

[SteveGrabowski]

Why is that?

Pretty inconsistent game support. It was marketed as having your cake and eating it too by getting performance mode framerates with graphics mode resolution and RT settings but it hasn't really been too well optimized for. I think it was the new MGS where the worst version of the game to play was the one for PS5 Pro as they sacrificed a boatload performance for slightly better visuals to the point base PS5 was considered the better experience. For me it would end up an $880 console too because I'd need to pay $100 extra for the blu-ray drive, as physical game prices are way better the first two years a game is out, and then another ricockulous $30 for the stupid vertical stand as the PS5 is way too chunky to put it horizontally on my desk.

 

[jpiniero]

Why is that?

The lack of the CPU upgrade greatly hurts the potential of it.

 

[marees]

Buy now or wait for the PS6 is a tough one. I suppose, wait for the PS6 if it'll be here in about 18 months? Otherwise, I'd just pick up a PS5.

Regarding exclusives, while I suspect the general consensus amongst gamers is that exclusives are generally bad and should be purged; however, in my view, from Sony's perspective, I don't think it's that black or white. Exclusives will invariably drive some gamers to buy their consoles (I more or less picked up the PS5 for Bloodborne), and once gamers have the console, they'll buy games on the Sony store. There are just some games where the PC port is so problematic, it's better to play on the console.

I'm primarily a PC gamer, but I've enjoyed my time with the PS5 immensely and find it money well spent, even after Bloodborne. Even if the Steam Machine takes the world by storm and I end up picking one up, there are still games where if it's better on the console, I'll buy it and play on the console.

I expect PS6 to be delayed (due to price concerns). Have to secure TSMC 3nm & GDDR7 contracts at affordable rates. Should be 2028 or later

 

[MoragaBlue]

I expect PS6 to be delayed (due to price concerns). Have to secure TSMC 3nm & GDDR7 contracts at affordable rates. Should be 2028 or later

That's too long, I'd pick one up now and start playing. We cross the PS6 bridge when we get there.

 

[SteveGrabowski]

The lack of the CPU upgrade greatly hurts the potential of it.

Are there many games other than Baldur's Gate 3 that have trouble hitting 60 fps because of the cpu in the PS5?

 

[jpiniero]

Are there many games other than Baldur's Gate 3 that have trouble hitting 60 fps because of the cpu in the PS5?

GTA 6

 

[SteveGrabowski]

GTA 6

Yeah that'll be 30 fps for sure. GTA V was pretty heavily cpu+RAM bound come to think of it. The PC port I actually got big increases to my minimums by swapping DDR3-1600 to DDR3-2400 with a Xeon E3-1231v3 and a GTX 970. My framerates would start dropping into the low 50s and high 40s on the DDR3-1600 kit when driving in that redwood forest on the north side of the island but once I swapped to DDR3-2400 it stayed 60 fps the whole time.

 

[MoragaBlue]

Yeah that'll be 30 fps for sure. GTA V was pretty heavily cpu+RAM bound come to think of it. The PC port I actually got big increases to my minimums by swapping DDR3-1600 to DDR3-2400 with a Xeon E3-1231v3 and a GTX 970. My framerates would start dropping into the low 50s and high 40s on the DDR3-1600 kit when driving in that redwood forest on the north side of the island but once I swapped to DDR3-2400 it stayed 60 fps the whole time.

So, GTA 6 is going to be time console exclusive?

Assuming that's the case, Rockstar probably would better served if their delay coincides with at least the PS6 or Xbox Magnus launches, or at least one of them. While it isn't necessarily, I suspect there are many GTA 6 aficionados who would gladly upgrade their hardware for their favorite game. To wit: in my case, if there's ever a Bloodborne 2 (highly unlikely), I'll buy the hardware necessary at whatever the cost to maximize the play experience.

 

[SteveGrabowski]

So, GTA 6 is going to be time console exclusive?

Assuming that's the case, Rockstar probably would better served if their delay coincides with at least the PS6 or Xbox Magnus launches, or at least one of them. While it isn't necessarily, I suspect there are many GTA 6 aficionados who would gladly upgrade their hardware for their favorite game. To wit: in my case, if there's ever a Bloodborne 2 (highly unlikely), I'll buy the hardware necessary at whatever the cost to maximize the play experience.

GTA VI is supposed to launch in parallel on PS5 and XBox Series. No way they wait for PS6. They'll double dip on console gens just like when they released GTA V for $60 at the end of the 360/PS3 gen and then released a higher res version with better textures for another $60 with no upgrade path early in the PS4/XBox One gen.

 

[zinfamous]

Pretty inconsistent game support. It was marketed as having your cake and eating it too by getting performance mode framerates with graphics mode resolution and RT settings but it hasn't really been too well optimized for. I think it was the new MGS where the worst version of the game to play was the one for PS5 Pro as they sacrificed a boatload performance for slightly better visuals to the point base PS5 was considered the better experience. For me it would end up an $880 console too because I'd need to pay $100 extra for the blu-ray drive, as physical game prices are way better the first two years a game is out, and then another ricockulous $30 for the stupid vertical stand as the PS5 is way too chunky to put it horizontally on my desk.

The lack of the CPU upgrade greatly hurts the potential of it.

Ah OK, thanks for this. I haven't really followed how all this has shaped out and this makes sense to me. Sounds like there isn't a real potential for firmware updates and better-optimized games to take any kind of advantage? Still, the price is so high in my mind, at least in comparison, that I was looking for some real justification.

Does the slim have issues compared to the original PS5? seems the only disc drive version available now is the slim.




My last console is PS3 and my main gaming PC is still Ryzen 1.5, lol, with Vega 64, and I don't want to upgrade PC round so standard PS5 seems really quite good enough for me.

..I do have a Ryzen 5700 / 6800 XT that was purpose built for my racing simulator, but I use that so rarely that I'm basically in the mind to make that my main PC now anyway, and move back and forth...because the main is obsolete due to Win10 hardwall.

 

[zinfamous]

GTA VI is supposed to launch in parallel on PS5 and XBox Series. No way they wait for PS6. They'll double dip on console gens just like when they released GTA V for $60 at the end of the 360/PS3 gen and then released a higher res version with better textures for another $60 with no upgrade path early in the PS4/XBox One gen.

wow, GTA V was sitll on PS3? lol. my time is way off on these things. I know I got it very late, meaning also +years into its PC release, on a sale, but damn in my mind PS3 is like 2007ish and that's it, lol. I think I got GTV no earlier than 2020. I didn't really know PS3 lasted so long after my time. Mine was really just for BD playback and all that in the very early days when it was the ONE BD player that you should get, and it still works fine (it's boxed), and is a lovely 60GB backwards compatible unicorn.

 

[SteveGrabowski]

wow, GTA V was sitll on PS3? lol. my time is way off on these things. I know I got it very late, meaning also +years into its PC release, on a sale, but damn in my mind PS3 is like 2007ish and that's it, lol. I think I got GTV no earlier than 2020. I didn't really know PS3 lasted so long after my time. Mine was really just for BD playback and all that in the very early days when it was the ONE BD player that you should get, and it still works fine (it's boxed), and is a lovely 60GB backwards compatible unicorn.

GTA V dropped in 2013 on PS3/360 and the PS4/XB1/PC remaster was in 2015 IIRC. PS3 was a pretty bad console in 2007; didn't really get decent until 2009 when Demon's Souls and Uncharted 2 dropped on it.

 

[SteveGrabowski]

Does the slim have issues compared to the original PS5? seems the only disc drive version available now is the slim.

Not that I'm aware of. It doesn't have the big drop in power consumption that node shrinks gave the PS1/PS2/PS3/PS4 though since the original was on 7nm lithography and the Slim 6nm.