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jpiniero said:
Watched a review of Nightreign mostly focusing on Solo Mode... and it sounds like it's really difficult. The bosses can be a bit more passive compared to MP but I think the movesets and even the Boss health is similar?
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You got the link to this? I have zero interest in the MP part of this game and completely dismissed it after seeing gameplay of the first beta, however I'd be interested to see if single player is anything I'd enjoy. I'm guessing no since it's still rogue like, which I do enjoy in general, just something I have no desire to check out in the Elden Ring world.
 
I haven't even made it through half the base game let alone the first DLC content, so I'm not in any hurry to pick up another even if everyone was to say it's amazing.

I did finally figure out how spirit ashes work and holy cow does it feel broken. I think it's taken bosses that I haven't just outleveled from having to spend 10-20 attempts to learn and semi-master to being able to kill them either first or second attempt.

How much content does the Shadows expansion add roughly speaking? I'm still going through the game mostly by trying to complete everything that I find (even if most of the rewards aren't all that valuable) so I'm putting in a lot of hours. I assume anyone who plays through with a new character skips a lot of side content to unless it has a weapon, spell, item, etc. that they want and that if you're good at the game you don't need to spend hours on a boss, but I'm still having a blast exploring the world. Even going back to areas I swear I'd picked over before often turns up things I'd missed.

Also, is it worth picking up all of the older titles in the Souls series? I don't mind games that are a lot less open world, but my understanding is that that areas in those games are a lot more contained or akin to something like one of the big castle areas in Elden Ring.

I'm also fighting the temptation of starting a second character. One of the downsides of exploring everything is finding a lot of cool looking stuff that's clearly not for you. I have some items that will let me respec, but I haven't found where I'm supposed to be able to use them yet so I haven't quite pulled the trigger making a second character yet either.
 
RE: GTA VI

Ok, RDR2 is so engaging and fun I'm buying GTA VI on day one regardless of the price. While generally speaking, I wouldn't pay any asking price above what ER's price tag, From & Rockstar are exceptions.

In hindsight, I'd have paid $100 for RDR2. The content, writing, humor and the sheer richness of the game is worth many times that, if we're going by hours played and enjoyment. Since I've picked this game up, it's held my attention similar to ER's early days (likewise, I wish I could go back and play this game anew) where I've no interest in movies, streaming, and haven't even looked onto my Steam account.

Hard to believe it's taken me this long to play a Rockstar game. Prior to RDR2, I thought From was hands down the greatest game studio on the planet, but, after RDR2, I've got to say Rockstar is at the least their equal, and may even surpass them.

The game is just amazing! The details the devs put into this game is just mind-blowing--they're the true rockstars of the industry.

While predicting the future is always precarious at best, IMHO, GTA VI will easily sell about 50 million units over time and break a billion probably in a few days. Only question, will it be multi-platform or console exclusive?
 
Mopetar said:
I assume anyone who plays through with a new character skips a lot of side content to unless it has a weapon, spell, item, etc. that they want and that if you're good at the game you don't need to spend hours on a boss, but I'm still having a blast exploring the world. Even going back to areas I swear I'd picked over before often turns up things I'd missed.
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ER's initial play though was unequivocally the single best gaming experience for me and was truly magical in every sense of the word. While RDR2 comes close, it's hard to imagine another game, past or future, that will grab a hold of me the way ER did.

After my initial blind play though, I checked out the guides and the many great content creators and discovered I had missed about 30% of the stuff! I was trying to explore meticulously, but I'm just not very good at it.

In my view, SOTE is a different game from base ER, where I suspect From felt they had to step up the difficulty, especially for the boss fights. My suggestion is doing what you're doing and take your time to enjoy the base game; try to be at least level 125 - 150 before entering the DLC. Having said that, IMHO, the two greatest and most well designed bosses in the history of gaming reside in the DLC.

I envy you for your initial play through! I'd give anything to have that initial magical experience again.
 
SteveGrabowski said:
Anyways GTA V is funny how demented it can get. For example:
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LOL...Rockstar definitely has a sense of humor!

As with most RDR2 fans, I set out to get the Legend of the East outfit. During some of those 90 challenges, I've had some of the most comically demented moments I've ever experienced in video games. I mean, shoot someone, anyone, with a sniper rifle 600 feet away? Knife a mounted enemy? Saw bro riding on the trail, antagonized him, and just knifed him in the head. LOL

OMG! Some of the most memorable moments and just outright comical in video game history for me.
 
JujuFish said:
GTA VI could get a 75 metacritic score and still make a billion dollars in three days.
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Personally, I never consider metric scores or reviews. I'll take a recommendation from any of you here before I go with a metric score or "professional" reviews.

IMHO, games sell because of a huge established fan base. I suspect ER sold because millions considered it DS4 and From has a loyal fan base built over years of great games that never disappointed their core gaming market; namely, Bloodborne, Sekiro, the DS series. Not a single bad game amongst them and all true to their principles.

Likewise, GTA's fanbase, as I'm finding out, is probably even larger. Then, you add in the RDR2 fanbase and a beloved title which minted over 50 million copies. There's no question their next game will fly off the shelves, it's just a matter of how many units and if the game will meet expectations.

While personally I have no interest in Nightreign or any live service game however one dresses it up, on day one Steam count hit about 330K concurrent players. This translates to about 2 - 3 million units sold? For a lesser studio, I suspect they'd be popping champagne, but, in my view, from From's perspective, it's just par for the course. SOTE minted 5 million units sold pre-order.

However, what is true when I was a teenage gamer so many decades ago and still rings true now is you have to deliver. I'll buy the next From and Rockstar game because of my prior experience, at whatever their asking price, but if they fail, then I won't for the next one. It's that simple. You have to keep delivering--it's the free market principle and reality.

Case in point. After experiencing that Ninja Garden game using rainbow colors for blood, I will never buy another Team Ninja game unless it's recommended by a fellow gamer or have Steam's 2 hours to make sure they didn't resort to whatever drove them to make use crayon for blood.
 
There is another State of Play tomorrow at 5 PM EST. Kinda ballsy doing one just 7 hours before the Switch 2 launches.

Edit: If you want to know what's going to be announced... a God of War Metroidvania (?) and the long rumored remaster of Final Fantasy Tactics might be the most notable games.
 
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jpiniero said:
There is another State of Play tomorrow at 5 PM EST. Kinda ballsy doing one just 7 hours before the Switch 2 launches.

Edit: If you want to know what's going to be announced... a God of War Metroidvania (?) and the long rumored remaster of Final Fantasy Tactics might be the most notable games.
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Summer Game Fest is happening this week. It's probably in line with that more than the Switch 2.
 
Lies of P DLC dropped!

For me, it's bad timing. If it hadn't been for my excursion into RDR2, I would have bought and played it on day one. I'd probably would have picked up and played Khazan or Exp 33 during its early launch if I hadn't been mired in RDR2.

Sometimes, timing is everything. I'm sure every game studio would prefer to sell as many units at the open asking price asap, because once time passes, the impulse to buy and play subsides. Then, you just await for the inevitable sale a year or two later.

Surprisingly, as much as I had anticipated the LOP DLC, I'm not finished with RDR2 and won't pick it up until I'm ready. That could be several months or a year. The problem, for them, is once I've finished with RDR2, the next thing may come along to grab my attention, and I'll forget all about the above mentioned games.

For instance, Black Myth Wukong's timing was perfect for me. I thoroughly finished ER, was ready to move on, and they came along. All it had taken were the industry's contrarian indicators (the game journalists) to bring it to my attention.
 
I have a couple of missions or more until I finish Khazan. Almost 70+ hours and still not done but this is pretty much doing everything. I've been stuck on bosses too so it takes longer.

I would like to play the lies of P dlc but I don't think I want to go straight into another souls type of game. I'll probably continue expedition 33 and finish that.
 
I played Lies of P on Xbox Game Pass and it's no longer on there, so I'll have to buy the base game in addition to the DLC. Probably won't get around to that for a while.
 
MoragaBlue said:
ER's initial play though was unequivocally the single best gaming experience for me and was truly magical in every sense of the word. While RDR2 comes close, it's hard to imagine another game, past or future, that will grab a hold of me the way ER did.
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I never did play RDR2 so I should probably pick up a copy of that. I can definitely see how Elden Ring could be a person's favorite game, but I think Breath of the Wild fills that gap for me. There are a lot of times I find myself wishing I could climb up some castle wall or cliff in Elden Ring.

I do wonder if I caused some problems for myself with the way I was playing through the game. It seems that by exploring first and backfilling I might have broken some quests or just put them in weird states. I had stuff happening that I really didn't understand and another problem was that 50 hours (over weeks of play) had passed between meeting an NPC and seeing them again. I had no idea what was going on or why some characters were showing up again. There was one that wanted me to find another character to give them something, but they were gone from where they used to be and I have no idea where they might have gone to.

So naturally I did the thing I said I wanted to avoid and started a new game just to try to remind myself of who some of these people were or what their deal was. I decided to go with a strength-based build just to keep things simple and not have to worry about putting stats into anything besides strength, health, or carry weight. Honestly, I like the playstyle more and have tried more mechanics that I was ignoring. I fought the big mounted guy at the start of the game on foot and managed to beat him much sooner. I now think using a shield is broken and it feels even more cheap against some enemies than pelting them with magic at range.

I also found even more stuff that I had somehow missed even after thinking I had gone through the starting areas with a fine-toothed comb. I wouldn't be surprised if I'm missing even more stuff still. I just beat the castle boss at around level 40 on my first attempt (I did use all of my flasks though) so I feel pretty good about that. I also just picked up the massive Berserk knock-off sword that I remembered getting before, but neglected to consider that it has a massive weight, so I'm still mainly using a pickaxe I got earlier until I can get enough carry weight to rock that thing without having the heavy slow roll.

The combat is way more deep that BotW so anyone who values that more than exploration is sure to find this an amazing game. There's a bunch of other stuff I haven't tried at all that seem possible. I did eventually beat the boss that unlocks respects on my first character (really enjoyed that boss battle) so I could just change, but I feel like I've learned way more just picking something new and sticking with it. I think I'll finish the game on the strength character and then look at build guides or explanations of game mechanics just so I understand how some stuff works.

I don't see Nintendo ever making a Zelda game with combat as complex as a Souls game, but I'd like to see a game that combines the combat depth and complexity of a souls game but also the exploration options and elements of a Zelda game. Maybe Rockstar could do something like that. They've got the money to take the years of development they would need.
 
They should add some kind of single player or the game is DoA. Honestly they could just do a remake of the original trilogy's story as so few people ever played them and it would be good enough for most people.
 
Death stranding 2 is getting great ratings. Too bad I never finished the first one. I saw it on steam for $15 so I picked it up. Looks so much better on PC at 4k up to 120hz. I'm enjoying it more now than I did when it came out on PS4. I'm going to run through the story missions and see how long it takes to get through since I want to check out the second title because I haven't used my PS5 pro since astrobot.
 
Mopetar said:
Honestly they could just do a remake of the original trilogy's story as so few people ever played them and it would be good enough for most people.
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That's not what Bungie does though. Literally for the last 10+ years, all Bungie has done is Destiny and Destiny 2.
 
jpiniero said:
That's not what Bungie does though. Literally for the last 10+ years, all Bungie has done is Destiny and Destiny 2.
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Their alternative is dumping Concorde 2.0 onto the market. No one is going to drop any amount of money on a solely multiplayer game that could die in a few months and probably will because it already looks terminal.

Doing a remake of the original trilogy is cheap in the sense that all of the decisions are made. So much of modern game development seems to be wasting time figuring out what to do before settling on a choice that could have been made months previously.
 
jpiniero said:
If you were ever wondering why Sony is trying so hard on GAAS... GTA V was second in sales on US PSN in June. For PS5 games.

Nightreign was third.
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Sure, all things being equal, GAAS is the way to go, if you can pull it off. One time sales will never be comparable to annuitized income streams over a span of, say, 10 years.

The trick is to pull it off. High risk and high reward. If anyone can, it would be From--it'll be interesting to see if they'll make the attempt.

PS - Though I'll likely never partake in live service games, I'd happily invest in the concept.
 
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