Official NV20 (da monster) release date !!!!!!!!!!! Feb/2001

Hardware

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As I said before the NV20 is ready but was pulled back to end 2/2001 because of full stocks of GTS2!
2.nd reason (Nvidia) "there is no speed wise competition"
Get it here!
 

fs5

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Um if I could read that language I would understand it... but wait... babelfish to the rescue....

Muelheim (in/smk) - the distribution of the GeForce 2-Nachfolgers, which is developed at present under the code name " NV20 ", is to only begin in February 2001.

Originally Nvidia had planned to present the 3D-Beschleuniger at the beginning of January next yearly. Now the conception of the NV20 is to have been shifted on at the end of of February.

As reason Nvidia indicates extra large stocks of the current GeForce 2-Chips. Besides consist no mandatory reason to devalue at present in GeForce 2-Chips leading regarding performance by competition of own house.

If one believes the predicates of Nvidia, then the NV20 is to offer max. the sevenfold performance of the GeForce 2 GTS Grafikchips. The first diagram cards which are based on the NV20-Chip are expected on the CeBIT 2001.



 

Wingznut

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Didn't you say in another thread it'd be released within weeks?

Make up your mind, man!
 

DaveB3D

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Ya gotta love the reasons they give. The real reasons:

1) board level issues (I'm not certain how the chip is)
2) Takes a while to get production going (wouldn't expect large ammounts when it first ships).

The reason they give is BS, because the price points are totally different.
 

Czar

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They probably want to milk the market dry with the GeForce2 before they move on to next chip, no need to hurry when there is no competition.
 

Mem

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DaveB3D,with all due respect it will be release when it`s ready,3dfx have not got exactly the perfect record when it comes to this, most of us can wait so what`s the big deal when it`s released,I would rather have a card from any company that has gone through quality testing etc,then one rushed out just to please some people.

:)
 

RagingGuardian

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Hardware, here's a 3rd reason...you'd have to sell your kids to afford one:D

It's not like GTS Ultras are flying off store shelves.
 

GTaudiophile

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That's not what they are saying, DaveB3D. They are saying that there it too much excess inventory of GF2 chips. If nVidia wants to sell off as many GF2 boards as possible and allow their OEM partners to make money off of them, then that is a good sign. If NV20 is suppose to cost $500+, why get rid of the excess inventory of GF2s when they can cover other, lower price-points in the market with them? Obviously, NV20 will cost less than we thought because nVidia is worried about crowding their own market. Understand what I am saying?
 

glen

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So, when will we be reading the Reviews on the card? Does anyone know when the NDA is over?
 

Hardware

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With Ultras Pro and GTS2 out with no competition (speed) I dont see any reason for Nvidia to get out next week with a NV20!
So or so Nvidia will milk us
 

BigToque

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Dave,

When is Rampage supposed to be out.

Everyone,

If Dave cannot tell us, what is the latest rumor of the release date?
 

miniMUNCH

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Most of nVIDIA's literature and PR is a bunch of shat. I just downloaded some of the white papers from nVIDIA, ATI, and 3dfx to start getting famaliar with graphics technology. White papers from 3dfx and ATI were fairly objective (with a slight bias)...you know, they just talked about the technology with out limiting or ruling out competing technology. nVIDIA white papers, a couple of them in particular, basically came across as, "nVIDIA is GOD, we have the best implementation of all technologies worth shat and, therefore all others (read: 3dfx and ATI) are complete morons and their cards should be used for target practice."

Basically, I don't trust a thing that nVIDIA says. It is possible that nVIDIA may become the "evil son-of-a-biatch" of the graphics card industry given their shady business practices and penchant for misleading consumers and misconstruing facts.
 

ElFenix

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Mem - does that mean you buy 3dfx cards?

of course nvidia is going to say because they already are fastest so whats the point. they're not going to say its because they have issues. you people are too trusting.
 

CanadianBacon

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Its simple economics. Perhaps its just ONE of the reasons its not being released, but such factors play a major part. Everyone knows that processors would be MUCH faster if intel and AMD weren't milking the market for what its got. The reason speeds come out slowly isn't so much a quality control issue but its because they'll make a lot more money when they release new clock speeds slowly, and let the hardcore users scramble all over it. AMD pissed intel off because not only did their chips have higher yields, so they could ramp up the MHZ higher than the PIII could, but they also had the balls to release those speeds at a much faster pace. Even because of this, Intel wouldn't just relase the most powerful chip they could, they still had a loyal fan base so they'll continue to do so as long as they can stay reletively close to the Athlon.

The same pertains to Nvidia. Since they are the reigning king right now with no apparent competition, they can take their time and milk the market for what its got. This isn't a business about releasing the fastest chips, although most people would like to think so. This is a business for making money. Nvidia is doing just that, and despite the fact that I want an NV20 ASAP, I can't blame them for such a wise decision. There is no need to trip over themselves at the breakneck speed they are going when competition is clearly left in the dust. They're laying back, relaxing, and reaping the benefits of hard work and a great chipset. If intel were in their situation, they probably wouldn't have come close to the mhz range they're operating in right now.

Thank god for competition, though, I only hope 3dfx has the guns to put the pressure on once again and lower those astronomical prices.
 

DaveB3D

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I don't understand why it is so hardware to understand when you guys are being fed BS?

For example, what did NVIDIA say when they released the det3 drivers and got a performance increase? They said it was because they started from a clean source and re-wrote the code. This was flat out BS.

What was the initial excuse for NV20 not being out? No DX8 so no point.

Now that DX8 is out, what are they saying? They have lots of GTS inventory they are waiting to clear.


This stuff is just crap guys and you should know this.... sigh
 

Mem

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ElFenix,yep I`ve used 3dfx card,Nvidia etc,but the point I`m trying to make is what`s the big deal about when it comes out, there are those still waiting for Matrox next card & not complaining even DDR boards have been delayed,this is all part of the Computer hardware world, some people just make a big issue of it.

I for one can wait for NV20 or DDR boards or anything else.

:)
 

noxipoo

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does it matter we don't get NV20 now? anyone dying from not beign able to run Q3 faster? Q3 runs fine on a TNT2 last i checked. also why is harware always rooting for nvidia? kinda like rooting for Microsoft... GOOOOO BILL!
 

Argo

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Well, I could understand why somebody would root for Nvidia, they make kick ass products.
 

Hardware

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At least Nvidia (unlike 3dfx) can execute we know now when our cash should be ready and my $500 is ready!
(kick my ati radeon 64mb vivo, ATi sucks on drivers)
 

Deeko

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Man I used to really like nvidia...this Hardware kid has caused me to not like them. Good job! You did the opposite of what you "intended" to do.
 

SlimHarpo

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DaveB3D:


<< For example, what did NVIDIA say when they released the det3 drivers and got a performance increase? They said it was because they started from a clean source and re-wrote the code. This was flat out BS. >>



What was the &quot;real&quot; reason?
 

Dulanic

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My god is Dave picky.... Do I care if they completely rewrote the driver code? Does it even matter? As for NV20 not out yet its called buisness, its obvious the reason is there is still juice left in GeForce 2 and money to be made with the stock they have.... any smart buisness person would do the same thing... sell off what you have. They have no reason to release NV20 right now, nothing competes with the Pro.