*official nfl week 6 thread*

[rudeguy]

They won only 2 games with almost the same roster (minus Manning) as the year before. I seriously thought they should've given Manning the MVP because he proved beyond any reasonable doubt that he was more important to his team than any other player was to his team.

I really wish he had won MVP the year he was out. REALLY WISH

 

[lupi]

If clowney was there, likely a texans victory last night. Colts had incredible luck with several of their first drives and a total brain fart letting them get an easy onside recovery. I'd say foster went beast mode about mid second quarter and on, but it wasn't even that. He wasn't breaking through tackles cause the colts just seemed to not be able to touch him until he hd gone 6+ yards on so many runs.

 

[vi edit]

They won only 2 games with almost the same roster (minus Manning) as the year before. I seriously thought they should've given Manning the MVP because he proved beyond any reasonable doubt that he was more important to his team than any other player was to his team.

Heh no doubt. But also think Irsay was making the coaches intentionally tank that year to be frontrunners in the Suck for Luck campaign.

 

[Retro Rob]

They won only 2 games with almost the same roster (minus Manning) as the year before. I seriously thought they should've given Manning the MVP because he proved beyond any reasonable doubt that he was more important to his team than any other player was to his team.

Exactly, but would you honestly vote Manning an MVP with all zero's in the stat column, whereas someone like Aaron Rogers has a career year, for instance?

 

[IndyColtsFan]

Heh no doubt. But also think Irsay was making the coaches intentionally tank that year to be frontrunners in the Suck for Luck campaign.

I actually don't think that is the case. What incentive would Polian and Caldwell have had? Irsay rightfully cleaned house after that debacle. I think it just showed how terrible Caldwell was.

And yes guys, I was joking (somewhat) when I said Manning should've been given the MVP. A co-MVP would've been more appropriate. :awe:

 

[Retro Rob]

Heh no doubt. But also think Irsay was making the coaches intentionally tank that year to be frontrunners in the Suck for Luck campaign.

I know you're being sarcastic, and I don't think pro-coaches would actually tank a season, but I do think they wanted Luck badly enough for that to be entirely possible.

 

[Retro Rob]

I think it just showed how terrible Caldwell was.

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[IndyColtsFan]

Hey!


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The Lions have enough talent to mask Caldwell's deficiencies and hopefully you have a better GM than that incompetent retard Chris Polian.

 

[Retro Rob]

If clowney was there, likely a texans victory last night. Colts had incredible luck with several of their first drives and a total brain fart letting them get an easy onside recovery. I'd say foster went beast mode about mid second quarter and on, but it wasn't even that. He wasn't breaking through tackles cause the colts just seemed to not be able to touch him until he hd gone 6+ yards on so many runs.

Looking back on that game, the score off of the onside kick was critical.

They would have been only up 3 when Houston took over, and we would have had a different game.

 

[smackababy]

Looking back on that game, the score off of the onside kick was critical.

They would have been only up 3 when Houston took over, and we would have had a different game.

That onside kick was a great move, IMO. It was unprompted and exploited a stupid formation the Texans had. Plus, it kept the momentum for Luck and co. to really jump to an early lead. They eventually stopped playing (once it was 24-0), but for a time, Indy just dominated everything.

 

[manimal]

Luck is on a torrid pace. Casserly annointed him HOF today.


Guy is really special and on his way to top 5 of all time. Im amazed at the way pep hamilton puts him in a position to find open guys. Love the way Luck makes mistakes as well. Shrugs em off when they happen and take ownership of his mistakes in press conferences before hes asked usually. Really smart thoughtful guy.

 

[dougp]

Luck is just special. I wonder how much the Redtaints are regretting their choice right now ...

 

[manimal]

Luck is just special. I wonder how much the Redtaints are regretting their choice right now ...

The Washington administrators as I have started to call them wish they could go back in time.

 

[vi edit]

Guy is really special and on his way to top 5 of all time. Im amazed at the way pep hamilton puts him in a position to find open guys. Love the way Luck makes mistakes as well. Shrugs em off when they happen and take ownership of his mistakes in press conferences before hes asked usually. Really smart thoughtful guy.

The thing to watch for him is how he handles the physical side of his game as he ages. Right now he's not scared of contact and even makes comments to the fact that he likes getting hit a few times as it "wakes him up". That running threat of him bootlegging it out and hoofing into the end zone from 9 yards out is real and part of his game. Curious to see how he changes over the next 7 years and if he moves to a more true pocket passer like Brady/Manning.

 

[glenn1]

Luck is just special. I wonder how much the Redtaints are regretting their choice right now ...

What choice? Indy had the #1 pick and took Luck, so he was never an option since the Colts would have never traded away the 1.01 draft slot. If you mean they should regret trading the farm to the Rams in order to draft RG3 at 1.02 then I'm right with you.

 

[smackababy]

What choice? Indy had the #1 pick and took Luck, so he was never an option since the Colts would have never traded away the 1.01 draft slot. If you mean they should regret trading the farm to the Rams in order to draft RG3 at 1.02 then I'm right with you.

They'd have been much better to not make that trade. They'd still get Morris in the 6th, and he has more of an impact than RG3 on the bench, that is for sure.

Too bad the Rams didn't use that pick to get a QB.

 

[IndyColtsFan]

Luck is just special. I wonder how much the Redtaints are regretting their choice right now ...

In fairness to them, they never had a shot at Luck. If they had a chance at Luck but drafted RGIII instead, they would deserve even more derision than they have already suffered. Any Redskins fan who seriously thinks RGIII is better than Luck is a delusional moron at this stage. I won't call out the ATOT forum members who said RGIII was better; I'll let them bask in their own embarrassment.

But at any rate, I will repeat what I said at the time when Washington traded the Rams for the rights to RGIII - the Redskins got robbed.

 

[dougp]

What choice? Indy had the #1 pick and took Luck, so he was never an option since the Colts would have never traded away the 1.01 draft slot. If you mean they should regret trading the farm to the Rams in order to draft RG3 at 1.02 then I'm right with you.

I know, but they could have gone after Wilson.

 

[IndyColtsFan]

I know, but they could have gone after Wilson.

Yep, and notice that they wisely drafted Cousins the same year. Even the Redskins had concerns.

 

[vi edit]

In fairness to them, they never had a shot at Luck. If they had a chance at Luck but drafted RGIII instead, they would deserve even more derision than they have already suffered. Any Redskins fan who seriously thinks RGIII is better than Luck is a delusional moron at this stage. I won't call out the ATOT forum members who said RGIII was better; I'll let them bask in their own embarrassment.

You happen to have that thread handy? I'm pretty sure I remember what I said in that debate thread. And I think it's already proven accurate.

 

[lupi]

Seems some in the area are thinking more along the lines of should the redskins have made any trade at all than worrying about if they could have had luck over bobby three sticks.

 

[Mermaidman]

Luck is just special. I wonder how much the Redtaints are regretting their choice right now ...

Never thought I'd see the day that you'll be politically-correct.

 

[Retro Rob]

That onside kick was a great move, IMO. It was unprompted and exploited a stupid formation the Texans had. Plus, it kept the momentum for Luck and co. to really jump to an early lead. They eventually stopped playing (once it was 24-0), but for a time, Indy just dominated everything.

It was great, and the import of my mentioning that was that sort of play changes game plans. I don't know what their [Texans] game plan was, but I'm sure that being down 3 allows you to run the ball more than being down 10 verse Luck does.

If I recall, the started passing immediately when they got the ball back. That probably doesn't happen down 3 with Foster in the backfield.

 

[smackababy]

It was great, and the import of my mentioning that was that sort of play changes game plans. I don't know what their [Texans] game plan was, but I'm sure that being down 3 allows you to run the ball more than being down 10 verse Luck does.

If I recall, the started passing immediately when they got the ball back. That probably doesn't happen down 3 with Foster in the backfield.

It really did change the dynamic. The Texans had to play catch up. It didn't help that it was literally 2 plays for the offense to score after that onside. I wonder how much of that was planned. Did they tell the kicker "if they line up like that, try and onside it" or was it more of a "onside kick it, for sure". It was like nobody on the field even reacted, except the kicker. And it was brilliant.

 

[angminas]

Week 6: October 8 - October 14

THU, OCT 9

Indianapolis at Houston 8:25


SUN, OCT 12 TIME (ET)

Jacksonville at Tennessee 1:00 PM CBS
Baltimore at Tampa Bay 1:00 PM CBS
Denver at NY Jets 1:00 PM CBS
Detroit at Minnesota 1:00 PM FOX
New England at Buffalo 1:00 PM FOX
Carolina at Cincinnati 1:00 PM FOX
Pittsburgh at Cleveland 1:00 PM CBS
Green Bay at Miami 1:00 PM FOX
San Diego at Oakland 4:05 PM CBS
Chicago at Atlanta 4:25 PM FOX
Dallas at Seattle 4:25 PM FOX
Washington at Arizona 4:25 PM FOX
NY Giants at Philadelphia 8:30 PM NBC

MON, OCT 13 TIME (ET)

San Francisco at St. Louis 8:30 PM ESPN


Mostly pretty easy picks this week.

Man, was J.J. fun to watch or what? Without him, that game would have been a savage beating.