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Gibson486

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"If they manage"? Have a little more faith, my friend. The Vikings have not played well so far this season. Favre can still launch some big ones but they are almost never caught, and he still throws too many interceptions (which Jets D will be all over). Harvin will easily be covered by either Revis or Cromartie. AP is great, but the Jets will know to watch him carefully. Shiancoe would be a good option but he is going to be busy blocking to protect Favre against Jets blitzes. Minnesota defense will have a hard time neutralizing LT, Edwards, and presumably Holmes, especially if Sanchez continues to play solid football as he has in the past 3 weeks. Also factor in that the Jets will be playing at home and yours truly will be there cheering them on. A Jets victory is all but certain.

Have you not been watching football the past two weeks? There is no certainty this year. Unlike past years, no favorable team has emerged. Heck, even the Lions have been playing decent ball. Also, you really think SF is an 0-4 team? Look at Flacco the first two weeks...he was horrible, now he is back to decent. Honestly, I have not enjoyed football this much in a long time.
 

AstroManLuca

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Are you suggesting that the only undefeated team, the chiefs, should be number 1?

Not at all, but power rankings are supposed to emphasize recent games. There are always exceptions, but if a team lost their most recent game, they shouldn't generally move up (or in the case of the Steelers, stay in the #1 spot).
 

bignateyk

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Not at all, but power rankings are supposed to emphasize recent games. There are always exceptions, but if a team lost their most recent game, they shouldn't generally move up (or in the case of the Steelers, stay in the #1 spot).

The power rankings are supposed to rank the teams based on their performance during the entire season, and they are simply updated based on results of a recent game.

Losing to a top 5 team by 3 points with your 4th string QB at the helm isn't much cause for concern.
 

gimmewhitecastles

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Not at all, but power rankings are supposed to emphasize recent games. There are always exceptions, but if a team lost their most recent game, they shouldn't generally move up (or in the case of the Steelers, stay in the #1 spot).

they were taking into consideration future games on that one. imo, the saints should be number one until they have a definitive loss. they should have won that game against atlanta.

but all things considered, the team that has impressed me the most is the jets. if they opened up the playcalling against baltimore in week 1, they'd be undefeated with 3 division wins. only lost by 1 pt that game.
 

lupi

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I'd have the chiefs in the top 10. They are still undefeated and of all the one loss teams only a couple really had a chance in their lost game to be undefeated. Many of the and ones either easily lost that one game or have been rather lucky to have not lost more games.
 

JD50

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The power rankings are supposed to rank the teams based on their performance during the entire season, and they are simply updated based on results of a recent game.

Losing to a top 5 team by 3 points with your 4th string QB at the helm isn't much cause for concern.

Charlie Batch was your second string QB for years, enough of this 4th string QB BS.

Every Ravens/Steelers game over past couple of years has been just like this past game, even with Ben. Flacco beat your defense, which had all of your starters playing.
 
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JD50

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they were taking into consideration future games on that one. imo, the saints should be number one until they have a definitive loss. they should have won that game against atlanta.

but all things considered, the team that has impressed me the most is the jets. if they opened up the playcalling against baltimore in week 1, they'd be undefeated with 3 division wins. only lost by 1 pt that game.

I hear this kind of talk all the time too, and it's completely ridiculous. If the Jets "opened up the playcalling" other things in the game would've changed as well. There's no reason to believe that the Jets would've beat the Ravens just because they decided to pass more.
 

gimmewhitecastles

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I hear this kind of talk all the time too, and it's completely ridiculous. If the Jets "opened up the playcalling" other things in the game would've changed as well. There's no reason to believe that the Jets would've beat the Ravens just because they decided to pass more.

well that loss to the bengals is just as inexcusable. ;)
 

AstroManLuca

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they were taking into consideration future games on that one. imo, the saints should be number one until they have a definitive loss. they should have won that game against atlanta.

but all things considered, the team that has impressed me the most is the jets. if they opened up the playcalling against baltimore in week 1, they'd be undefeated with 3 division wins. only lost by 1 pt that game.

But the same argument can be turned around... I could say the Saints should be ranked lower until they have a definitive win. So far they've beaten a bad Vikings team, the winless 49ers, and the winless Panthers, all in very close games. If they were truly the #1 team in the NFL right now, they'd have blown out at least one of those games. They're still a good team, but it's also obvious that they aren't the same as last year. They're not racking up points like they used to.
 

Adrenaline

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The Seahawks trade for Lynch. Someone to sit behind Forsett and Washington. What a great idea to grab a RB with a draftpick when they need OL and WR more than anything else.
 
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Homerboy

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Maybe the Packers should be #1? I mean 3-1, only loss to the 3-1 Bears in a close one. RIGHT!???!

That being said, power rankings are about the dumbest "stat" in any sport.
 

AstroManLuca

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Maybe the Packers should be #1? I mean 3-1, only loss to the 3-1 Bears in a close one. RIGHT!???!

That being said, power rankings are about the dumbest "stat" in any sport.

The Packers have no running game and no discipline. They had 18 penalties against them! And that is not a new thing either, I follow the Vikings so I always see at least two Packer games every year (usually more) and for the past few years the Packers always have tons of flags thrown against them. Their coach hasn't done anything to improve the situation.

Power rankings aren't accurate until at least halfway through the year, and by then you may as well just look at the standings. So I don't take much stock in them.
 

Homerboy

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I don't know why you would. I bet they will be there at the end of the year with as good a chance as anyone to win it all.

Well as Astro said, penalties and lack of running game could potentially kill them. Losing that 1 game to the Bears stings too. But yeah, I do see them at least being in contention at the end. As has been said over and over, any given year it seems that anyone in the NFL can win. This year seems to be absolutely no exception with the race wide open. Even the Lions loses have been close and against decent/good teams. Should be a great GREAT 17 weeks if it continues like this. I have NO problem with fresh blood in the playoffs.
 

fustercluck

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Colts are 9 point favorites over the undefeated Chiefs next week. Wuuut? The Chiefs aren't for real but neither are the Colts :p - Was just kinda surprised odds gave Colts the biggest chance to win over any other team next week.

(I'll probably pick Colts, too)

Wish they had a game on Thursday every week on the NFL network or something. Then we could get a steady dose of football throughout the week and not just all on sunday and one game on monday
 
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