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***Official NCAA Basketball Tournament thread***

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rcpratt said:
A three was what Purdue had earned.

I hate my life, that is all.

edit: Why won't my icon change.
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It's just a game, so don't worry. I'm a Purdue grad, but even I know that as with Pitt, never count on Purdue to go deep into the tournament. Gene Keady was the master of tournament chokes, and unfortunately, it looks like Matt Painter may have picked that trait up. I'm sure I will have to listen to my wife gloat about Butler.
 
rcpratt said:
Kansas has the easiest road to the Final Four ever.
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How do you figure? Just because they are playing against teams with a higher seed, doesn't mean that the team is "easier". Clearly this is not the case since VCU has gone so far and absolutely smoked their opponents and Richmond also won convincingly. Rankings mean very little at this point, and clearly some teams that were ranked high didn't deserve it (i.e. ND, syracuse, etc).
 
slag said:
How do you figure? Just because they are playing against teams with a higher seed, doesn't mean that the team is "easier". Clearly this is not the case since VCU has gone so far and absolutely smoked their opponents and Richmond also won convincingly. Rankings mean very little at this point, and clearly some teams that were ranked high didn't deserve it (i.e. ND, syracuse, etc).
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Notre Dame definitely deserved their ranking because of Hansbrough. However, if he is off they will lose as you saw last night. Same with BYU, UConn who depend on one guy to score 30 a game which is why I don't like picking high seeds who are too reliant on one scorer.

Syracuse, uh... yeah. Way overrated and Boeheim should just retire. No way his team should have lost to Marq with that talent, you can only attribute their lack of hunger to the coach. Talent can only get you so far. Pitt was overrated as well because they always let teams hang around. Of their last 10 games before the tourney, Pitt only led at the half 3 times. They almost always start slow and never had the killer instinct to bury a team. The talent is off the charts, but they had too many close games with teams they should have beaten by double digits.

VCU is an all around great team and play hungry every game. Their deadly accuracy beyond the arc paralyzes opponents and Rodriguez runs that offense with good vision (12 pts, 11 assists vs Purdue). Purdue was supposed be very stout defensively and VCU just methodically picked them apart. Is FSU that much better defensively? Maybe, but I have a feeling VCU will beat them.
 
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SP33Demon said:
Notre Dame definitely deserved their ranking because of Hansbrough. However, if he is off they will lose as you saw last night. Same with BYU, UConn who depend on one guy to score 30 a game which is why I don't like picking high seeds who are dependent on one guy.

VCU is an all around great team and play hungry every game. Their deadly accuracy beyond the arc paralyzes opponents and Rodriguez runs that offense with good vision (12 pts, 11 assists vs Purdue). Purdue was supposed be very stout defensively and VCU just methodically picked them apart. Is FSU that much better defensively? Maybe, but I have a feeling VCU will beat them.
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So are you agreeing with me or just commenting? 🙂 VCU was a bubble team according to the people who picked the tourney spots and FSU looks like it should have been ranked higher, yet both are showing great poise and determination. I don't see KU's path any easier than other regional teams. Maybe even harder since KU has everything to lose and all reporters are pitting the underdogs against goliath.
 
I'm not a big believer in "this team beat that team and that team was the the number [insert high seed] so this team is better than that team and will be just as much of a challenge for [insert region favorite]."

I'm not saying VCU, FSU, Richmond aren't good, but I don't think it's unfair to say that Notre Dame, Louisville, or Purdue would beat Kansas more times than those teams if they all played Kansas 100 times.
 
slag said:
So are you agreeing with me or just commenting? 🙂 VCU was a bubble team according to the people who picked the tourney spots and FSU looks like it should have been ranked higher, yet both are showing great poise and determination. I don't see KU's path any easier than other regional teams. Maybe even harder since KU has everything to lose and all reporters are pitting the underdogs against goliath.
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I agree with you on Syracuse, but not Notre Dame because if Hansbrough goes off they can beat anyone.

The funny thing is all of the morons saying the Big East is overrated because it only has two teams left. Out of the 11, let's go through them. 2 were eliminated (Cincy and Syracuse) playing another Big East team, so that's 7 teams left:

7) Louisville lost to Morehead because they didn't have their best scorer (Knowles) for almost all of the 2nd half when he sprained his ankle.
6) St John's didn't have one of their best players DJ Kennedy so they were easy pickings and only got a high seed based on their body of work with Kennedy.
5) Notre Dame lived or died via Hansbrough, not surprising they lost when he went 5-13.
4) WVU was in a rebuilding year (9 scholarships available) and overperformed after losing their star seniors from last year's FFour team. They played Kentucky very tough and were actually up 8 at the half but couldn't pull off the upset.
3) Georgetown was way overrated because they didn't have Wright (leading scorer who broke his hand on 2/23) and were seeded based on their wins with him. When he did come back vs VCU, it was obvious he wasn't ready by shooting 3-13. Also, anytime a team makes twelve 3's, you're not going to win.

Bad losses:
2) Villanova to George Mason (and Nova would have lost to OSU anyway) and
1) Pitt to Butler on a 1 in a million chance stupid foul.

In reality, the only team that should have moved who didn't is Pitt. Which would have made 3 Big East teams to the sweet 16 instead of 2. Were people expecting some major upsets with Big East teams? Injuries happen, it's a part of life and what makes the tourney so great. Having 2 teams instead of 3 in the Sweet 16 is par for the course. Only morons who can't do math or know the teams think all 11 should have made the S16 if they really were the best conference.
 
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CallMeJoe said:
How many big-name teams have failed to hold on "against lackluster opponents they should have crushed"?

A win is a win.
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yup. I love all the ACC sucks comments every season.

even on a certain down year, the conference tends to outperform every other during the tourney.

It's a beautiful thing. It was easy to dominate bracket pools when I was in Chicago, especially when the Illini had their one good season. People were so incredulous that they could be so easily dominated against the Tarholes. I won good money that year.

😀

I never challenge them when it comes to football, of course. 🙂
 
I got Zona going to the final four in half my brackets 🙂

GO CATS.

D-will is amazing. Just fantastic.
 
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speed demon that's the most homeriffic pro big-east POS comment I've EVER seen, give us all a break.

Pitt lost because of a 1 in a million foul? What about the one in a million foul right before that one?

Notre Dame can beat anyone? Anyone in that conference maybe.

West Virginia simply wasn't very good this year. Ditto for Georgetown, ditto for Villanova, ditto for Cincy. Syracuse/Louisville/Marquette/St.Johns - not sure I see a lot of NBA talent there, and I'll extend that comment to Pitt and ND as well.

I think Dixon has done a great job with the program, but other than Young from their team 2 years ago, have they really produced any NBA talent? I guess Blair counts too....They remind me of Michigan St - a big, strong, physical team, maxes out their talent, gets beat by better talent in the end - though I'd argue Mich.St has had more top-level talent than Pitt has in recent years.

that leaves you with Ucon and their one great player, and....

bottom line is - it's by far the deepest conference in the country this year - but in terms of best teams - this conference doesn't have any of them this year, period.


Wow - I thought Arizona Duke would be a good game, but I didn't see this coming - Duke is getting it handed to them in the 2nd half..wow.
 
easy to say you have Arizona in the final 4 now - and highly unlikely too - color me impressed by someone saying that before 5 minutes ago - like before the tourney started maybe?
 
NeoV said:
easy to say you have Arizona in the final 4 now - and highly unlikely too - color me impressed by someone saying that before 5 minutes ago - like before the tourney started maybe?
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If only there was some way to prove it...:

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This is awesome. We really lucked out picking up Sean Miller as a head coach after that 4 year coaching debacle. Even luckier picking up Derrick Williams.
 
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