refurbs for this board are being sold for $44.99 at ChiefValue. Seems like a good deal. Check FW for details.
Setup my SLI rig this weekend, not a single issue so far. Played half-life 2 at 1920x1200 with max eyecandy for a couple hours, was sweeeeeet. 
Board shipped from newegg with the 3.60 bios.
Board shipped from newegg with the 3.60 bios.
Yes very easy
just keep playing with everything. First drop HT to 4x and mem divider to 166:200 and up your vcore to 1.45 then start upping your HTT from 200 to 210, 215, 220 etc. Make sure you have center spread disabled and all your agressive timings disabled. Oh and make sure your memory command rate is @ 1T and everything else auto.no, not for all boards
I think just MS-7125 in particular, maybe other MSI boards also?
I haven't had this issue yet either, but for those who do the solution is to uninstall/reinstall chipset drivers.
seems to be the most common shutdown problem is not being able to shut down except by turning off PSU
I have no clue what causes this problem, but that's the fix /\/\/\/\/\
I had the same problem with that board and got a 2nd one with no success. Finally out of frustration I unplugged all USB devices and it booted right up. I then plugged the USB devices in while the system was running and haven't had the problem since. Can't explain it but it worked.
raid 0 problem
dummy here screws up pc and now not sure how to handle problem.
rundown of events:
1. set up raid 0 & everything worked like a champ
2. bought hard drive coolers and in process of moving drives, snapped sata connector on back of one of the drives
3. got replacement drive and am trying to reinstall windows
4. deleted raid setup and recreated it (raid 0) and cleared data. shows as healthy
problems:
1. cant load raid controller driver during windows load - get error
2. get blue screen about drives needing fdisk
can anyone suggest a possible course of action? thanks.
dummy here screws up pc and now not sure how to handle problem.
rundown of events:
1. set up raid 0 & everything worked like a champ
2. bought hard drive coolers and in process of moving drives, snapped sata connector on back of one of the drives
3. got replacement drive and am trying to reinstall windows
4. deleted raid setup and recreated it (raid 0) and cleared data. shows as healthy
problems:
1. cant load raid controller driver during windows load - get error
2. get blue screen about drives needing fdisk
can anyone suggest a possible course of action? thanks.
So, I am considering buying the MSI Ultra solution; I have no need for SLI.
Up or down - Is this the board to buy, or I should I look at another one. In other words, with your experience, would you purchase this product again, or look at something else? (I have a Lian Li "inverted" V1000. so the heatpipe Northbridge coolers are "no go" for me, as is the funny power placement on the Epox board - it would affect my airflow)
Thanks - NOOB dwb
Up or down - Is this the board to buy, or I should I look at another one. In other words, with your experience, would you purchase this product again, or look at something else? (I have a Lian Li "inverted" V1000. so the heatpipe Northbridge coolers are "no go" for me, as is the funny power placement on the Epox board - it would affect my airflow)
Thanks - NOOB dwb
My experience with the MSI k8N Neo4 Platinum (non-SLI) has been rocky, but most of my issues have been resolved. Here are the problems I've had:
1. USB keyboard support. Initially would not recognize my Logitech wrieless keyboard/mouse. I had to use an old PS2 keyboard to boot, and then hot-plugged the Logitech. Works fine now. The USB support on this board seems pretty wonky, I've also had problems with one USB 2.0 hub and a USB 2.0 card reader.
2. Slow boot. Disabling USB keybard storage in the Bios fixed this.
3. Bios v1.8. Many problems. Reverting to 1.5, then to 1.6 fixed this. MSI has some software development issues!
4. System restarts spontaneoulsy on shutdown. This one really frustrated me, and seems to be quite common. I eventually fixed this by disabling the LAN wakeup option in the advanced settings of the network adapter, along with disabling XP's restart on failure setting in the System control panel.
5. Windows update doesn't work. I don;t think this is related to the motehrboard, though it's the first board I've had this problem with. Still working on this one. [EDIT: Re-installing Office per the MS KB articles for this error fixed the problem]
For a "Premium" board, that's a lot of trouble to have to sort out. I usually buy value baords (Biostar, Shuttle, etc...) and have never had this many issues. On the plus side, the user forum on the MSI website is excellent, as is the support here.
If I had it to do over again, I would just get the Chaintech NF4 Ultra board.
Kit
1. USB keyboard support. Initially would not recognize my Logitech wrieless keyboard/mouse. I had to use an old PS2 keyboard to boot, and then hot-plugged the Logitech. Works fine now. The USB support on this board seems pretty wonky, I've also had problems with one USB 2.0 hub and a USB 2.0 card reader.
2. Slow boot. Disabling USB keybard storage in the Bios fixed this.
3. Bios v1.8. Many problems. Reverting to 1.5, then to 1.6 fixed this. MSI has some software development issues!
4. System restarts spontaneoulsy on shutdown. This one really frustrated me, and seems to be quite common. I eventually fixed this by disabling the LAN wakeup option in the advanced settings of the network adapter, along with disabling XP's restart on failure setting in the System control panel.
5. Windows update doesn't work. I don;t think this is related to the motehrboard, though it's the first board I've had this problem with. Still working on this one. [EDIT: Re-installing Office per the MS KB articles for this error fixed the problem]
For a "Premium" board, that's a lot of trouble to have to sort out. I usually buy value baords (Biostar, Shuttle, etc...) and have never had this many issues. On the plus side, the user forum on the MSI website is excellent, as is the support here.
If I had it to do over again, I would just get the Chaintech NF4 Ultra board.
Kit
I initially had 2x250 Gb SATA II HDs on a RAID 0 and had the OS loaded on it...
switched to an IDE 80Gb just cuz it's smaller...
Anyhow, I didn't have to reinstall the raid drivers.
Vandozza, I think that "SLI chip-thingy" is in actuallity what the engineers do call that component.
=^) dwb
=^) dwb
Originally posted by: the cobbler
no, not for all boards
I think just MS-7125 in particular, maybe other MSI boards also?
I haven't had this issue yet either, but for those who do the solution is to uninstall/reinstall chipset drivers.
seems to be the most common shutdown problem is not being able to shut down except by turning off PSU
I have no clue what causes this problem, but that's the fix /\/\/\/\/\
I doesn't look like a fix to me....... using 1.9 I can't fix the shutdown problem. You can uninstall/install chipset drivers until your blue in the face and it doesn't fix a thing. Of course it hard to believe they (drivers) could have any impact to start with considering an XP driver surely isn't responsible for sending a shutdown message to the PS......
Originally posted by: doc2345
Originally posted by: the cobbler
no, not for all boards
I think just MS-7125 in particular, maybe other MSI boards also?
I haven't had this issue yet either, but for those who do the solution is to uninstall/reinstall chipset drivers.
seems to be the most common shutdown problem is not being able to shut down except by turning off PSU
I have no clue what causes this problem, but that's the fix /\/\/\/\/\
I doesn't look like a fix to me....... using 1.9 I can't fix the shutdown problem. You can uninstall/install chipset drivers until your blue in the face and it doesn't fix a thing. Of course it hard to believe they (drivers) could have any impact to start with considering an XP driver surely isn't responsible for sending a shutdown message to the PS......
that fix is straight from the mouth of a Taiwan MSI rep on the official MSI Taiwan forums, not my idea. Seems to work for everyone.
BTW, bios 1.9 is causing tons of problems, check MSI user forums and RebelsHaven, lots of aberrant behavior when flashing to 1.9. Flash back to 1.6 official.
anything after 1.73 mod is a piece of crap. 1.3 official is good. 1.6 official is good. also 1.7x betas/mods are good but lack memory dividers. The rest=total crap.
Just get rid of the neo4...it sucks! It wouldnt be THAT bad if MSI had a good stable bios, but damn, no matter what they do it makes the board worse. Plus their customer service SUCKS!
ME- I need to RMA my board.
MSI- Why? What do you think is wrong with it?
ME-It blue screens, marvel port is dead, and the Silicon Image Sata controller doesnt work.
MSI- Sounds like you have some spyware on that machine.
ME- $&*#$#*(&4 YOU #*($#@Y($*# Hang up.
ME- I need to RMA my board.
MSI- Why? What do you think is wrong with it?
ME-It blue screens, marvel port is dead, and the Silicon Image Sata controller doesnt work.
MSI- Sounds like you have some spyware on that machine.
ME- $&*#$#*(&4 YOU #*($#@Y($*# Hang up.
Originally posted by: sixth
Just get rid of the neo4...it sucks! It wouldnt be THAT bad if MSI had a good stable bios, but damn, no matter what they do it makes the board worse. Plus their customer service SUCKS!
ME- I need to RMA my board.
MSI- Why? What do you think is wrong with it?
ME-It blue screens, marvel port is dead, and the Silicon Image Sata controller doesnt work.
MSI- Sounds like you have some spyware on that machine.
ME- $&*#$#*(&4 YOU #*($#@Y($*# Hang up.
well, that attitude isn't going to get you much help.
BTW, why wouldn't you just buy a granny-board that is uber-stable if you are not even overclocking? Abit or Asus.
Originally posted by: the cobbler
Originally posted by: doc2345
Originally posted by: the cobbler
no, not for all boards
I think just MS-7125 in particular, maybe other MSI boards also?
I haven't had this issue yet either, but for those who do the solution is to uninstall/reinstall chipset drivers.
seems to be the most common shutdown problem is not being able to shut down except by turning off PSU
I have no clue what causes this problem, but that's the fix /\/\/\/\/\
I doesn't look like a fix to me....... using 1.9 I can't fix the shutdown problem. You can uninstall/install chipset drivers until your blue in the face and it doesn't fix a thing. Of course it hard to believe they (drivers) could have any impact to start with considering an XP driver surely isn't responsible for sending a shutdown message to the PS......
that fix is straight from the mouth of a Taiwan MSI rep on the official MSI Taiwan forums, not my idea. Seems to work for everyone.
BTW, bios 1.9 is causing tons of problems, check MSI user forums and RebelsHaven, lots of aberrant behavior when flashing to 1.9. Flash back to 1.6 official.
anything after 1.73 mod is a piece of crap. 1.3 official is good. 1.6 official is good. also 1.7x betas/mods are good but lack memory dividers. The rest=total crap.
I wasn't aware of the problem before I bought the board. My Asus Premium laid down and since there's a lot of new boards on the horizon I didn't want to spend a lot on a temporary board. I flashed 1.9 out of the gate rebuilt the array and did a repair install without realizing there was a problem.
The 1.6 and 1.71mod seem to work fine though so I guess I?ll just hang with it for the time being?. I haven?t had much time to play but my X2 4800+ runs fine in this board @ 290 X 9 with Corsair XMS @ 260 2.5-3-3-6?.. After the board has a couple of days on it I'll it give a little push and see where it lands.
Dang, the way you guys are talking about you MSI boards just about sets my purchase. I think that I will get that "granny board" Aopen Ultra, slap a 7800GT on it, and start mowing down villians in Serious Sam 2 when it comes out next week!
How does that sound like for a plan?
dwb
How does that sound like for a plan?
dwb
?????
Aopen is no granny board
some of the asus and abit lately have been not-so-great overclockers but are incredibly stable, IMHO
Well, it certainly hasn't made any waves in the overclocker's world. Do a Google search; it isn't talked about by hardly anyone.
dwb
dwb
neither is the Chaintech VNF4Ultra but it clocks like mad
BTW, if you are serious about the 7800GT (I can't tell from your post) there is some guy selling off a 7800GTX on the For Sale/Trade forum for $425
But the Chaintech has been reviewed on a few sites; I see no one (but ChiPCGuy) that has done a review of the Aopen. Weird, eh? The Chaintech has the same problem as the Epox board (for me); the placement of the power connecter is a major block of my airflow.
Thanks for the heads up on the video card.
dwb
Thanks for the heads up on the video card.
dwb
Please, I need your help!!! I can?t complain about this MB at all but here is the only problem I have: When I bought this MB (MSI K8N Neo4 Ultra ? nForce 4 Ultra), everything went well for first 2 months or so, but than, from time to time, ?CMOS checksum error? report started to show during boot up sequence.. An easy flat 3V battery exchange solved the problem ? but only for another month. After that, the ?CMOS checksum error? report was here again. Since the new battery I bought was pretty cheep (about $1 and was also no-name I thought that a more expensive brand battery would probably be better so I bought it (Duracell, approx. $4). but things got even worse.. The BIOS maintained its data for only like 3 weeks or something, than the same problem again.. Now.. when I remove the battery out of the MB and I measure its voltage externally, it still has over 2,5 V which is not the value that my BIOS shows (it?s around 1,3 V in my BIOS?s health status!!!). Do you people think that the MB has some sort of short circuit in it or something like that? Right now I solved the problem by putting in a set of 2 AA Duracell alkaline batteries connected to the MB. Its capacity is incomparable so I hope it will last for some time.. Any suggestions? Do you think I should return the MB (bought it approx. 5 months ago) Thanx a lot everybody..
Vojtanek (Czech republic
and was also no-name I thought that a more expensive brand battery would probably be better so I bought it (Duracell, approx. $4). but things got even worse.. The BIOS maintained its data for only like 3 weeks or something, than the same problem again.. Now.. when I remove the battery out of the MB and I measure its voltage externally, it still has over 2,5 V which is not the value that my BIOS shows (it?s around 1,3 V in my BIOS?s health status!!!). Do you people think that the MB has some sort of short circuit in it or something like that? Right now I solved the problem by putting in a set of 2 AA Duracell alkaline batteries connected to the MB. Its capacity is incomparable so I hope it will last for some time.. Any suggestions? Do you think I should return the MB (bought it approx. 5 months ago) Thanx a lot everybody..Vojtanek (Czech republic
First off, when i first got the Epox board i thought i was going to have a b*tch of a time with the power connector at the location its at, after redoing my wiring, i have the my power cable going straight up to the power supply and strapped to the bar going across my case. (Antec Soho File Server AMG1000 w/window). I have no problems with air flow, actually i Prefer the connector at where is it, it keeps everything out of the way, if you wire you case carefully or you have room you can make it work.
Originally posted by: vojtanek
Please, I need your help!!! I can?t complain about this MB at all but here is the only problem I have: When I bought this MB (MSI K8N Neo4 Ultra ? nForce 4 Ultra), everything went well for first 2 months or so, but than, from time to time, ?CMOS checksum error? report started to show during boot up sequence.. An easy flat 3V battery exchange solved the problem ? but only for another month. After that, the ?CMOS checksum error? report was here again. Since the new battery I bought was pretty cheep (about $1
Vojtanek (Czech republic
Sounds like a bad bios chip or a short in the board. There is NO NEED to have to use double AA's for power to the bios. I would dump the board, RMA is ASAP. That is not normal, i dont see how this is a SMALL problem either, personally the second this issue would have happened I have RMA'd the sucker back to MSI. If I were you, if you dont want to go through the hassle of the RMAin i would just pick up a new board...but all of this is just my .02 cents!
Good luck!
yeah, don't tell me that... i guess that Abit AN8 Ultra seems to be a good choice. the MSI MB is good, but this one seems to be better..
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