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Since I've never tested a 533MHz FSB CPU in the 875P Neo-FIS2R I can't really say how well this board will do with such a CPU. But frankly, the 875P Neo-FIS2R is awesome with an 800MHz FSB CPU.
Like Prometheus said, he'll have to get an 800MHz FSB CPU to be sure if the 875P Neo-FIS2R is a great board or not. IMHO the 875P Neo-FIS2R is simply great with an 800MHz FSB processor.
The only other issues I see at this point are weird temps. The BIOS value input issues seem to be just with 533MHz FSB processors.
Like Prometheus said, he'll have to get an 800MHz FSB CPU to be sure if the 875P Neo-FIS2R is a great board or not. IMHO the 875P Neo-FIS2R is simply great with an 800MHz FSB processor.
The only other issues I see at this point are weird temps. The BIOS value input issues seem to be just with 533MHz FSB processors.
Hopefully when the 800 MHz FSB processors come down in price and up in availability, I will get one. For now, though, I'll be satisfied with my 2.53 when I build my computer tonight. Work can not end quickly enough.
I have BIOS input issues with my 865PE-FIS2R and 800 MHz P43.0C. The memory WILL NOT go above 333 MHz in AUTO nor manual settings (I have Corsair's 3200LL memory). The "DDR Clock" right under "Adjust CPU Bus" is greyed out, and always remains at 333 MHz if I try to set the Frequency any higher...Really irritating, but at least it runs!
Apparently my board isn't officially released yet, so I can't download any BIOSes or get any tech support from MSI... Evan, maybe you can help me here?
Apparently my board isn't officially released yet, so I can't download any BIOSes or get any tech support from MSI... Evan, maybe you can help me here?
Just bult my new machine in about 2 hours tonight. Nothing has caught on fire yet. So far so good. I didn't even need to do a Windows repair. I will, however, reformat tomorrow and actually start to play with things a bit.
You may need to retest your MSI 875p NEO, Evan.
Posted by KCComp at Hardforms -
"The MSI overclocking problem is NOT specific to 533 FSB CPUs. As I noted in my original post, I'm using an 800 FSB.
The board just ignores the overclock settings in the BIOS, it has nothing to do with which FSB CPU you use."
". . . Rather than FAILING overclocking, it won't allow you to do it at all! It has the options in the BIOS, but it only pretends to honor them. I can set overclocks of 5 GHz, I should post screenshots of that
I checked the MSI forums and other folks are having the same issue. Once you get into Windows and run Sandra or CPU-Z, it's clear that you haven't overclocked at all.
The board came with BIOS 1.1. I tried upgrading to 1.2, but it erased the Promise RAID BIOS! MSI forgot to distinguish their BIOS updates between the 6758-010 and 6758-020 versions of the board (LSR and FIS2R). Idiots. Even flashing to the old version didn't bring back the Promise BIOS.
I found out from the MSI forums that BIOS 1.0 allows overclocking, so I flashed back to that, and lo and behold, now it overclocks. HOWEVER, this BIOS rev does NOT have the Intel microcode fix to the 800 FSB CPU problem, and I'm running an 800 FSB CPU. So, I can't put this board into my production machine, and all testing results are pretty much null and void (the microcode fix reduces speed )."
Posted by KCComp at Hardforms -
"The MSI overclocking problem is NOT specific to 533 FSB CPUs. As I noted in my original post, I'm using an 800 FSB.
The board just ignores the overclock settings in the BIOS, it has nothing to do with which FSB CPU you use."
". . . Rather than FAILING overclocking, it won't allow you to do it at all! It has the options in the BIOS, but it only pretends to honor them. I can set overclocks of 5 GHz, I should post screenshots of that
I checked the MSI forums and other folks are having the same issue. Once you get into Windows and run Sandra or CPU-Z, it's clear that you haven't overclocked at all.
The board came with BIOS 1.1. I tried upgrading to 1.2, but it erased the Promise RAID BIOS! MSI forgot to distinguish their BIOS updates between the 6758-010 and 6758-020 versions of the board (LSR and FIS2R). Idiots. Even flashing to the old version didn't bring back the Promise BIOS.
I found out from the MSI forums that BIOS 1.0 allows overclocking, so I flashed back to that, and lo and behold, now it overclocks. HOWEVER, this BIOS rev does NOT have the Intel microcode fix to the 800 FSB CPU problem, and I'm running an 800 FSB CPU. So, I can't put this board into my production machine, and all testing results are pretty much null and void (the microcode fix reduces speed )."
Well, I got the board working, and it seems pretty stable when you're not overclocking. I used the Auto overclock in CoreCenter, and I got up to 3045-ish MHz before it crashed on me. When you restart the computer, the CoreCenter lowers the overclock a bit, but it forgets the voltage! So, my machine crashed as soon as it started, and now I have to reinstall Windows again.
They better fix this damn BIOS soon.
They better fix this damn BIOS soon.
They put an active heatsink/fan on the NB with blinking LEDs? How pretty. I'm really impressed.
I'd rather have a big passive heatsink, that won't add to system noise, and have the NB located in a place that it wouldn't block a big, quiet Zalman sink on the CPU.
I'd rather have a big passive heatsink, that won't add to system noise, and have the NB located in a place that it wouldn't block a big, quiet Zalman sink on the CPU.
The LEDs are actually mounted in between the fins of the heatsink, not in the fan.
I flashed the BIOS to version 1.0, and I was able to overclock. However, I have a piece of crap SL6EG chip. I RMA'ed to Newegg, and ordered an OEM from Outpost.com. Hopefully I get one of those good SL6S2 chips that everybody and their mother is overclocking to 3+ GHz. Anyone want a retail 2.53 before I send it back to Newegg?
I flashed the BIOS to version 1.0, and I was able to overclock. However, I have a piece of crap SL6EG chip. I RMA'ed to Newegg, and ordered an OEM from Outpost.com. Hopefully I get one of those good SL6S2 chips that everybody and their mother is overclocking to 3+ GHz. Anyone want a retail 2.53 before I send it back to Newegg?
I never said it didn't run at 2.53 GHz. It only goes to about 2.9, when I could get one that goes well above 3.0. I'm not satisfied with the results of the chip, so I'm sending it back to Newegg.
Thats funny 1 Year ago people were bashing Abit boards left and right and now recomending them now.
I use nothing but Abit boards and never had a problem yet.
The MSI was looking good on the review, but in the real world senario it's looking shabby now.
I was almost tempted to buy one. I'll stick with Abit.
I use nothing but Abit boards and never had a problem yet.
The MSI was looking good on the review, but in the real world senario it's looking shabby now.
I was almost tempted to buy one. I'll stick with Abit.
I was being sarcastic.... You purchased a 2.53GHz processor, anything over is a bonus. It is not right to RMA it just because it does not meet your OC'ing expectations. I ate one processor that fried somehow from Outpost, purchased another that did not make me happy, but I did not RMA it. It was not Outpost's fault that it did not OC as well as I liked. I sold it to someone that was happy with what I tested it at.
When many people do this, it only forces the retailer to raise prices or tailor their RMA policy to "exchange only " like Newegg does on on certain items....
I agree with Techonut, why RMA a CPU that performs to spec? You are only making everyone else pay for your misfortune.
Why return a motherboard that doesn't remember it's overclocking settings? It also runs to specifications. Regardless of whether or not it's moral to return something that works fine just because you don't think it is up to snuff, I'm not getting ALL my money back. Newegg charges a 15% restocking fee. I paid $191, I'm getting $162-ish back, which I'm putting toward an OEM chip. So I guess I'm the one paying for my misfortune.
After that, who knows what Newegg does with the chip? They might be making money on returns for all we know.
Besides, the chip ran at like 50 degrees C at idle at the default speed, anyway.
EDIT: No matter whether it's right or wrong, this is getting off-topic. Let's talk about the motherboard.
After that, who knows what Newegg does with the chip? They might be making money on returns for all we know.
Besides, the chip ran at like 50 degrees C at idle at the default speed, anyway.
EDIT: No matter whether it's right or wrong, this is getting off-topic. Let's talk about the motherboard.
Evan posted a review of this motherboard yesterday, for anyone that didn't know.
I have Mushkin PC3200 running in dual-channel 333MHz at 2-2-2-5 without any problems right now.
I have Mushkin PC3200 running in dual-channel 333MHz at 2-2-2-5 without any problems right now.
So if he tells Newegg he just doesn't want it, that should be fine....nothing dishonest about that...
Self
Will the Zalman CNPS7000-Cu fit on either of these boards? I just noticed the chipset heatsink placement, and it looks like it might be a little tight.
-J
-J
I was able to fit an MCX4000 on this board without any problems with the NB heatsink. You might be touching the capacitors on the side of the CPU socket though.
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