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Kev

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DrunkenSano said:
The package I'm running is Range + Extended Mags.
Then Sleight of Hand, Hardline, Steady Aim.
Specialist Strike Package: Assassin --> Blind Eye --> Scavenger.
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I don't see the point in using hardline with the specialist package. If you just use assassin to begin with, you will get your first extra perk after 2 kills. If you use hardline you're basically making it so that you need 3 kills to get your first extra perk vs. just using assassin to begin with.
 
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dougp

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lokiju said:
Is this new to MW3 or was this done in COD games prior to Blops as well? Blops let you play everything.
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MW and MW2 both had it, you'd notice this if you stuck to certain game types. I never played that stupid small map on MW unless I was in TDM or a few other ones.
 
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Atty

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Kev said:
I don't see the point in using hardline with the specialist package. If you just use assassin to begin with, you will get your first extra perk after 2 kills. If you use hardline you're basically making it so that you need 3 kills to get your first extra perk vs. just using assassin to begin with.
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Quick and easy way to get XP, that's the best point. :p
 
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Schfifty Five

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Kev said:
I don't see the point in using hardline with the specialist package. If you just use assassin to begin with, you will get your first extra perk after 2 kills. If you use hardline you're basically making it so that you need 3 kills to get your first extra perk vs. just using assassin to begin with.
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I'm sure I'm not understanding this correctly, but Hardline makes it so u require 1 less point streak for your rewards right?

So if u run specialist with hardline, u only need 1 kill to get your first extra perk.

Then once u hit 2 more points (3 total points), you will get your second extra perk.

Then another 2 more points (5 total points now), you will get your third extra perk.

And if you hit 2 more points after that (7 total), you unlock EVERY perk right?
 
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Atty

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Yes. His point is that you would substitue Hardline for whatever perk you would choose to have first. So with one kill you'd be where you were at without hardline. Now, without hardline you'd just need two kills and have one more useful perk.
 
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BD2003

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Atty said:
Yes. His point is that you would substitue Hardline for whatever perk you would choose to have first. So with one kill you'd be where you were at without hardline. Now, without hardline you'd just need two kills and have one more useful perk.
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Whether or not it's a good idea depends on what color perk you're subbing. It makes no sense if you're using HL instead of another red perk. But it's not a bad idea if you're trying to get more blue or green perks. For a time id run with extreme conditioning and Hardline, so I could get SoH after one kill....because who needs SoH before your first kill anyway?
 
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Atty

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I run it and get Hard Line Pro and the easy achievements for earning perks just to boost my XP up while I'm trolling through the early levels. I miss my ACR :(.
 
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blurredvision

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I have a couple of MW3 codes for double XP or something, from Mt. Dew bottles. Bottle says to go to dewxp.com. Don't be a dick and take both, leave one for somebody else. Enjoy.

FABAA-RAYWN
KNNEF-6H7HA

EDIT: Both are used.
 
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Kev

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BD2003 said:
Whether or not it's a good idea depends on what color perk you're subbing. It makes no sense if you're using HL instead of another red perk. But it's not a bad idea if you're trying to get more blue or green perks. For a time id run with extreme conditioning and Hardline, so I could get SoH after one kill....because who needs SoH before your first kill anyway?
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I've really tried to use other red perks other than assassin, but with the spawn nonsense and constant UAV spam, I'm forced to use assassin on every class.
 
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BD2003

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Kev said:
I've really tried to use other red perks other than assassin, but with the spawn nonsense and constant UAV spam, I'm forced to use assassin on every class.
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I could make a very good case for all the red perks.

Quickdraw is for when you're on the offense. Its the difference between life and death quite often when you're on the attack, and the double speed flash throws make them about 1000% more useful. In a game type like KC, it means not only you get the kill, but you get the tag.

Assassin is there for you to avoid death at all costs. Its a no brainer if you're using the assault packages. The problem with assassin is that it literally does NOTHING unless there's a UAV or CUAV in the sky. And thats maybe 30% of the time at best. And there are other ways to deal with UAVs than to hide from them.

Blast Shield is for capping objectives. The first thing anyone will do at a flag being capped is throw a nade on it. Its practically required to be effective at being a flag capper or bomb planter/defuser.

Hardline is good on both the low and high end. Combine it with UAV/CUAV with no 3rd on support and you can keep a near constant radar feed up for your team and down for theirs. Likewise, it with the assists adding up you can get to an EMP before your opponents get their osprey. Then you hold it to ruin their day and turn the tide. Combine it with recon and you'll rack up assists like crazy.

Overkill....well, I'm not the biggest fan of it since the secondaries are pretty good, but if you just HAVE to have some CQC to go with your sniper and an MP won't do, its a good option. Combined with SoH pro, you can be pretty versatile.

So yeah, especially if you primarily play TDM, assassin is VERY good. But so are the rest. The red perks are and always have been the single most important choice you make after your primary weapon.
 
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Saint Nick

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Schfifty Five said:
I'm sure I'm not understanding this correctly, but Hardline makes it so u require 1 less point streak for your rewards right?

So if u run specialist with hardline, u only need 1 kill to get your first extra perk.

Then once u hit 2 more points (3 total points), you will get your second extra perk.

Then another 2 more points (5 total points now), you will get your third extra perk.

And if you hit 2 more points after that (7 total), you unlock EVERY perk right?
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So you're telling me that with Hardline equipped and a seven kill streak, you have every perk applied? What?
 
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Schfifty Five

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Saint Nick said:
So you're telling me that with Hardline equipped and a seven kill streak, you have every perk applied? What?
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I believe so.

I think normally if u get an 8 kill streak with specialist, it adds EVERY perk to your guy and of course goes away if you die.
 
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Sixguns

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Not the change the subject but, has anyone else seen the glitch on outpost where you can get inside the tankers? I was in a match and two people on the other team kept doing it and it was very annoying. Its not like it helped them that much they went 9-20 and 3-14. Also wondering if it has been fixed yet.
 
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basslover1

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Sixguns said:
Not the change the subject but, has anyone else seen the glitch on outpost where you can get inside the tankers? I was in a match and two people on the other team kept doing it and it was very annoying. Its not like it helped them that much they went 9-20 and 3-14. Also wondering if it has been fixed yet.
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Yea I mentioned it a few pages back. Just report them for glitching and it will get fixed eventually. IIRC, IW fixed all the rock glitching in MW2 so they should do it here as well.
 
lokiju

lokiju

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boomhower said:
Anyone else having issues connecting to PSN tonight?
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I never had any issues on PSN last night.

Played from about 9:30pm to midnight Eastern without any memorable issues.

Hit my 1st prestige last night.

Not sure what I want to use my token on so think I'll just play for awhile and save it until I decide.

Stats show I'm ranked 8,502 out of 2,845,178 players in FFA.

Was a machine last night.

Only match I did poorly on was one where I only used my secondary weapon in order to hit level 5 on it so I could do akimbo.
 
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Atty

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I'm finding it impossibly annoying to play any type of objetive game type. I'm a huge domination and demolition fan but every time I play someone is running around with a striker and my spawn locations are 5-10 feet away from where I died and there is a shotgun up my ass before I know what is going on. :(

Team Defender is the one exception, since most everyone is located around the flag and the spawns manage to be far enough away to get my bearings. I hope the title update, assuming there will be one, addresses this.

E: The uselessness of the grenade launcher finally has a purpose. Use it on Team Defender and just paint enemies with the explosive damage, took me one game to get 60 paints and the Recon III challenge. Woo.
 
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