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digiram

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My favorite maps are the ones most people hate. Wasteland, Derailed, Scrapyard, Underpass.

Also, for these maps, it's best to use a gun you don't have to reload often... an LMG (RPD preferably). An SMG will let you run faster. But, more often than not, you'll die in the middle of a reload.

Wasteland: I usually stick above one of the tunnel entrances and try to pick off anyone stupid enough to go through it. Occasionally someone will try to sneak up on you, but they can be easily snuffed out. Also, a lot of teams like to bunch up together in the trenches and a nicely placed grenade will do wonders. Snipers are fairly easy to take out as there isn't a whole lot of cover in the map.

Derailed: Basically, my main strategy is to sneak up on the opponents spawn base and basically pick them off. Usually there is 3 or 4 bunch up together and are easy pickings. Also, I've notice a lot of players like to snipe nearby their spawn and are easily stealth killed. There's a few buildings overlooking each primary base and it's fairly good cover and you can get a few kills. Also, I look for long range kills with my RPD against people running across open areas (since the map is fairly large).

Scrapyard: No real strategy, but it's easy to rack up a bunch of kills. Basically, keep moving. Keep throwing flashbangs. Rack up kills. You could opt for an SMG to run faster, but being a small map, I run into a lot of enemies and not having to reload all the time is crucial. If you want to take cover in one of the fuselages, do so, but never for more than 2 kills or 15 seconds. Enemy players will get wise quickly so constantly move. There's some good cover on the outskirts, and you can easily sneak up on a few opponents.

Underpass: Similar strategy to derailed. Don't travel down the main open areas, you will be picked off. Work your way around the edges or jump down in to the water ditch and make your way to the other teams spawning area. You'll catch them off guard. There's plenty of cover, and not a whole lot of opportunities to be flanked on this map. Just pay attention to what's behind you, and you'll be fine.

Just some general tips for anyone having trouble with these maps. Nothing too specific, but hopefully it helps a bit.

My hated maps? Vertical maps like Favela and Quarry.

These are good tips for noobs. Wish I had seen this sooner. I didn't read this untill today, but managed to learn to play the same way on these maps.

I went 35-6 last night on scrapyard with Akimbo p90's. On that map, I try to not even throw any care packages. That delay can kill you, and if you lose an ac-130 cp, that can throw off your entire game... lol
 

basslover1

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It's called Commando, not lag, and you're right, they're not being knifed from 10 feet away...it's more like 15 feet.

There is something screwy with the Commando perk. For instance, last night I was playing Invasion, I had my back in the corner of a wall, a guy ran through the doorway I was watching, he got turned around, had his back facing me, and still knifed me. Just to confirm I wasn't going crazy, the kill cam showed the exact same thing, I wasn't even in the picture when he got the kill.

I also agree, that if you're getting shot in the chest you shouldn't be able to run full sprint and stab me head on from 10 ft out. I've had that happen a few times.


As for the akimbo shottys, I have no problems with the idea of it, but I hate getting sniped with 1887s from 50ft out. The range on the akimbo rangers is better it's about 10-15 ft tops.
 

digiram

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There is something screwy with the Commando perk. For instance, last night I was playing Invasion, I had my back in the corner of a wall, a guy ran through the doorway I was watching, he got turned around, had his back facing me, and still knifed me. Just to confirm I wasn't going crazy, the kill cam showed the exact same thing, I wasn't even in the picture when he got the kill.

I also agree, that if you're getting shot in the chest you shouldn't be able to run full sprint and stab me head on from 10 ft out. I've had that happen a few times.


As for the akimbo shottys, I have no problems with the idea of it, but I hate getting sniped with 1887s from 50ft out. The range on the akimbo rangers is better it's about 10-15 ft tops.


Agreed...I can deal with getting caught around the corner by rangers, but not sniped by 1887's...that's bs.

Also, I experienced something weird, probably due to lag but it was bs. Guy ran into a corner, I run in to knife him and miss twice? He knife me back, and I died. Moments later, he dies and I get points for it???? WTF? How in the hell do you half ass knife someone. I thought it's knife = instant death
 

gorcorps

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Agreed...I can deal with getting caught around the corner by rangers, but not sniped by 1887's...that's bs.

Also, I experienced something weird, probably due to lag but it was bs. Guy ran into a corner, I run in to knife him and miss twice? He knife me back, and I died. Moments later, he dies and I get points for it???? WTF? How in the hell do you half ass knife someone. I thought it's knife = instant death

Is the last stand perk still an option (haven't played MW2 for long)? You may have knifed him, he was 'bleeding out' and he knifed you while he was dying. Then he finally kicked the bucket to give you your points.
 

GrantMeThePower

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Agreed...I can deal with getting caught around the corner by rangers, but not sniped by 1887's...that's bs.

Also, I experienced something weird, probably due to lag but it was bs. Guy ran into a corner, I run in to knife him and miss twice? He knife me back, and I died. Moments later, he dies and I get points for it???? WTF? How in the hell do you half ass knife someone. I thought it's knife = instant death

totally sounds like last stand.
 

DrunkenSano

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I wonder how they will "fix" commando...i don't see them removing the perk. I think they'll just reduce the distance a bit, but its either going to make it pointless, or not do enough. They already have the tactical knife attachment...

Same with akimbo shotguns. Do they remove it (doubtful), make it less powerful (probably) or just make it less accurate?

They can make it so if you have commando and you are knifing a mile away, a bullet can stop your knifing attempt, basically stunning you so you have to re-knife. Won't make it worthless since you can still out-knife the guy if he's trying to knife you and you can still lunge knife someone who doesn't see you. But it stops the bullshit where you lunge through a hail of bullets, don't die and kill the other person.

Akimbo needs to be removed for shotguns, period.
 

smackababy

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I wonder how they will "fix" commando...i don't see them removing the perk. I think they'll just reduce the distance a bit, but its either going to make it pointless, or not do enough. They already have the tactical knife attachment...

Same with akimbo shotguns. Do they remove it (doubtful), make it less powerful (probably) or just make it less accurate?

The accuracy and the 1887's should be removed. Alternately, they can just remove the Akimbo for it and it would be fine.

The knife is also an easy fix. Melee in general shouldn't be a "go to" strategy for killing people. It should be a last ditch, you're out of ammo and have to do something fast kill. My suggestion about limiting the distance based on how much damage you've taken would help, but also make it more of a sneaky but efficient strategy. It would also promote people lag teleporting so they don't take any damage until after the knife has done it's job.

Either way, I will be happy when I can play 3rd person again. Also, I hope they reset the leaderboards. In fact, I would be most happy if they did away with them completely.
 

GrantMeThePower

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They can make it so if you have commando and you are knifing a mile away, a bullet can stop your knifing attempt, basically stunning you so you have to re-knife. Won't make it worthless since you can still out-knife the guy if he's trying to knife you and you can still lunge knife someone who doesn't see you. But it stops the bullshit where you lunge through a hail of bullets, don't die and kill the other person.

Akimbo needs to be removed for shotguns, period.

That was my idea a couple of pages back, and i hope that they do that, I just don't see them actually making that significant of a change.
 

jman19

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Is it just me, or has the spawning gotten worse lately? The number of deaths I've taken < 5 seconds after dying has definitely increased...
 

Rage187

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finished spec ops tonight and claimed my 1000GS. Wetwork was the last one I needed; I went through it tonight solo, took about 40 minutes and I ended up with 85 kills.

I'm done with this game.
 

smackababy

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I just found out why my Xbox kept crashing during the middle of a match. Red ring of death! I think MW:2 broke my Xbox.
 

basslover1

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I just found out why my Xbox kept crashing during the middle of a match. Red ring of death! I think MW:2 broke my Xbox.

Oddly enough my 360, that I purchased as a RROD from eBay (which ended up working perfectly), has been going strong these last two weeks of hours at a time playing.
 

smackababy

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I have been putting in a couple hours a day on this thing, plus streaming movies from my pc. Today though, I installed MW2 to my HDD finally and then I kept getting random freezes. Sure enough, I turned the Xbox on and RRoD was staring me in the face. Strangely enough, I can't make it do it again. Keeps starting up fine but crashing a couple seconds into a match.
 

basslover1

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I have been putting in a couple hours a day on this thing, plus streaming movies from my pc. Today though, I installed MW2 to my HDD finally and then I kept getting random freezes. Sure enough, I turned the Xbox on and RRoD was staring me in the face. Strangely enough, I can't make it do it again. Keeps starting up fine but crashing a couple seconds into a match.

That's odd. Mine only froze on me once, and that was after like a 5 hour stint of BioShock. After that I bought an Intercooler (the good one with the metal power plug) and haven't had an issue since then. It's loud as heck, but better that than paying for an out of warranty 360 to get fixed.
 

speg

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Well after 4 days of online time... I am finally getting good!!! woot woot. :D I have won a few free-for-all's latley, get K/D ratios of 2+ (though i'm still at 0.5 overall) and have gotten killstreaks of 8 or 9 almost regularly! I finally made it!!!
 

smackababy

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That's odd. Mine only froze on me once, and that was after like a 5 hour stint of BioShock. After that I bought an Intercooler (the good one with the metal power plug) and haven't had an issue since then. It's loud as heck, but better that than paying for an out of warranty 360 to get fixed.

Mine is still in warranty. When my launch box broke, I bought a new one (ended up costing me the same as if I had sent it in since I worked at GameStop and traded my broken console in). Never even bothered to register this new one. Strange.
 

Joemonkey

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Is it just me, or has the spawning gotten worse lately? The number of deaths I've taken < 5 seconds after dying has definitely increased...

i agree, they tend to spawn you near other people on your team as opposed to away from everyone, which is BS. I have a silencer, cold blooded, and ninja pro, I don't want my teammates spawning 5 feet from me every 3 seconds!
 

Kev

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Mine is still in warranty. When my launch box broke, I bought a new one (ended up costing me the same as if I had sent it in since I worked at GameStop and traded my broken console in). Never even bothered to register this new one. Strange.

it spawned me next to a claymore today. lulz
 

digiram

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Is the last stand perk still an option (haven't played MW2 for long)? You may have knifed him, he was 'bleeding out' and he knifed you while he was dying. Then he finally kicked the bucket to give you your points.

Last stand works while getting knifed? I wasn't aware of that. Thanks for clarification.
 

cyphilis

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I broke down last night, and decided if I can't beat 'em, I'll join 'em. I put on the commando, marathon, and lightweight perks, grabbed just any ole primary, and ran with a shotty mostly going for knife kills. I actually did pretty good and got a lot of kills, but my deaths were always fairly even with my kills. Still, my kills were in the 20's which is a lot more then I normally get. I think I'll keep it up for a while since it was kinda fun just running around like an idiot kniving guys while they try to shoot me. I'm only level 39 or something, so no access to the John Wayne and Wyatt Earp shotties yet that I really dispise.
Most of the time, I would only die because 1) I missed the knife attempt, or 2) I didn't see the other guy I ran past, but he saw me.
 

Kabob

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totally sounds like last stand.

Knife is an instant kill even with Last Stand/Final Stand.

Either way, I will be happy when I can play 3rd person again. Also, I hope they reset the leaderboards. In fact, I would be most happy if they did away with them completely.

Getting rid of the leaderboards would see about 50&#37; of their gamer base (myself included) leave the game.
 

smackababy

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Knife is an instant kill even with Last Stand/Final Stand.



Getting rid of the leaderboards would see about 50% of their gamer base (myself included) leave the game.

The leaderboards are a joke. I would recon the top 50 are boosters / glitchers. What they should do, is a full clear of stats once they fix these glitches. That way, they are a little more realistic. I mean, a guy with a 3000 kill streak? I'm sure that really happened...

That thing I loved about PC gaming was your stats were only there while that game is going. Your K/D wasn't something you could constantly brag about. Tracking of stats is cool and all but it promotes "console kids" to do anything they can to increase it. Going into objective based games solo is a joke. Nobody, save for myself, does anything with the objective. Everyone camps so they can get that all important K/D up. I had an amazing K/D on CoD4, but I played HQ with 5 good friends. On this game, I am dropping (hit 1.45 the other night, and am down to 1.41) because I try and win the game over camp for kills.