*** OFFICIAL MATRIX RELOADED AFTERMATH THREAD *** spoilers

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Originally posted by: TheChort

Originally posted by: MacBaine

Originally posted by: TROGDORdBURNINATOR
That was singularly the worst movie that I've ever seen. I'm glad I didn't pay a penny to see it and I'll never see it again. Barf.

I'm glad... that way we can keep the discussion to those who actually appreciate this work of art.

It was THAT great.
It was a decent movie, but not equal to what the hype made it out to be.

I agree!

 

[Harabecw]

Hi, didn't read pages 7-13(its getting looooong, hehe) so I'm sorry if this has been mentioned.

Assuming
-there were 5 earlier matrices
-morpheus is real (not a program)

could the man morpheus said released him from the matrix be an earlier One? he chose morpheus as one of the 23 for the new matrix.
although, I think you're supposed to pick them before the new matrix, not years after and get them out. or are you?


BTW, I think it is obvious Zion is not real. after all, if it was, the machines would already have a hole to go through from earlier versions and would not have to dig. or does Zion get relocated so you have to dig a new hole?


Note I have not seen the movie yet so I may be talking out of my ass!

 

[TheeeChosenOne]

Originally posted by:
Note I have not seen the movie yet so I may be talking out of my ass!

You're talking out of your ass!

Just kidding!

 

[Regs]

Cut out the rest of the film and spend a half hour with these two scenes ( car chase and the fight with the clone smiths) and you've got a masterpiece -- nothing on par with the original, which told a masterful tale, to boot -- but eye candy galore. (You may also take a detour to check out Persephone, played by Monica Bellucci. The girl can't speak a lick of English, but she's just about the hottest thing to ever appear on a motion picture screen, so I won't complain.)

The rest of the film is hit and miss. In fact, the first half-hour of Reloaded is so limp you can safely skip it altogether. Low points include a Zion church ceremony (the Biblical metaphors get thick in this one) that turns into a sweaty rave (are these people worth saving?). The dialogue is often corny (Morpheus on his balcony, intoning, "Good night, Zion.") and filled with dorm-room philosophies. And the new supporting characters introduced are unilaterally forgettable. There's a gaggle of goofy leaders running Zion (like we're in some Star Wars council meeting). We get albino-ish twins with dreadlocks and shaved foreheads who look less like villains and more like Muppets with Down's Syndrome. And there's the diminutive Jada Pinkett Smith, who's worked into a tepid love triangle story and who comes off worst of all: Her spiky Lisa Simpson hairdo is about as sophisticated as a mullet. There's a fine line between cool and totally lame. Putting Neo in a dress falls among the latter, as does the abrupt ending, which just about ranks with the season finale of the typical WB TV show.

I think that covers the bad of this movie. Its still a good action flick.

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
his may 13 article http://www.thehotbutton.com/today/hot.button/2003_thb/030513_tue.htm

Most interesting portion:

"Cast members, who obviously know what happens in The Matrix Revolutions, have made it clear that there are no boxes within boxes. What is presented is true. What happens is real"

so...Zion is not another matrix within The Matrix?

 

[Glitchny]

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
his may 13 article http://www.thehotbutton.com/today/hot.button/2003_thb/030513_tue.htm

Most interesting portion:

"Cast members, who obviously know what happens in The Matrix Revolutions, have made it clear that there are no boxes within boxes. What is presented is true. What happens is real"

so...Zion is not another matrix within The Matrix?

haha good, i wasnt wrong!

 

[hdeck]

ok so this is totally unrelated, has probably been said before, and no one cares but...in the game Enter the Matrix Monica Bellucci and Jada P. Smith kiss ok that is all...

 

[Regs]

And whatever you do, do not buy the game ! lol . It offers nothing to the story and you know there is something up with the graphics engine when the cars tires are square shapped.

 

[alkemyst]

Regs the game supposedly has alot to do with the movie....how far did you get in it?

Also what hardware you running?, that is probably the problem.

 

[WashCup]

Thought the storyline sucked.....can't wait for the third one though.

The competition between the Matrix 3 and Lord of the Rings 3 should be really interesting since they both get released 'round Christmas time.

 

[Kev]

Originally posted by: Regs
And whatever you do, do not buy the game ! lol . It offers nothing to the story and you know there is something up with the graphics engine when the cars tires are square shapped.

i had the pc version. i have a 9700 and a p4 2.5ghz, and still the graphics were awful. there were so many bugs in the game, gameplay was choppy, and controls were screwy so i gave up on it.

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: WashCup
Thought the storyline sucked.....can't wait for the third one though.

The competition between the Matrix 3 and Lord of the Rings 3 should be really interesting since they both get released 'round Christmas time.

Not for me...no interest in seeing Lord of the Rings.

The Matrix r0xr's over it

I still need to see Reloaded a 2nd time...Tue. didn't pan out like I'd hoped.

 

[VikingBerserker]

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
ah, david poland has interesting stuff on matrix.


http://www.thehotbutton.com/today/hot.button/2003_thb/030513b_tue.htm
"The Oracle is a program.
The Oracle could be a computer failsafe, designed to keep Neo from freeing mankind.
The Oracle did not necessarily believe in Neo the last time they met, suggesting that perhaps she is not all knowing and all seeing.
"

I disagree with the Oracle not believing in Neo. Actually she predicted it right when she said in the first movie that you are NOT the One at least not in this life maybe the NEXT or something to that effect.

Neo then dies in the first movie shot by the Agents only to come back to life...which I take that to mean his next life or resurrection/rebirth whatever.

 

[hdeck]

Originally posted by: alkemyst
Regs the game supposedly has alot to do with the movie....how far did you get in it?

Also what hardware you running?, that is probably the problem.

i am in the power plant that i am supposed to shut off so Neo can go see the arkitect. so far, it's not that much fun. but the slow mo gun fights are entertaining sometimes. and yes, it does add to the story. it gives background on how they got the transmission from the osiris as well as stuff about the key maker, and the protector of the oracle. but the best part is the kissing scene

*edit* i run a xp1600@2000 + 512 ddr ram + radeon 9500 and i still get slow downs even in 800x600

 

[SKORPI0]

Originally posted by: WashCup The competition between the Matrix 3 and Lord of the Rings 3 should be really interesting since they both get released 'round Christmas time.

Not even close. Matrix Revolutions - Nov 5, 2003 and Lord of the Rings - The Return of the King - Dec 17,2003.

That's 6 weeks separating them.

 

[MacBaine]

Originally posted by: SKORPI0

Originally posted by: WashCup The competition between the Matrix 3 and Lord of the Rings 3 should be really interesting since they both get released 'round Christmas time.

Not even close. Matrix Revolutions - Nov 5, 2003 and Lord of the Rings - The Return of the King - Dec 17,2003.

They're pratically on top of each other!

 

[everman]

6 weeks is plenty of time between two major movies, I doubt it would affect how much they make at all.

 

[kmac1914]

Originally posted by: hdeck
ok so this is totally unrelated, has probably been said before, and no one cares but...in the game Enter the Matrix Monica Bellucci and Jada P. Smith kiss ok that is all...

yea, i posted about it earlier....quite cool.
Also, if you have both a console and a pc, play the console version of the game. It doesn't run all that well on a lot of computers, from what i've heard.

 

[Lizardman]

Originally posted by: dahotboykj

Originally posted by: hdeck
ok so this is totally unrelated, has probably been said before, and no one cares but...in the game Enter the Matrix Monica Bellucci and Jada P. Smith kiss ok that is all...

yea, i posted about it earlier....quite cool.
Also, if you have both a console and a pc, play the console version of the game. It doesn't run all that well on a lot of computers, from what i've heard.

It runs like molasses on my PC. i mean come on its graphics arent that great. IT is also very buggy on my compter. I dont know if its the haxored version I got or what though.

 

[hdeck]

still playing the game, and wow there is a lot more that ties in well. the oracle is played by a different person. she said the merovingian told her she would pay if she helped neo and now she is. she had to change her look and go into hiding. it also shows bane (the guy that was infested by smith) as the only person left on his ship (the sequence implied that he killed them all) and he sets off the EMP. hopefully this will end any debate that is still going on as to whether or not it is smith. the oracle also tells niobe (that is who you play as, in case you didn't know) that she will have to make some kind of choice and it will decide if she helps neo or not. i guess i should say, talking to the oracle happens after neo goes into that coma. she says that neo's mind and body have seperated.

*edit* i have a feeling i'm getting close to the end, since now i would be in the beginning of the revolutions story. right now i am running down the streets in china town with the multiple smiths chasing after me, as well as police and SWAT members =/

 

[kmac1914]

Originally posted by: hdeck
still playing the game, and wow there is a lot more that ties in well. the oracle is played by a different person. she said the merovingian told her she would pay if she helped neo and now she is. she had to change her look and go into hiding. it also shows bane (the guy that was infested by smith) as the only person left on his ship (the sequence implied that he killed them all) and he sets off the EMP. hopefully this will end any debate that is still going on as to whether or not it is smith. the oracle also tells niobe (that is who you play as, in case you didn't know) that she will have to make some kind of choice and it will decide if she helps neo or not. i guess i should say, talking to the oracle happens after neo goes into that coma. she says that neo's mind and body have seperated.

*edit* i have a feeling i'm getting close to the end, since now i would be in the beginning of the revolutions story. right now i am running down the streets in china town with the multiple smiths chasing after me, as well as police and SWAT members =/

I beat the game with Niobe, and im about 2/3 done with Ghost....You aren't that far from the end, either--although i hated the Chinatown part. However, there is this really cool sequence with Ghost, I won't spoil it for you though.

 

[Angrymarshmello]

How do you guys like the game anyway? I need something to play...

 

[crazygal]

I have a few questions:
If Zion is the real world, and not another Matrix, how do they rebuild it every time? Do the robots re-fill the holes after they're done digging? How do 7 males and 16 females build a huge city with all that technology if they started from nothing? (It would take a few thousand years at least). Also, wouldn't there be remains of the old Zion's from the last 6 iterations of the matrix?

I'm not too keen on a matrix inside a matrix, but I saw something months before the movie even came out that leads me to believe that Zion is just a second matrix. The description of the movie from www.movies.com said there's a rumor of a second matrix. However, if you look at the description of the movie now, it does NOT mention it...interesting!

http://movies.go.com/movies/M/matrix2the_2001/index.html

 

[Dragnov]

Originally posted by: crazygal
I have a few questions:
If Zion is the real world, and not another Matrix, how do they rebuild it every time? Do the robots re-fill the holes after they're done digging? How do 7 males and 16 females build a huge city with all that technology if they started from nothing? (It would take a few thousand years at least). Also, wouldn't there be remains of the old Zion's from the last 6 iterations of the matrix?

I'm not too keen on a matrix inside a matrix, but I saw something months before the movie even came out that leads me to believe that Zion is just a second matrix. The description of the movie from www.movies.com said there's a rumor of a second matrix. However, if you look at the description of the movie now, it does NOT mention it...interesting!

http://movies.go.com/movies/M/matrix2the_2001/index.html

Did you see this previous post? (I don't blame you if you didn't want to read through the tne million pages, not everyone is as geeky... even though I happened to read them all. )

"Cast members, who obviously know what happens in The Matrix Revolutions, have made it clear that there are no boxes within boxes. What is presented is true. What happens is real"

Personally, I have given up on trying to figure out a real answer. I will let Revolutions answer the questions for me... thank god its only a 6 month wait.




On another note, I whole heartedly agree with that David Poland guy. Especially about them being two different great movies, as I said earlier.

Lastly, my PC Gamer friend isn't liking the Enter the Matrix. He said the controls are clunky, the actions is kinda boring, and the graphics suck. The only thing going for it is the story naturally.

 

[crazygal]

The previous post talks about a game....unless I'm missing something.

I read about 300 messages, didn't see that though. No biggie though, it's just hard to see them refilling the holes and leaving no traces of humans and such...but like I said, I don't like the idea about a Matrix inside a Matrix