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Originally posted by: Mani
Originally posted by: Dedpuhl
Originally posted by: Mani
USC would own. It's not possible to stop their offense - the only way USC can lose is if they kill themselves.

They have so many dependable recievers between their TEs and wideouts, that LSU's biggest defensive advantage, the blitz, will be nullified - noone can dump the ball of better than Leinart. Think about it, they annihilated a Washington State team that calls blitzes on every play which were able to stop Vince Young at Texas.

Leinart is also a freaking surgeon - he was able to pick apart Michigan's secondary - ranked among the top 3 in the nation which had only allowed something like 5 TD passes ALL SEASON. USC hung up 4 passing TDs by themselves. Leinart's precision combined with his recievers' amazing amount of raw talent and fact that they are the best coached offense in the nation = unstoppable.

....wishful thinking.

Spoken like a true LSU fanatic.

I have no allegiance to either school - my take is based on watching both schools play all year.


yeah so is mine
 

Mill

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Originally posted by: Mani
Originally posted by: Dedpuhl
Originally posted by: Mani
USC would own. It's not possible to stop their offense - the only way USC can lose is if they kill themselves.

They have so many dependable recievers between their TEs and wideouts, that LSU's biggest defensive advantage, the blitz, will be nullified - noone can dump the ball of better than Leinart. Think about it, they annihilated a Washington State team that calls blitzes on every play which were able to stop Vince Young at Texas.

Leinart is also a freaking surgeon - he was able to pick apart Michigan's secondary - ranked among the top 3 in the nation which had only allowed something like 5 TD passes ALL SEASON. USC hung up 4 passing TDs by themselves. Leinart's precision combined with his recievers' amazing amount of raw talent and fact that they are the best coached offense in the nation = unstoppable.

....wishful thinking.

Spoken like a true LSU fanatic.

I have no allegiance to either school - my take is based on watching both schools play all year.

I hate LSU, but they'd whoops USC's ass. You're just a USC fan because your team choked vs them. If USC wins it doesn't make you feel as bad.
 

kalster

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well when USC beat Michigan it was coz michigan choked

but when LSU beat Oklohoma it was coz they got Owndd by LSU, i dont understand that logic
 

Mill

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Originally posted by: kalster
well when USC beat Michigan it was coz michigan choked

but when LSU beat Oklohoma it was coz they got Owndd by LSU, i dont understand that logic

OSU had one loss and dominated all year. Michigan had 2 and had several miracles to even have only 2 losses. They could have easily had 3 or 4.
 

kalster

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Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: kalster well when USC beat Michigan it was coz michigan choked but when LSU beat Oklohoma it was coz they got Owndd by LSU, i dont understand that logic
OSU had one loss and dominated all year. Michigan had 2 and had several miracles to even have only 2 losses. They could have easily had 3 or 4.

well with all due respect seeing the last 2 games OU played , and how Big 12 performed in the bowls, it just proved how Overrated Big 12 (way worse than Pac 10 which i know u think is the worst conference :D) and OU was,

edit: read this if yuo havent read already,
 

Mill

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Originally posted by: kalster
Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: kalster well when USC beat Michigan it was coz michigan choked but when LSU beat Oklohoma it was coz they got Owndd by LSU, i dont understand that logic
OSU had one loss and dominated all year. Michigan had 2 and had several miracles to even have only 2 losses. They could have easily had 3 or 4.

well with all due respect seeing the last 2 games OU played , and how Big 12 performed in the bowls, it just proved how Overrated Big 12 (way worse than Pac 10 whom i know u think is the worst conference :D) and OU was,

Yet the PAC-10 won bowls vs far subpar opponents than the Big12. Having 4 7-6 teams in bowls means you will play sh!t quality opponents.
 

kalster

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Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: kalster
Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: kalster well when USC beat Michigan it was coz michigan choked but when LSU beat Oklohoma it was coz they got Owndd by LSU, i dont understand that logic
OSU had one loss and dominated all year. Michigan had 2 and had several miracles to even have only 2 losses. They could have easily had 3 or 4.
well with all due respect seeing the last 2 games OU played , and how Big 12 performed in the bowls, it just proved how Overrated Big 12 (way worse than Pac 10 whom i know u think is the worst conference :D) and OU was,
Yet the PAC-10 won bowls vs far subpar opponents than the Big12. Having 4 7-6 teams in bowls means you will play sh!t quality opponents.

well Texas wasnt subpar, infact it wud have been in a BCS bowl if not for KU, not just against pac 10, look at how big 12 performed generally in bowls, they sucked

they might be a good conference in general but this year they were WAY over rated as was OU
 

Mani

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Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: Mani
Originally posted by: Dedpuhl
Originally posted by: Mani
USC would own. It's not possible to stop their offense - the only way USC can lose is if they kill themselves.

They have so many dependable recievers between their TEs and wideouts, that LSU's biggest defensive advantage, the blitz, will be nullified - noone can dump the ball of better than Leinart. Think about it, they annihilated a Washington State team that calls blitzes on every play which were able to stop Vince Young at Texas.

Leinart is also a freaking surgeon - he was able to pick apart Michigan's secondary - ranked among the top 3 in the nation which had only allowed something like 5 TD passes ALL SEASON. USC hung up 4 passing TDs by themselves. Leinart's precision combined with his recievers' amazing amount of raw talent and fact that they are the best coached offense in the nation = unstoppable.

....wishful thinking.

Spoken like a true LSU fanatic.

I have no allegiance to either school - my take is based on watching both schools play all year.

I hate LSU, but they'd whoops USC's ass. You're just a USC fan because your team choked vs them. If USC wins it doesn't make you feel as bad.

I knew USC was by far the best team in the nation way before Michigan played them - my story would be no different if you had asked me 3 weeks ago. You just say LSU because they are an SEC team.

I keep hearing people say that LSU would whoop USC's ass, yet in 52 posts, not a single one has said HOW. I gave perfectly logical reasons for why USC would win. If you want to provide reasons why LSU would win (besides "they have a good D") I'd love ot hear them. I'd love to hear how their defense can stop an offense that has a counter for everything. Or how Matt Mauck and a freshman running back are going to compete against what may be the best front 4 in the nation and a lightning-quick secondary.
 

kalster

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Originally posted by: Mani
Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: Mani
Originally posted by: Dedpuhl
Originally posted by: Mani USC would own. It's not possible to stop their offense - the only way USC can lose is if they kill themselves. They have so many dependable recievers between their TEs and wideouts, that LSU's biggest defensive advantage, the blitz, will be nullified - noone can dump the ball of better than Leinart. Think about it, they annihilated a Washington State team that calls blitzes on every play which were able to stop Vince Young at Texas. Leinart is also a freaking surgeon - he was able to pick apart Michigan's secondary - ranked among the top 3 in the nation which had only allowed something like 5 TD passes ALL SEASON. USC hung up 4 passing TDs by themselves. Leinart's precision combined with his recievers' amazing amount of raw talent and fact that they are the best coached offense in the nation = unstoppable.
....wishful thinking.
Spoken like a true LSU fanatic. I have no allegiance to either school - my take is based on watching both schools play all year.
I hate LSU, but they'd whoops USC's ass. You're just a USC fan because your team choked vs them. If USC wins it doesn't make you feel as bad.
I knew USC was by far the best team in the nation way before Michigan played them - my story would be no different if you had asked me 3 weeks ago. You just say LSU because they are an SEC team. I keep hearing people say that LSU would whoop USC's ass, yet in 52 posts, not a single one has said HOW. I gave perfectly logical reasons for why USC would win. If you want to provide reasons why LSU would win (besides "they have a good D") I'd love ot hear them. I'd love to hear how their defense can stop an offense that has a counter for everything. Or how Matt Mauck and a freshman running back are going to compete against what may be the best front 4 in the nation and a lightning-quick secondary.

oh and MILL before you bring you the "USC lost of Cal argument" AGAIN read NeoV's post above, abuot LSU's schedule and game by game analysis


and also remember that Cal , Florida ended very close in the final ranking

:D
 

Mani

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Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: kalster
well when USC beat Michigan it was coz michigan choked

but when LSU beat Oklohoma it was coz they got Owndd by LSU, i dont understand that logic

OSU had one loss and dominated all year. Michigan had 2 and had several miracles to even have only 2 losses. They could have easily had 3 or 4.

Mich's 2 losses were by a total of 7 points. Just 7 measly points is all that seperated them from being undefeated. The loss at Iowa and the early game deficit vs. Minnesota (the "miracle") were both the result of the hangover from Oregon. Michigan then went on to crush 3 top-10 ranked opponents. There's a reason Michigan was the top 2-loss teams in both polls.
 

kalster

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Originally posted by: Mani
Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: kalster well when USC beat Michigan it was coz michigan choked but when LSU beat Oklohoma it was coz they got Owndd by LSU, i dont understand that logic
OSU had one loss and dominated all year. Michigan had 2 and had several miracles to even have only 2 losses. They could have easily had 3 or 4.
Mich's 2 losses were by a total of 7 points. Just 7 measly points is all that seperated them from being undefeated. The loss at Iowa and the early game deficit vs. Minnesota (the "miracle") were both the result of the hangover from Oregon. Michigan then went on to crush 3 top-10 ranked opponents. There's a reason Michigan was the top 2-loss teams in both polls.

and also remember USC has lost just 3 games in the last 2 seasons, 2 in over time (to WASU last year, and obviously CAL this year )and the 3rd by 5 (IIRC) points

and spanked IOWA (#2 in big 10) in last years orange bowl

:D
 

Mill

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Originally posted by: Mani
Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: Mani
Originally posted by: Dedpuhl
Originally posted by: Mani
USC would own. It's not possible to stop their offense - the only way USC can lose is if they kill themselves.

They have so many dependable recievers between their TEs and wideouts, that LSU's biggest defensive advantage, the blitz, will be nullified - noone can dump the ball of better than Leinart. Think about it, they annihilated a Washington State team that calls blitzes on every play which were able to stop Vince Young at Texas.

Leinart is also a freaking surgeon - he was able to pick apart Michigan's secondary - ranked among the top 3 in the nation which had only allowed something like 5 TD passes ALL SEASON. USC hung up 4 passing TDs by themselves. Leinart's precision combined with his recievers' amazing amount of raw talent and fact that they are the best coached offense in the nation = unstoppable.

....wishful thinking.

Spoken like a true LSU fanatic.

I have no allegiance to either school - my take is based on watching both schools play all year.

I hate LSU, but they'd whoops USC's ass. You're just a USC fan because your team choked vs them. If USC wins it doesn't make you feel as bad.

I knew USC was by far the best team in the nation way before Michigan played them - my story would be no different if you had asked me 3 weeks ago. You just say LSU because they are an SEC team.

I keep hearing people say that LSU would whoop USC's ass, yet in 52 posts, not a single one has said HOW. I gave perfectly logical reasons for why USC would win. If you want to provide reasons why LSU would win (besides "they have a good D") I'd love ot hear them. I'd love to hear how their defense can stop an offense that has a counter for everything. Or how Matt Mauck and a freshman running back are going to compete against what may be the best front 4 in the nation and a lightning-quick secondary.

The same way CAL did. Passing the ball.
 

Mill

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Originally posted by: Mani
Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: kalster
well when USC beat Michigan it was coz michigan choked

but when LSU beat Oklohoma it was coz they got Owndd by LSU, i dont understand that logic

OSU had one loss and dominated all year. Michigan had 2 and had several miracles to even have only 2 losses. They could have easily had 3 or 4.

Mich's 2 losses were by a total of 7 points. Just 7 measly points is all that seperated them from being undefeated. The loss at Iowa and the early game deficit vs. Minnesota (the "miracle") were both the result of the hangover from Oregon. Michigan then went on to crush 3 top-10 ranked opponents. There's a reason Michigan was the top 2-loss teams in both polls.

You should recheck your facts...
 

Mill

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Originally posted by: kalster
Originally posted by: Mani
Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: kalster well when USC beat Michigan it was coz michigan choked but when LSU beat Oklohoma it was coz they got Owndd by LSU, i dont understand that logic
OSU had one loss and dominated all year. Michigan had 2 and had several miracles to even have only 2 losses. They could have easily had 3 or 4.
Mich's 2 losses were by a total of 7 points. Just 7 measly points is all that seperated them from being undefeated. The loss at Iowa and the early game deficit vs. Minnesota (the "miracle") were both the result of the hangover from Oregon. Michigan then went on to crush 3 top-10 ranked opponents. There's a reason Michigan was the top 2-loss teams in both polls.

and also remember USC has lost just 3 games in the last 2 seasons, 2 in over time (to WASU last year, and obviously CAL this year )and the 3rd by 5 (IIRC) points

and spanked IOWA (#2 in big 10) in last years orange bowl

:D

If last season counted than OSU(ohio) would there with USC.
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Mani

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Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: Mani
Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: Mani
Originally posted by: Dedpuhl
Originally posted by: Mani
USC would own. It's not possible to stop their offense - the only way USC can lose is if they kill themselves.

They have so many dependable recievers between their TEs and wideouts, that LSU's biggest defensive advantage, the blitz, will be nullified - noone can dump the ball of better than Leinart. Think about it, they annihilated a Washington State team that calls blitzes on every play which were able to stop Vince Young at Texas.

Leinart is also a freaking surgeon - he was able to pick apart Michigan's secondary - ranked among the top 3 in the nation which had only allowed something like 5 TD passes ALL SEASON. USC hung up 4 passing TDs by themselves. Leinart's precision combined with his recievers' amazing amount of raw talent and fact that they are the best coached offense in the nation = unstoppable.

....wishful thinking.

Spoken like a true LSU fanatic.

I have no allegiance to either school - my take is based on watching both schools play all year.

I hate LSU, but they'd whoops USC's ass. You're just a USC fan because your team choked vs them. If USC wins it doesn't make you feel as bad.

I knew USC was by far the best team in the nation way before Michigan played them - my story would be no different if you had asked me 3 weeks ago. You just say LSU because they are an SEC team.

I keep hearing people say that LSU would whoop USC's ass, yet in 52 posts, not a single one has said HOW. I gave perfectly logical reasons for why USC would win. If you want to provide reasons why LSU would win (besides "they have a good D") I'd love ot hear them. I'd love to hear how their defense can stop an offense that has a counter for everything. Or how Matt Mauck and a freshman running back are going to compete against what may be the best front 4 in the nation and a lightning-quick secondary.

The same way CAL did. Passing the ball.

If you have watched USC throughout the season you would know that the USC team of today doesn't even remotely resemble the team that played Cal.
 

Mani

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Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: Mani
Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: kalster
well when USC beat Michigan it was coz michigan choked

but when LSU beat Oklohoma it was coz they got Owndd by LSU, i dont understand that logic

OSU had one loss and dominated all year. Michigan had 2 and had several miracles to even have only 2 losses. They could have easily had 3 or 4.

Mich's 2 losses were by a total of 7 points. Just 7 measly points is all that seperated them from being undefeated. The loss at Iowa and the early game deficit vs. Minnesota (the "miracle") were both the result of the hangover from Oregon. Michigan then went on to crush 3 top-10 ranked opponents. There's a reason Michigan was the top 2-loss teams in both polls.

You should recheck your facts...

Feel free to correct me if you think I'm wrong.
 

Mani

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Originally posted by: Mill
BTW, look at the results of the poll...

I'd prefer to go off of the official polls. One currently has USC at #1, and the other did until it had to fulfill its contractual obligation with the BCS.
 

kalster

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Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: kalster
Originally posted by: Mani
Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: kalster well when USC beat Michigan it was coz michigan choked but when LSU beat Oklohoma it was coz they got Owndd by LSU, i dont understand that logic
OSU had one loss and dominated all year. Michigan had 2 and had several miracles to even have only 2 losses. They could have easily had 3 or 4.
Mich's 2 losses were by a total of 7 points. Just 7 measly points is all that seperated them from being undefeated. The loss at Iowa and the early game deficit vs. Minnesota (the "miracle") were both the result of the hangover from Oregon. Michigan then went on to crush 3 top-10 ranked opponents. There's a reason Michigan was the top 2-loss teams in both polls.
and also remember USC has lost just 3 games in the last 2 seasons, 2 in over time (to WASU last year, and obviously CAL this year )and the 3rd by 5 (IIRC) points and spanked IOWA (#2 in big 10) in last years orange bowl :D
If last season counted than OSU(ohio) would there with USC.
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last season doesnt count obviously
all i am saying is no one has spanked USC and in the past 2 seasons as LSU fans believe (wrong ofcourse) they will(last year USC had the toughest schedule in all of Div I IIRC, so dont bring up the weak schedule agrument again)

 

Mill

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Originally posted by: Mani
Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: Mani
Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: kalster
well when USC beat Michigan it was coz michigan choked

but when LSU beat Oklohoma it was coz they got Owndd by LSU, i dont understand that logic

OSU had one loss and dominated all year. Michigan had 2 and had several miracles to even have only 2 losses. They could have easily had 3 or 4.

Mich's 2 losses were by a total of 7 points. Just 7 measly points is all that seperated them from being undefeated. The loss at Iowa and the early game deficit vs. Minnesota (the "miracle") were both the result of the hangover from Oregon. Michigan then went on to crush 3 top-10 ranked opponents. There's a reason Michigan was the top 2-loss teams in both polls.

You should recheck your facts...

Feel free to correct me if you think I'm wrong.

Sure thing.

August 30 Central Michigan W 45-7 1-0 (0-0 Big Ten)
September 6 Houston W 50-3 2-0 (0-0 Big Ten)
September 13 Notre Dame W 38-0 3-0 (0-0 Big Ten)
September 20 at Oregon L 31-27 3-1 (0-0 Big Ten)
September 27 Indiana W 31-17 4-1 (1-0 Big Ten)
October 4 at No. 12 Iowa L 30-27 4-2 (1-1 Big Ten)
October 10 at No. 20 Minnesota W 38-35 5-2 (2-1 Big Ten)
October 18 Illinois W 56-14 6-2 (3-1 Big Ten)
October 25 No. 13 Purdue W 31-3 7-2 (4-1 Big Ten)
November 1 at Michigan State W 27-20 8-2 (5-1 Big Ten)
November 15 at Northwestern W 41-10 9-2 (6-1 Big Ten)
November 22 No. 6 Ohio State W 35-21 10-2 (7-1 Big Ten)
January 1 vs No. 1 USC L 28-14 10-3 (7-1 Big Ten)


I see one win vs a top 10 team, and one fluke win vs a top 25 team. Care to try again?
 

Mill

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Originally posted by: kalster
Originally posted by: Mill
BTW, look at the results of the poll...

heh so , big deal, more ppl from SEC schools are on ATOT, wohooooo LSU ownzzzz man

I find that hard to believe since the whole population of the SE is barely close to the 58 million in CA, but whatever makes you feel better.
 

Mill

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Originally posted by: Mani
Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: Mani
Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: Mani
Originally posted by: Dedpuhl
Originally posted by: Mani
USC would own. It's not possible to stop their offense - the only way USC can lose is if they kill themselves.

They have so many dependable recievers between their TEs and wideouts, that LSU's biggest defensive advantage, the blitz, will be nullified - noone can dump the ball of better than Leinart. Think about it, they annihilated a Washington State team that calls blitzes on every play which were able to stop Vince Young at Texas.

Leinart is also a freaking surgeon - he was able to pick apart Michigan's secondary - ranked among the top 3 in the nation which had only allowed something like 5 TD passes ALL SEASON. USC hung up 4 passing TDs by themselves. Leinart's precision combined with his recievers' amazing amount of raw talent and fact that they are the best coached offense in the nation = unstoppable.

....wishful thinking.

Spoken like a true LSU fanatic.

I have no allegiance to either school - my take is based on watching both schools play all year.

I hate LSU, but they'd whoops USC's ass. You're just a USC fan because your team choked vs them. If USC wins it doesn't make you feel as bad.

I knew USC was by far the best team in the nation way before Michigan played them - my story would be no different if you had asked me 3 weeks ago. You just say LSU because they are an SEC team.

I keep hearing people say that LSU would whoop USC's ass, yet in 52 posts, not a single one has said HOW. I gave perfectly logical reasons for why USC would win. If you want to provide reasons why LSU would win (besides "they have a good D") I'd love ot hear them. I'd love to hear how their defense can stop an offense that has a counter for everything. Or how Matt Mauck and a freshman running back are going to compete against what may be the best front 4 in the nation and a lightning-quick secondary.

The same way CAL did. Passing the ball.

If you have watched USC throughout the season you would know that the USC team of today doesn't even remotely resemble the team that played Cal.

Sure sure.... but you have no proof of that because it was the same team.
 

Mill

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Originally posted by: kalster
Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: kalster
Originally posted by: Mani
Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: kalster well when USC beat Michigan it was coz michigan choked but when LSU beat Oklohoma it was coz they got Owndd by LSU, i dont understand that logic
OSU had one loss and dominated all year. Michigan had 2 and had several miracles to even have only 2 losses. They could have easily had 3 or 4.
Mich's 2 losses were by a total of 7 points. Just 7 measly points is all that seperated them from being undefeated. The loss at Iowa and the early game deficit vs. Minnesota (the "miracle") were both the result of the hangover from Oregon. Michigan then went on to crush 3 top-10 ranked opponents. There's a reason Michigan was the top 2-loss teams in both polls.
and also remember USC has lost just 3 games in the last 2 seasons, 2 in over time (to WASU last year, and obviously CAL this year )and the 3rd by 5 (IIRC) points and spanked IOWA (#2 in big 10) in last years orange bowl :D
If last season counted than OSU(ohio) would there with USC.
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last season doesnt count obviously
all i am saying is no one has spanked USC and in the past 2 seasons as LSU fans believe (wrong ofcourse) they will(last year USC had the toughest schedule in all of Div I IIRC, so dont bring up the weak schedule agrument again)

But this year was soft and last year they had 2 losses, so that still leaves you with the inablity to win big games or go undefeated.
 

kalster

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Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: kalster
Originally posted by: Mill BTW, look at the results of the poll...
heh so , big deal, more ppl from SEC schools are on ATOT, wohooooo LSU ownzzzz man
I find that hard to believe since the whole population of the SE is barely close to the 58 million in CA, but whatever makes you feel better.

even if so, i find it funny that you find this POLL more accurate than AP or Coaches (before being forced to vote according to a contract rather than choice) , you have lot of trust in ATOT for sure