OFFICIAL Lightning vs. Flames STANLEY CUP THREAD

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MrCodeDude

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No, Golf Calgary Golf

No one wants to Canada to have the Cup. When it return's to the states, we'd only see like, 2% of the Cup.

Stupid Canadian Exchange Rates.
 

monk3y

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Hehe are you and bootymac fighting for sole ownership of the thread with this topic? I thnk yours was started first so I guess this should be the official one.
 

rh71

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this thread is pretty sad... you should just go to the bolts' board and chant...
 

MrCodeDude

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Someone needs to drive Iginla's head into the boards. Then Andrychuk should argue the call.

Iginla is a goon oblivious to his gooness. No wonder his dad abondoned him.
 

rh71

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Originally posted by: MrCodeDude
Someone needs to drive Iginla's head into the boards. Then Andrychuk should argue the call.

Iginla is a goon oblivious to his gooness. No wonder his dad abondoned him.
Goons don't score like he does. Goons don't have heart like he does. Goons don't lead an entire team like he does.

With that said... good win for Tampa.
 

MrCodeDude

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TAMPA WINS!

Nemo better get 5 and a GAME. I really hope someone puts some pain into Iginla. He's been too whiney the whole series.
 

MrCodeDude

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Originally posted by: rh71
Goons don't score like he does. Goons don't have heart like he does. Goons don't lead an entire team like he does.
Hit from behinds into the boards is a penalty in itself. Driving someone's head into it is worse.

You didn't see Niemenen arguing, did you? No. You did see Iginla arguing, because he's a goon. Iginla and Calgary don't deserve the Cup, Iginla is a goon, always will be a goon.

Calgary has been pulling this sh!t the whole playoffs, they're finally called for some of it and Iginla has a hissy fit.
 

MrCodeDude

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Top-line forward Fedotenko misses Game 4

By IRA PODELL, AP Sports Writer
May 31, 2004
CALGARY, Alberta (AP) -- Tampa Bay's leading goal-scorer Ruslan Fedotenko sat out Game 4 of the Stanley Cup finals on Monday after slamming his face into the boards two nights earlier.

Lightning defenseman Pavel Kubina was also scratched after taking an elbow to the head early in Game 3.

Late in the Lightning's 3-0 loss Saturday in Game 3, Calgary defenseman Robyn Regehr drilled Fedotenko and as the right winger was going down, he struck the right side of his face where the boards meet the glass.

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He was at the arena Sunday and Monday but didn't take part in the morning skate before Game 4. He also didn't speak to reporters.

Tampa Bay coach John Tortorella said Fedotenko's status would be decided at game time. It was then that Fedotenko was scratched for Ben Clymer.

Fedotenko has 10 goals in the playoffs, including four on the Lightning power play that was potent before the finals against the Flames.

``He's been a force out there in the playoffs and it's time for other guys to step up,'' linemate Martin St. Louis said. ``That's playoff hockey. You can't just feel bad that guys can't go. You've got to move on.''

Fedotenko was face down on the ice for several minutes while he was given medical attention Saturday night. He managed to skate off under his own power but he wasn't well enough to play Monday when his team tried to tie the best-of-seven series.

Calgary coach Darryl Sutter was emphatic that the hit by Regehr was clean. He said Fedotenko was injured because of how and where he fell into the boards. Tortorella declined to give his opinion of the play.

Fedotenko sported a swollen and cut right side of his face the next day.

Kubina took the hard hit that led him to miss Game 4 in the opening minute Saturday. He was slammed by Martin Gelinas, who received a penalty.

Kubina has four assists in 19 playoff games and was replaced in the lineup by forward Martin Cibak.

Clymer made just his second appearance in these playoffs. The 25-year-old right winger has been waiting for a chance to play since Game 5 of the opening round against the New York Islanders on April 23.

He and the other regular scratches skated a little longer on Monday and took part in some extra drills to be ready if Fedotenko couldn't play.

``We've all taken the necessary steps that if we have to go in the lineup we'll be prepared,'' Clymer said before finding out he was in. ``That sort of thing has been taken care of.''

Going with Cibak left Tampa Bay with six active defenseman for Game 4. The Lightning had been using seven defensemen throughout the playoffs.
 

MrCodeDude

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Stanley Cup: Who cares?

By STEVE WILSTEIN, AP Sports Columnist
May 31, 2004
Outside of Canada and Tampa Bay, is anyone talking about the Stanley Cup final?

The television audience in the United States is minuscule. Coverage of the Calgary-Tampa Bay series in many newspapers has shrunken to a brief. It's a championship without a buzz.

On the surface, the NHL seems to be drifting from unpopularity to irrelevance, raising the question of whether it still deserves to be called a major league in this country.

Yet the fortunes and prospects for the league are not as bleak as they appear. There are big bucks in those pucks if the NHL makes a few smart moves and avoids a really dumb one.

Take the dumb one first: A lockout or strike that knocks out next season.

``That could be the death knell of the NHL,'' says Nye Lavalle, president of the Sports Marketing Group. ``The people who are paying $75 or $100 a ticket to see hockey are going to get fed up. They have many other choices for their time and money.''

Sponsors and advertisers, who have to budget and set up promotional plans in advance, already are worried about a prolonged labor dispute after the current contract between the NHL and the players union ends Sept. 15.

``It's hurtful for any sport,'' Lavalle said. ``It takes a long time, as we've seen from baseball, to come back from a lockout or strike. It would be much, much harder for the NHL to survive.''

NHL commissioner Gary Bettman warned again recently that owners are determined to reach a radically different labor agreement no matter how long it takes. The players union, he said, ought not to test that resolve.

``If this is a test to see if the owners really mean it, it's a shame to have to go through all the hardship that will entail to prove the point,'' Bettman said.

A recent economic study prepared for the league, challenged by the players but repeatedly cited by Bettman, concluded that players get 76 percent of all league revenues -- far more than the percentage for the other major team sports.

Changing that pay structure and going to an NFL-style revenue-sharing plan, which promotes parity and gives more teams a chance to win championships, is the NHL's top priority.

Even if the league succeeds in that, it still has a long way to go to build up its popularity.

``No. 1, the NHL has to reduce ticket prices to get people into the stands,'' Lavalle said. ``Once they get into the stands, they're hooked.''

The NHL also has to find ways to promote the personalities of players, particularly among young fans and women.

``Women love hockey,'' Lavalle said. ``I've talked to people in the front offices of a lot of sports and nobody understands who their fans are. Young men in the 18-to-34-year-old group and women should be the people the NHL targets.''

The league also should go to a European division, Lavalle said, to extend its reach and capitalize on the popularity of European players.

The influx of Europeans has raised the quality of play but made it more difficult for American fans to identify with them. More stable rosters and better promotion of players can change that.

One of the greatest challenges the NHL faces is making itself into a TV-friendly sport. The league already is packing arenas, averaging nearly 17,000 fans per game over the past three years, even with soaring ticket prices.

But traditional TV broadcasts haven't captured the speed and sounds of the game. In some movies, like last year's ``Miracle'' about the 1980 U.S. Olympic hockey team, the excitement of the sport comes through. On television, the game has seemed lost as cameras try to track a small puck on a large sheet of ice and miss the quick movements of players.

That's changing with the advent of sharper, more lifelike, high-definition TV broadcasts.

``It's the biggest innovation in televising hockey in the last 50 years,'' NHL senior vice president Doug Perlman said recently. ``It takes watching hockey to the next level.''

Though there are only about 10 million HDTV sets in use in the United States and fewer than a million in Canada, nearly one-quarter of the NHL's games this year were shown in high-definition this season.

``We're already seeing a huge impact on hockey,'' Perlman said.

The NHL is switching networks next season -- assuming there is a next season. NBC is back on the ice after 29 years, replacing ABC.

It's a modest but significant commitment by NBC over the next two years: seven regular-season games beginning in January and six playoff games in regular Saturday afternoon time slots. The network also will televise Games 3-7 of the Stanley Cup finals in prime time.

ESPN and the NHL also agreed to a deal to keep the league on ESPN2 next season, with options for the cable network to extend the deal for two more seasons.

All the pieces are in place for a comeback by the NHL. If the networks can figure out how to get the action in the arena to translate to the tube, and if the NHL can avoid one dumb move while making a few smart ones, the buzz just might come back to the Stanley Cup playoffs.

Steve Wilstein is a national sports columnist for The Associated Press. Write to him at swilstein(at)ap.org
 

MrCodeDude

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Sutter likes what he sees in Tampa Bay management

By IRA PODELL, AP Sports Writer
May 31, 2004
CALGARY, Alberta (AP) -- Darryl Sutter is quite impressed with Tampa Bay Lightning coach John Tortorella and general manager Jay Feaster.

Sutter, who holds both jobs with the Calgary Flames, has never had the opportunity to work with the pair but their accomplishments have earned his respect.

``Damn right,'' Sutter said Monday before his team put its 2-1 lead in the Stanley Cup final on the line.

Being in different conferences keeps the teams and the management staffs apart for most of the season. The Flames and Lightning only played each other once, with Tampa Bay winning 6-2 in Calgary on Jan. 24.

``You have allies over there that you can use, so there's a business relationship all the time,'' Sutter said. ``The Eastern side, if there's guys you don't know prior to coaching against them, or playing against them or whatever, then it is tough to get to know guys.''

TRAP ANYONE

Lightning forward Cory Stillman knows why the Calgary Flames are so effective with the lead.

It may or may not be a trap, depending on whom you ask, but the Flames do work to protect an advantage whenever they are able to grab one.

``They sit back and they're hungry to score,'' Stillman said Monday. ``They're just waiting for you to make a mistake, and when you do -- nine times out of 10 it's in our net.

``Their mentality is they have the lead, now make the team come 200 feet to score a goal.''

BURNING FLAMES

Defensemen for the Calgary Flames continue to get a workout in the Stanley Cup finals. Through three games against Tampa Bay, their top four blue-liners have all averaged more minutes than any of their opponents.

Robyn Regehr leads the charge with 26 minutes, 3 seconds per game. He's followed by Jordan Leopold (25:19), Rhett Warrener (23:36) and Andrew Ference (23:29).

Ference has seen the biggest jump in his minutes from the regular season, logging 4:50 more in the finals.

``I think that there's times where he's looked tired,'' coach Darryl Sutter said Monday. ``He's still playing a lot of minutes, so obviously he's playing really well.''

STATS LEADERS

Tampa Bay dominated in shots and faceoffs through the first three games against Calgary, yet only managed to win one game.

The Lightning won both categories in all three games.

In the opener, they had a 24-19 edge in shots and won 35 of 65 faceoffs in a 4-1 loss at home. Tampa Bay rebounded in Game 2 to win 4-1. The Lightning were helped in that one by a 31-19 shots advantage and a faceoff score of 47-23.

The Flames won 3-0 in Game 3 when they returned home. Calgary had just two shots in the first period, and only four in the third -- finishing with 18 compared to 21 for Tampa Bay. Again the Lightning dominated the draws, winning 41 of 72.

KEEPING CONTROL

Come out hard and rough, and stay smart.

It's what the Calgary Flames are looking for in their style of ``controlled chaos.''

``We have to show that we're almost out of control but with penalties and stuff like that we have to maintain everything within the rules,'' forward Chris Clark said Monday.

Calgary took the body to the Lightning in Game 3, racing to complete checks and even dropping the gloves when captain Jarome Iginla fought Vincent Lecavalier.

With a fired-up crowd behind them, the Flames looked to set an early tone on Saturday. Martin Gelinas landed a big hit in the opening minute, but he led with his elbow against Pavel Kubina and was sent to the penalty box after only 21 seconds had been played.

The Flames killed off that power play, just like they did 16 times in 18 short-handed situations in the first three games of the finals.

``Sometimes when you play physical you get penalties,'' forward Chris Simon said. ``Our team has done a great job killing penalties, that's one of our strengths. We've got to make sure that we don't let them get on the power play. They're such a great power-play team.''