Official GTX 590 Review Thread (23 reviews at this time)

[OCGuy]

The people still trying to equate overclocking with overvolting are hilarious...

HD6990 kicks sand in its face,throws it to the ground and wee wees all over it

Yep they are coming out of the woodwork now.


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[3DVagabond]

The people still trying to equate overclocking with overvolting are hilarious...

http://nvidia.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/nvidia.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=2947

In the web release driver of GeForce GTX 590, we have added some important enhancements to our overcurrent protection for overclocking. We recommend anyone doing overclocking or running stress apps to always use the latest web driver to get the fullest protection for your hardware. Please note that overcurrent protection does not eliminate the risks of overclocking, and hardware damage is possible, particularly when overvoltaging. We recommend anyone using the GTX 590 board with the reference aircooler stick with the default voltage while overclocking, and avoid working around overcurrent protection mechanisms for stress applications. This will help maintain GTX 590's great combination of acoustics, performance, and reliability. NVIDIA has worked with several watercooling companies to develop waterblocks for GTX 590, and these solutions will help provide additional margin for overclocking, but even in this case we recommend enthusiasts stay within 12.5-25mV of the default voltage in order to minimize risk.

These are guidelines only - any overclocking/overvoltaging can void your manufacturer's product warranty.

Well, nVidia doesn't really differentiate between them. Both can equally void your warranty.

 

[Will Robinson]

Im pretty sure what you just posted is not allowed.

You mean the quote from Kyle at [H]ardOCP...or the fact that its just plain slower?

 

[Will Robinson]

The people still trying to equate overclocking with overvolting are hilarious...



Yep they are coming out of the woodwork now.

Yeah we get that you love NVDA no matter how much their new card gets trounced or blows up.
I thought perhaps you'd acknowledge that in one of your posts but it seems benchmarks and reviewer's opinions are inconvenient facts to be discredited and ignored in favor of sniffy dismissals.:thumbsdown:
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[n0x1ous]

Yeah we get that you love NVDA no matter how much their new card gets trounced or blows up.
I thought perhaps you'd acknowledge that in one of your posts but it seems benchmarks and reviewer's opinions are inconvenient facts to be discredited and ignored in favor of sniffy dismissals.:thumbsdown:
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c'mon will, we get that you love AMD no matter what

 

[thilanliyan]

Nice try though. This card, whether you want to hear it or not, is an engineering marvel. Runs mid 80's under load and hums the fans at 50%.

Umm, turn the clocks down and undervolt and you can make pretty much any hot running card run cooler (and hence quieter). There's nothing marvelous about this card, and it certainly isn't an "engineering marvel"...not even close. If they somehow made the card faster, cooler, AND consume less power than the 6990, that you might consider an "engineering feat". I'm sorry but that "engineering marvel" comment irked me...it sounds like something someone in marketing would say, and I'm an engineer so I took offense lol.

Everything said above was with all due respect to you Keys. I'm not going to tell you how to post but that comment was a bit sensationalist and I don't think you are like that under normal circumstances (ie. when the forum is not at fever pitch due to a new card launch )

 

[Zanovar]

GTX590 overclocking
HD6990 kicks sand in its face,throws it to the ground and wee wees all over it

The man of reason speaks hahahah

 

[Zanovar]

These guys have been claiming a lot, I'm surprised no other review site has mentioned anything like that...

Unlike you no?,jeesus fookin christ

 

[SolMiester]

Im pretty sure what you just posted is not allowed.

I cant remember how many times this guy has been banned, the only time he comes to the forums is on a new product release...

 

[Zanovar]

The people still trying to equate overclocking with overvolting are hilarious...



Yep they are coming out of the woodwork now.

not really just laughing at you and at your claim that they wont be touching the voltages at such an expencive card give me a fookin break

 

[SolMiester]

not really just laughing at you and at your claim that they wont be touching the voltages at such an expencive card give me a fookin break

Well, I wouldnt overvolt!....$700US is far too expensive for me to be playing with warranties and technology I dont know enough about...

 

[badb0y]

Come on guys let's bring it down a notch, both sides are getting kind of crazy right now.

As for the incidences with the cards blowing up it seems that the drivers(or BIOS?) weren't doing their job right, I remember when I was testing my HD 6950 with it's stock cooler pushing 1.3v and 1000 core, the fan went ballistic trying to keep the temperatures down to about 80-90 degrees Celsius during Furmark.

 

[Zanovar]

Well, I wouldnt overvolt!....$700US is far too expensive for me to be playing with warranties and technology I dont know enough about...

exactly^^boom,if i could afford one i would be overvoltinig it,BOOM,ouch

 

[PingviN]

And what did he use for stability testing I wonder. Furmark?
Don't worry sweetums. Retail cards selling today will not have this worry.

Furmark has been the program for testing stability for quite some time now. If Nvidia or AMD don't like it, they can't really do much. "Guys, please don't use Furmark or you'll blow our engineering marvel up. Pretty please?"

Nice try though. This card, whether you want to hear it or not, is an engineering marvel. Runs mid 80's under load and hums the fans at 50%.

Indeed, let's compare it to GTX580 SLI and see just how far clocks has been pushed down. We already knew GF110 can run faster than the Cayman, but I'm sure that has nothing to do with power consumption or the size of the thing. Thing is, Nvidia can't run SLI GF110 faster than CrossfireX Cayman on a single board without blowing the power envelope. Downclock Cayman and you'll see it run cool and quite as well. Your "engineering marvel" is a fast chip being made slow.

This whole "we're quiet, you're not" feels like something Nvidia threw together because they couldn't beat the competition head on like they've done before.

 

[Silverforce11]

It seems CF 6990 even owns SLI 590 harder. AMD wins in quad scaling, crazy stuff.
http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforce-gtx-590-sli-review/12

 

[1h4x4s3x]

And, is it me or are guru3d's noise numbers slightly skewed?
Temperatures too. I guess he could learn a thing or two from Mr. Smith.

Fixed without a comment.

 

[Keysplayr]

Did I not just post a picture that showed the contrary? There's more to heat output than GPU temps, as the pictures show. But if you stay as ambiguous as possible, I suppose no one would call you out on it, right? I suppose NVIDIA is making if awfully difficult to be a fanboy nowadays.
Who's taking it as a personal crusade to personally attack anyone that posts something negative about the GTX 590? Your last few posts were strictly accosting those that did or just posting derailments for the sake of posting. If you'd like to answer my proposed questions go right ahead, but keep it civil and act like an adult.

Well, I wonder. Do you think it has gone unnoticed that one of the biggest AMD fans on this forum started the "Official" GTX590 launch/reviews" thread? and then the next 22 out of 24 posts were AMD fans? That's just page 1. I know you'll think it perfectly normal, but it isn't. AMD fan starts the thread of a launch this big, so it doesn't seem like the swarm of AMD fans descending on the thread are crapping on the whole launch. And you know the OP won't report derailment.
Good Move. I'm impressed.

 

[Keysplayr]

Umm, turn the clocks down and undervolt and you can make pretty much any hot running card run cooler (and hence quieter). There's nothing marvelous about this card, and it certainly isn't an "engineering marvel"...not even close. If they somehow made the card faster, cooler, AND consume less power than the 6990, that you might consider an "engineering feat". I'm sorry but that "engineering marvel" comment irked me...it sounds like something someone in marketing would say, and I'm an engineer so I took offense lol.

Everything said above was with all due respect to you Keys. I'm not going to tell you how to post but that comment was a bit sensationalist and I don't think you are like that under normal circumstances (ie. when the forum is not at fever pitch due to a new card launch )

Seriously Thilan? Loads of people said it couldn't be done. Yet here we are.
I think you should give credit where it is due and stop pretending that what was done wasn't amazing.

 

[Grooveriding]

Well, I wonder. Do you think it has gone unnoticed that one of the biggest AMD fans on this forum started the "Official" GTX590 launch/reviews" thread? and then the next 22 out of 24 posts were AMD fans? That's just page 1. I know you'll think it perfectly normal, but it isn't. AMD fan starts the thread of a launch this big, so it doesn't seem like the swarm of AMD fans descending on the thread are crapping on the whole launch. And you know the OP won't report derailment.
Good Move. I'm impressed.

This is ridiculous. There is not some conspiracy afoot here.

In the past some posters, more of the nvidia persuasion, started the threads related to AMD launches. Even went so far as to render their opinion in the OP in a negative fashion on the launch.

I just noticed the reviews were up and started putting them together.

Sorry there is no conspiracy afoot here. Rollo is gone from these forums, so that is the last verified and proven case of a video card company conspiring in these forums, and for the record, it was nvidia not AMD who was caught doing that here.

I think what is telling, is the deflecting of the fact GTX 590s are blowing up when overclocked in significant numbers amongst reviewers. It's totally relevant and not some conspiracy afoot. If 6990s blew up when you overclocked them, you can be bloody sure we would of heard all about it. Looks like the 6990 is the better engineered 'marvel', it's faster and doesn't blow up when you push it hard.

It's hardly derailment, it's pretty relevant.

 

[Arkadrel]

Since we re on the topic on conspiracy's, you guys notice how the nvidia cards usually are faster than the amd ones at lower resolutions? Well... you guys notice how many review sites uses 1024x768, 1280x1024, 1680x1050, resolutions in there tests?
Why? it makes no sense to buy a 6990 or a 590, and play in 1024x768 and have 300-400 fps in games. So why do they do it? favortisme is the only reason I can come up with.

It skewers the results of the benchmarks, and its insulting to see it done by reviewers. A exsample of this is Techpowerup.... which saddens me because I actually like their reviews normally.

Also notice how alot of review sites only test it in like 5-6 games? and then pick 5 games that are TWIMTBP titles? Why? again only reason I can think of is favortisme... a bad case of this is Guru3D, they went with 5 games that favor Nvidia cards, and crysis on the side (as a neutral/amd favored one).

Now this is probably bound to happend everytime with a card... but the number of reviewers doing this is crazy.

 

[3DVagabond]

Well, I wonder. Do you think it has gone unnoticed that one of the biggest AMD fans on this forum started the "Official" GTX590 launch/reviews" thread? and then the next 22 out of 24 posts were AMD fans? That's just page 1. I know you'll think it perfectly normal, but it isn't. AMD fan starts the thread of a launch this big, so it doesn't seem like the swarm of AMD fans descending on the thread are crapping on the whole launch. And you know the OP won't report derailment.
Good Move. I'm impressed.

I think you are confusing "disgruntled nVidia customer" with "one of the biggest AMD fans". The man is running triSLI 480's. No self respecting AMD fan would give 480's a second look, never mind buy 3 of them. You're just attempting to shoot the messenger here.

 

[PingviN]

Seriously Thilan? Loads of people said it couldn't be done. Yet here we are.
I think you should give credit where it is due and stop pretending that what was done wasn't amazing.

Said what couldn't be done? Running two GTX 580s on one board? That still hasn't been done. Wasn't the general opinion that dual GPU Fermi was not possible within the PCIe spec? Just like Antilles, Nvidia blew the bar with GTX590. For what should Nvidia be given credit? Congrats on almost beating the HD6990? Offering a more quiet, albeit slower, solution?

So please do tell what people said couldn't be done.

Meh, I'll just give massive credit for CUDA, PhysX, 3d Vision and the pretty boxes. I'd say that weighs up for the performance disadvantage and making GTX590 the winner. Hail to the king!

 

[Silverforce11]

It's 40W more than a 6990 non-OC mode, so what's that, 375 + 40? That is well over-spec so no, i don't agree its an amazing engineering feat considering they still had to downclock by over 20%.

 

[insurgent]

This thread is pretty one-sided... when's the next big launch? I'm pretty sure Nvidia won't take this sitting down, and AMD has been hitting their stride. It ensures great value for us consumers, which is perfect! Can't wait for 28nm.

 

[ZimZum]

Well, I wonder. Do you think it has gone unnoticed that one of the biggest AMD fans on this forum started the "Official" GTX590 launch/reviews" thread? and then the next 22 out of 24 posts were AMD fans? That's just page 1. I know you'll think it perfectly normal, but it isn't. AMD fan starts the thread of a launch this big, so it doesn't seem like the swarm of AMD fans descending on the thread are crapping on the whole launch. And you know the OP won't report derailment.
Good Move. I'm impressed.

You're bothered that OP is an "AMD fan"?! Why do you care? Happy Medium started the 6990 review thread , did that upset you as well? I find it amusing and slightly disturbing that you apparently keep track of every forum member's preferences when it comes to GPUs. You seem way too worked up over this stuff, relax its not that serious.