** Official Grand Theft Auto 4 (GTA4) ** Thread

[MmmSkyscraper]

Originally posted by: Guuts
I feel kind of silly asking this, but is there a "Save" function in this game, or does it only autosave after mission completions? Also, where's the "Exit"? I've looked in the settings, on the phone.... feeling really lame not being able to find the quit option... :-(

You can save the game manually by going into your safehouse and pressing a button when you're near the bed and get prompted to do so. On the XBOX, it's Y.

To quit the game on the XBOX, make sure your game is saved then press the big X button in the middle of the controller to pull up the system options and quit to the Dashboard. I imagine there's something similar on the PS3.

 

[Guuts]

Thanks.

I feel a little better now, heh.

 

[blurredvision]

Usually, my "quit" button is the big round circle on the front of my 360 after I save 🙂.

 

[SandEagle]

guys, i gotta admit .. I am losing the love for GTA IV. I could never get into the last 3 (III, san adreas, vice city) and was hoping this would be different. yeah, graphics are off the hook, but the gameplay/structure is all the same. i played a few missions, then did the free roam thing for a few hours........i am bored with it now. off to ebay .....

/weak rant

 

[gorcorps]

Originally posted by: rrahman1
guys, i gotta admit .. I am losing the love for GTA IV. I could never get into the last 3 (III, san adreas, vice city) and was hoping this would be different. yeah, graphics are off the hook, but the gameplay/structure is all the same. i played a few missions, then did the free roam thing for a few hours........i am bored with it now. off to ebay .....

/weak rant

No! The first few missions is all? That's hardly touching what's awesome about the game. The story and voice acting is better than any of the other games. It's going to seem the same if you just free roam since that's not going to showcase the new characters and dynamics.

 

[imported_Imp]

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: blurredvision

Originally posted by: mugs
Wait - you're using the interior camera view when driving? That seems like it'd be a lot harder.

There is no interior view, just two chase cams, a hood cam, and the "action" cam or whatever they call it.

Oh yeah, the hood cam is the one I saw. Didn't pay much attention to it since I don't like that viewpoint. I guess he was referring to the interiors of buildings then.

Ya, meant buildings. Typing with controller so sorry for being extra brief. PS3 uses one of the thumb buttons on the right in addition to the two triggers. I'm loving the ability to ride the breaks and keep a constant speed. Had my biggest 'wow' moment too when I hit a pillar and got ejected... motorcycles have an infinite supply of helmets, but no seatbelts😉.

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: blurredvision
Usually, my "quit" button is the big round circle on the front of my 360 after I save 🙂.

You're a more ambitious man than I am. I sit 3 feet away from my 360 and I still use the Xbox button on the controller to turn the system off. 😀

 

[Baked]

Originally posted by: rrahman1
guys, i gotta admit .. I am losing the love for GTA IV. I could never get into the last 3 (III, san adreas, vice city) and was hoping this would be different. yeah, graphics are off the hook, but the gameplay/structure is all the same. i played a few missions, then did the free roam thing for a few hours........i am bored with it now. off to ebay .....

/weak rant

That pretty much reflects the avg. attention span of your generation. None.

 

[mugs]

I can't believe it, but my wife just made a suggestion that helped me beat a mission. :Q

SPOILERS !!! SPOILERS !!! SPOILERS !!! SPOILERS !!! SPOILERS !!! SPOILERS !!! SPOILERS

I was doing the mission where you have to take out the three strip club managers. The first time I did it I started with the guy at the back of the building, because I found him last. I took out the guy at the door, but then the manager hit me with a shotgun before I was able to shoot him, and it was basically over from there since I had no body armor. I went toward the front and got into a firefight, and before I died I noticed that it said the other two guys were getting away.

Second time around I started from the front with body armor, figuring I could cut off the other guys as they tried to exit. No luck - there was a back door. I fought my way to the back, but by then the cops were on their way and I was cut down in a hail of gunfire as I exited.

Third time I went in, started with the guy in the back and killed both the guy at the door and the manager without getting hurt. Then it says the other two managers are escaping. I start to head toward the front when my wife says "why don't you just go out the back?" I did, and sure enough when I got around to the front I saw them getting in an SUV and taking off. Unfortunately the only car left in the parking lot was slow and handled like crap, but they made an unwise turn which allowed me to catch up and finish them off with a drive-by.

I feel stupid for not thinking of that idea to begin with. 😱

Niko is hilarious when he hails a cab when he's drunk, by the way.

 

[gorcorps]

Originally posted by: mugs

Niko is hilarious when he hails a cab when he's drunk, by the way.

I agree. I loled when I heard him yell "Hey YELLOW CAR! Slow down!"

 

[blurredvision]

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: blurredvision
Usually, my "quit" button is the big round circle on the front of my 360 after I save 🙂.

You're a more ambitious man than I am. I sit 3 feet away from my 360 and I still use the Xbox button on the controller to turn the system off. 😀

If it makes you feel any better, my 360 is on the bottom shelf on my entertainment rack, and I typically use my big toe to turn it off. 😀

 

[biggestmuff]

Originally posted by: gorcorps

Originally posted by: rrahman1
guys, i gotta admit .. I am losing the love for GTA IV. I could never get into the last 3 (III, san adreas, vice city) and was hoping this would be different. yeah, graphics are off the hook, but the gameplay/structure is all the same. i played a few missions, then did the free roam thing for a few hours........i am bored with it now. off to ebay .....

/weak rant

No! The first few missions is all? That's hardly touching what's awesome about the game. The story and voice acting is better than any of the other games. It's going to seem the same if you just free roam since that's not going to showcase the new characters and dynamics.

I have to side with rrahman1 a little. The story isn't really that different than the other GTAs. You start off doing petty crimes and then work your way up through the ranks taking out bigger crime boss. Big deal, same same. The voice acting is mediocre. The characters are great, though; Manny, Brucie, etc.

Outside of the graphics, level of detail and the decent AI of the pedestrians and drivers, the game doesn't bring anything new, but takes away some of the fun aspects of GTA:SA.

 

[hdeck]

Originally posted by: mugs
I can't believe it, but my wife just made a suggestion that helped me beat a mission. :Q

SPOILERS !!! SPOILERS !!! SPOILERS !!! SPOILERS !!! SPOILERS !!! SPOILERS !!! SPOILERS

I was doing the mission where you have to take out the three strip club managers. The first time I did it I started with the guy at the back of the building, because I found him last. I took out the guy at the door, but then the manager hit me with a shotgun before I was able to shoot him, and it was basically over from there since I had no body armor. I went toward the front and got into a firefight, and before I died I noticed that it said the other two guys were getting away.

Second time around I started from the front with body armor, figuring I could cut off the other guys as they tried to exit. No luck - there was a back door. I fought my way to the back, but by then the cops were on their way and I was cut down in a hail of gunfire as I exited.

Third time I went in, started with the guy in the back and killed both the guy at the door and the manager without getting hurt. Then it says the other two managers are escaping. I start to head toward the front when my wife says "why don't you just go out the back?" I did, and sure enough when I got around to the front I saw them getting in an SUV and taking off. Unfortunately the only car left in the parking lot was slow and handled like crap, but they made an unwise turn which allowed me to catch up and finish them off with a drive-by.

I feel stupid for not thinking of that idea to begin with. 😱

Niko is hilarious when he hails a cab when he's drunk, by the way.

when i did that mission i didn't have any cop troubles. i started w/ the guy in the front room so i could barricade myself in and kill the morons that tried to go through the door. then i just went out and chased down the other 2 by car.

 

[biggestmuff]

Originally posted by: hdeck

Originally posted by: mugs
I can't believe it, but my wife just made a suggestion that helped me beat a mission. :Q

SPOILERS !!! SPOILERS !!! SPOILERS !!! SPOILERS !!! SPOILERS !!! SPOILERS !!! SPOILERS

I was doing the mission where you have to take out the three strip club managers. The first time I did it I started with the guy at the back of the building, because I found him last. I took out the guy at the door, but then the manager hit me with a shotgun before I was able to shoot him, and it was basically over from there since I had no body armor. I went toward the front and got into a firefight, and before I died I noticed that it said the other two guys were getting away.

Second time around I started from the front with body armor, figuring I could cut off the other guys as they tried to exit. No luck - there was a back door. I fought my way to the back, but by then the cops were on their way and I was cut down in a hail of gunfire as I exited.

Third time I went in, started with the guy in the back and killed both the guy at the door and the manager without getting hurt. Then it says the other two managers are escaping. I start to head toward the front when my wife says "why don't you just go out the back?" I did, and sure enough when I got around to the front I saw them getting in an SUV and taking off. Unfortunately the only car left in the parking lot was slow and handled like crap, but they made an unwise turn which allowed me to catch up and finish them off with a drive-by.

I feel stupid for not thinking of that idea to begin with. 😱

Niko is hilarious when he hails a cab when he's drunk, by the way.

when i did that mission i didn't have any cop troubles. i started w/ the guy in the front room so i could barricade myself in and kill the morons that tried to go through the door. then i just went out and chased down the other 2 by car.

I took two attempts on that mission. The first try, I took out the manager in the front office with a shot to the head, then made my way through the club to the back door. I made it out, but died in the fight with the two managers in the SUV.

My second attempt was easier. You don't need to fight the bouncers. Just take out the manager in the front office, then run out the front door, jump into a car and chase down the SUV.

 

[purbeast0]

while this game is good for what it is, i truly cannot understand how this game scored so high w/its perfect 10's at various places. the control is just flat out bad in this game. that alone should warrant this game to not get a perfect score. the control frustrates me in this game a lot. crackdown and saints row controlled a lot better.

im going to be giving this game back to my coworker tomorrow.

 

[biggestmuff]

Originally posted by: purbeast0
while this game is good for what it is, i truly cannot understand how this game scored so high w/its perfect 10's at various places. the control is just flat out bad in this game. that alone should warrant this game to not get a perfect score. the control frustrates me in this game a lot. crackdown and saints row controlled a lot better.

im going to be giving this game back to my coworker tomorrow.

That's what I'm saying. It's a 8.5 or 9. This has got to be one of the most over-rated, over-hyped games to be released in a long time. Please, don't get me wrong. I really enjoy it, but just don't understand the God-like ratings. The always clunky, GTA controls haven't been improved. Good example with Crackdown. Those controls are smooth as butta! 😀

 

[Regs]

Originally posted by: gorcorps

Originally posted by: rrahman1
guys, i gotta admit .. I am losing the love for GTA IV. I could never get into the last 3 (III, san adreas, vice city) and was hoping this would be different. yeah, graphics are off the hook, but the gameplay/structure is all the same. i played a few missions, then did the free roam thing for a few hours........i am bored with it now. off to ebay .....

/weak rant

No! The first few missions is all? That's hardly touching what's awesome about the game. The story and voice acting is better than any of the other games. It's going to seem the same if you just free roam since that's not going to showcase the new characters and dynamics.

I love the game, but I do admit I'm getting so sick of chasing...shooting...chasing...shooting. It's almost a cliché in the game . Guy walks in and announces he's going to kill him like it's the beginning of the Kentucky derby..."And they're off!!" *beagle horns*. Jesus, why don't they have the guy come walking in with a one-man-band set, a whole cheerleader squad, and a circus elephant carrying the banner "Run Now BEFORE I KILL YOU".

Other than the lack of espionage in the game, it's actually quite immersive. The whole city just feels more alive and interactive , and more importantly, so do the characters.


But to sum up the bad...crap controls and crap auto aim which sometimes equals frustration.

Frustration could be alleviated by a save anywhere feature so I don't have to spend an hour over and over driving back to retake the mission. I was never so pissed when I had to save someone from some place....got into the car thinking it was safe and the mission was over (after 20 mins of gameplay) only to have the car explode running into a acetylene gas tank somewhere hidden outside.

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: biggestmuff

Originally posted by: purbeast0
while this game is good for what it is, i truly cannot understand how this game scored so high w/its perfect 10's at various places. the control is just flat out bad in this game. that alone should warrant this game to not get a perfect score. the control frustrates me in this game a lot. crackdown and saints row controlled a lot better.

im going to be giving this game back to my coworker tomorrow.

That's what I'm saying. It's a 8.5 or 9. This has got to be one of the most over-rated, over-hyped games to be released in a long time. Please, don't get me wrong. I really enjoy it, but just don't understand the God-like ratings. The always clunky, GTA controls haven't been improved. Good example with Crackdown. Those controls are smooth as butta! 😀

I agree. It's a great game, but right now the two versions are in the top two spots on Gamerankings. I really don't think it deserves that. 90-95% maybe, but not 99.6%. It has enough faults that it doesn't deserve that. I haven't spent a ton of time with the multiplayer, so maybe I'll think more highly of it if I get 100 hours out of the game.

 

[Tommouse]

The multiplayer is fantastic. My favorited would be the GTA race with "Cannonball Run." Everyone starts out on foot and with no weapons and it is a mad dash to get cars then to the checkpoints/finish. The only thing that would make this mode better would be teams of 2. So one person could be shooting the competition and setting the way points.

Cops and Crooks is also pretty darn good. You end up with lots of crazy chases/gun battles.

 

[zorrt]

Originally posted by: gorcorps

Originally posted by: rrahman1
guys, i gotta admit .. I am losing the love for GTA IV. I could never get into the last 3 (III, san adreas, vice city) and was hoping this would be different. yeah, graphics are off the hook, but the gameplay/structure is all the same. i played a few missions, then did the free roam thing for a few hours........i am bored with it now. off to ebay .....

/weak rant

No! The first few missions is all? That's hardly touching what's awesome about the game. The story and voice acting is better than any of the other games. It's going to seem the same if you just free roam since that's not going to showcase the new characters and dynamics.

Agreed. When I first started it I thought man this game sucks. But the story is actually pretty good and funny at times.

 

[Beev]

Well I beat the game yesterday. What a fantastic piece of software. I think the online will keep me busy for quite a while.

 

[Riverhound777]

Originally posted by: Beev
Well I beat the game yesterday. What a fantastic piece of software. I think the online will keep me busy for quite a while.

Did you ever find something to spend your money on? Don't say what, but I'd just like to know. So far I don't see a point to having more than $1k to buy ammo.

 

[IceBergSLiM]

Originally posted by: Beev
Well I beat the game yesterday. What a fantastic piece of software. I think the online will keep me busy for quite a while.

how many hours?

 

[Beev]

Originally posted by: Riverhound777
Did you ever find something to spend your money on? Don't say what, but I'd just like to know. So far I don't see a point to having more than $1k to buy ammo.

Nope, just guns. I saved 500k for the achievement though.

Edit: Oh and I died quite a bit (way more than any of the past GTA's) my stats page says I've spent 175k on hospital bills.

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
how many hours?

33, just shy of the 30 hour achievement 🙁 But I did a bunch of extra stuff that I didn't need to early on, then tried to rush towards the end to hit the deadline, then slowed back down again when I knew I couldn't do it.

I'm at 199 pigeons too, getting the last one will be a real pain in the ass.

 

[Riverhound777]

Originally posted by: Beev

Originally posted by: Riverhound777
Did you ever find something to spend your money on? Don't say what, but I'd just like to know. So far I don't see a point to having more than $1k to buy ammo.

Nope, just guns. I saved 500k for the achievement though.

Edit: Oh and I died quite a bit (way more than any of the past GTA's) my stats page says I've spent 175k on hospital bills.

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
how many hours?

33, just shy of the 30 hour achievement 🙁 But I did a bunch of extra stuff that I didn't need to early on, then tried to rush towards the end to hit the deadline, then slowed back down again when I knew I couldn't do it.

I'm at 199 pigeons too, getting the last one will be a real pain in the ass.

Well that is dumb. I wonder why they would do that. I assume you got a new phone, did the text color change? I hate the phone you start with, I can't read a damn thing on it, and I can't change the text size either. I go into options and it says Text: Large and it doesn't have any other option that I can see.