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Fourteen

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Originally posted by: Paradoxx
Does anyone know if there is a way to power down the LAN port when the computer is off. It blinks away all night and is a bit distracting.

Unplug your network cable.
 

Skoal

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BTW, anyone knows which PATA to SATA adapter works with 8KNXP?

I'm using the highpoint "rocket 100" or something like that... with a maxtor 80gb ata133 8mb cache... works great.

 

Allen7

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Originally posted by: Skoal
BTW, anyone knows which PATA to SATA adapter works with 8KNXP?

I'm using the highpoint "rocket 100" or something like that... with a maxtor 80gb ata133 8mb cache... works great.

Thanks for the info.
 

Rkemery

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I would like to add my comments on the Gigabyte GA-8IK1100 motherboard.

Packaging, layout, and features/overclocking.

1) Packaging
The Gigabyte GA-8IK1100 comes with everything you will need, mind you this is a "no-thrills" motherboard. I personally like it that way.

One Floppy Cable, One ATA 100/133 Cable, Two Red S-ATA Cables, One USB 1.0/2.0 I/O Slot Adapter, One Firewire IEEE-1394 I/O Slot Adapter, One I/O Backpanel Bracket for your ATX Case, Manual (Which along with the BIOS leave something to be desired in the grammar department you will see things such as "Overclock bad, cpu fry", or "No work" as an example), Driver CD with Application Software.

2) Layout

The Gigabyte GA-8IK1100 has a clean, simple, and well-flowing layout for a board. The IDE connectors are well placed with little-or-no problems associated with spacing. The same applies to the Floppy connector. The 4-Pin Power connector that is located by the Mosfet array, and Socket is well-placed I had no problem making the cable seem almost like it wasn't there by moving it down on the motherboard, and around the heatsink. The ATX connector which is above the Floppy connector seems well-placed I had no large issues with the ATX connector getting in the way (I do have my connector zip-tiped to allow only the correct amount of slack for it to connect, but overall you have very little space to the ATX connector, and nothing in it's way).

The Gigabyte GA-8IK1100 has three 3-pin fan connectors. The only issue I had with this was the System fan connector. I own four Mechatronics 80x25 Case Fans, that all have a white RPM 3-pin cable, but none of them could reach the System fan connector which is slightly to the left of the last PCI slot on the Motherboard. If you use Smart-FAN like I do it willl make for the FAN to ramp up the rpm as the CPU becomes ever-so close to 60 degrees centigrade. You'll want to hook your CPU fan into the CPU fan connector that is located by the socket on the edge of the motherboard, and again no problem with the connection here. Also, the fan for a brief period will run at full rpm whenever you restart your machine, because at that point you basically lose BIOS control.

You do not have access to on-board tempature monitoring a.k.a you'll never be able to see the ambient tempature inside your case. There is no on-board sensor available for this motherboard. Another thing, which problem is my personal problem the motherboard has no clear cmos jumper a little more of a pain, and risk to go fishing out your CMOS battery every time you want to clear the cmos. Now do take this into consideration on the PCB the markings for clear cmos just no pins are present.

Another thing if you really do care as I said above you only get one of each Firewire, and USB I/O Slot Adapter. Well the motherboard itself has two for each connector on the motherboard. I personally chose the USB 2.0 one (Since there is also a 1.0 one too), and the Firewire_1 (No difference except how you connect them on the Firewire side).

Six DDR slots, and a maximum of 4GB of installable memory. I was worried about fitting my Thermalright SLK-900u (Which is most likely the most time-consuming, tedious heatsink to install) onto this motherboard, and having it not block DIMM_1. Don't worry it does not block DIMM_1, but it is one interesting fit, and a very close one at that. The space inbetween DIMM_1, and the heatsink is very small. Basically the rundown on Dual Channel. You'll need two "matched" (in size, and speed) sticks of ram for best performance. You should install them in an Odd/Even way. What does that mean? Well if you use DIMM_1 you'll use DIMM_4 as it's predocessor. DIMM_2, then DIMM_5 is your selection, and what about DIMM_3, DIMM_6 is it. The manual has all the combonations possible.

The PCB of the motherboard is I believe 4-layer (as such all 875P), with rounded edges. It's dark blue, and smells like a new motherboard :). The capicators are high-quality it appears. The AGP slot is a PRO slot that is green has a spacer inserted into it, just a small note if you want to use a PRO card you'll need to take that little white spacer that is in the slot out.

The jumpers are just like any other jumper-set. Hard to reach, and confusing to follow. At least the manual tells you what is positive, and what is negative.

The Northbridge HSF is tall, and big. A nice addition for keeping the Notherbridge cool. The Intel 10/100 Ethernet processor is located by the actual on-board Ethernet port.

Features/Overclocking

** NOTE: To access the advanced overclocking menu when in the bios menu, press CTRL+F1 **

System Configuration:
Gigabyte GA-8IK1100
Enermax 465 Watt PSU
Pentium 4 2.4C 800Mhz - Week 17 from Malaysia
(2) Mushkin PC-3500 DDR Memory Modules with copper heatspreaders
Thermalright SLK-900U Heatsink with Thermaltake Smartfan 80x25 (Artic Silver II applied)
ATI Radeon 9500 non-pro
M-Audio Revolution

Dual-bios: I looked into this, it looks like a good addition you can go into the dual-bios menu and configure it. You can boot from either the main, or backup bios, and have it perform auto-recovery.

When I had everything installed I promptly booted the machine for the first time everything went well, and it posted just fine. I then started overclock the setup. We must first see that the Gigabyte GA-8IK1100 uses not Memory ratios but Memory multipliers for it's clock operation. You have the following choices of Auto (Will negotiate to the safest setting), 1.33, 1.66, and 2.0. The simple math here is FSB * Multipler. So if you had 250 FSB at a Multipler of 2.0 your memory is going to run at 500Mhz. I myself would preffer ratio's, but this method works at least. You also can set the PCI/AGP/S-ATA to statically to any rage from 33/66/100 in one mhz increments to basically the point where your hard-drive engulfs in a ploom of smoke from overclocking your PCI bus to high ;)

** NOTE: The included "Easy Tune" application is only easy for reading the RPM of sensors, and Tempature of your CPU. In any other case it'll most likely give you inaccurate results, and also the PCI/AGP/S-ATA mhz reporting is borked, and I have heard the overclocking feature just plain doesn't work **

CPU overclocking is easy set your desired FSB rate, and Memory divider and be on your merry way. The problem with this current board is simple, I could not (and have read some others) reach anything above 250/255 Mhz. The system will throw up all signs of "I'm not working" random reboots, freeze in bios, to no post.

The only way I have accomplished 250 Mhz with this board is to run Agp 4x, DDR voltage +3, and AGP voltage +3. Any other settings than these will produce the "I'm not working" ways. I personally believe this is a motherboard limitation. I can run the memory all the way up to 460Mhz at Cas-2.5 with no problems if I lower the FSB to more resonable levels like 225. I have not modified my Vcore which can be modified from .9 to 1.7 in small increments.

When you press CTRL+F1 you'll have access to more bios options, and in the advanced bios menu you'll have the ability to change the memory timings. I have not messed around with these settings, but I am running Cas-2.5. You will have access to enable "Top Performance" mode, which in my case makes the computer unable to boot at 250Mhz. You'll also be able to Enable/Disable some advanced CPU-Chipset options under the advanced bios section.

I'm happy with my 600Mhz overclock, the highest I've overclocked any processor so far! Pretty happy I'm running the memory at 415Mhz (FSB * 1.66), but wish I could run it faster. Overall it's been stable, I have no other issues except those outlined. I'm happy with my purchase, and the price was right on the motherboard.
 

Macaw

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Reading through here and then reading the comments at NewEgg I can't figure out what RAM works. All I hear is that it's super picky about RAM.

Will "OCZ 1024MB (512MBx2) EL DDR PC-3200 Platinum Edition Enhanced Latency Series, Model OCZ4001024ELDCPE" work? By work I mean run in dual-channel etc.
 

daniel1113

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If you go to the Motherboard Monitor website (http://mbm.livewiredev.com/) and click the "Motherboards" link on the left, you will find the 8KNXP listed with the correct sensors to use. I hope this helps. If not, I will check out my configuration when I get home.
 

VSEKH

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I've got a Gigabyte 8KNXP motherboard with i875 chipset. I currently have 2 serial ata hard drives connected to the Intel ICH5R controllers in Raid ready format so that I can utilize 6 drives. Whenever I shutdown my system, I hear about 11 clicks before the system shuts down. I figured out it was the ICH5R controller. Whenever I setup the SATA controllers as Primary IDE, I do not get these clicking noises during shutdown. But, I lose an IDE controller.
I have left the system alone for now. The performance is great.

I checked with Intel and Gigabyte regarding these noises. Both claim that they have not heard of this and recommended that I get my motherboard replaced. But, before I get it replaced, anyone else with this or another i875 motherboard get this clicking noises during shutdown and have found a resolution?

Thanks
 

Paradoxx

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Originally posted by: daniel1113
If you go to the Motherboard Monitor website (http://mbm.livewiredev.com/) and click the "Motherboards" link on the left, you will find the 8KNXP listed with the correct sensors to use. I hope this helps. If not, I will check out my configuration when I get home.

I have Found that you cannot run the Gigabyte EasyTune utility and MBM at the same time, it screws up the temp readings. I was trying to check MBM's results against Easytunes and was freaked out when they both started reading 95c.
 

Paradoxx

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I have my 8knxp up and running fine, I have not installed the Intel Application Accelerator. Is this something that I should go ahead and install or is it too late? What benefits will I see, and how do I know which version to use? I looked on the intel page and it says that the 875p chipset is not supportd by Application Accelerator:

"Note: The Intel Application Accelerator is not compatible with the Intel® 875P, 865G/P/PE, 852/855 GM/GME, 855MP, 815EM chipset, the Intel® 440 chipset family, or any earlier Intel chipsets."

But in this thread some of you list it in the order of driver installation, is it wrking for you?
 

nova41

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Hi guys,

I'm trying to install a copy of windows on my system with the 8knxp board as well. I'm using 2 maxtor 120 GB SATA drives in RAID O with the Silicon Image controller. The installation program loads from the windows CD, I provide the drivers for the Sil chip without any problems and the system promptly recognizes the 2 drives as one big drive. Formatting also goes by without any problems. However, when installation files begin being copied over all hell breaks loose. The program often says that it couldnt copy the file over properly to the hard drive and that the copy on the hard drive is invalid. It lets me retry the copy and sometimes it works. But then a files later the same thing happens. Also, sometime when I try to install windows halts again and says that there was an error in setupdd.sys or sometimes that "IRQL NOT LESS OR EQUAL". I've replaced the hard drives, and the WinXP CD-ROM but still can't get the errors to go away. If you guys have any ideas, wheter a cable may be connected incorrectly or anything, please let me know. In terms of hardware config, I've got a 3.2 GHz P4 running with 4 512 Mb sticks of Corsair TwinX PC3700 RAM all running at bios default speeds and timings. Thanks!
 

VSEKH

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Have you tried to change the memory SPD settings to manual and have less stringent settings? I had to set Cycle time to 6, RAS # to CAS# Delay to 3, and RAS# Precharge to 3.
 

nova41

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The timing adjustment worked! I changed the CAS latency from 2.5 (That was WAY out of recommended spec) to 3 and havent had any problems since.
 

VSEKH

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Glad this worked for you. I might move my SATA drives that I am running in non-raid format to the Silicon Image soon. I am currently using the Intel SATA controller in raid ready mode so that I do not lose my 2 onboard IDE controllers, but I get clicking noises from both hard drives during shutdown. My system takes about 30 seconds to shutdown.
 

VSEKH

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Originally posted by: Paradoxx
I have my 8knxp up and running fine, I have not installed the Intel Application Accelerator. Is this something that I should go ahead and install or is it too late? What benefits will I see, and how do I know which version to use? I looked on the intel page and it says that the 875p chipset is not supportd by Application Accelerator:

"Note: The Intel Application Accelerator is not compatible with the Intel® 875P, 865G/P/PE, 852/855 GM/GME, 855MP, 815EM chipset, the Intel® 440 chipset family, or any earlier Intel chipsets."

But in this thread some of you list it in the order of driver installation, is it wrking for you?


The current IAA is only if you are running the SATA controllers in raid format.
 

Psyclone

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Anyone have this board and running Geil memory?

I purchased this board and purchased two sticks of Geil 256 Ultra Platinum PC3500 433 DDR from Newegg to go with it. Well imagine my dismay when it gave me the 'No memory installed' beeps when I went to boot. Thinking that it couldn't be my memory, I sent the board to RMA. 3 weeks after receiving it they finally get to it and tell me that it tests fine with 400mhz and kingston hyperx pc3500. They are now wrapping it up and shipping it back. 3 weeks to find this out - UGH.

I'm curious if any of you have successfully used Geil pc3500 in this board so that I can make some determination of whether or not my memory is bad or just doesn't work in this board.

Thanks,

-John
 

Allen7

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Originally posted by: Psyclone
Anyone have this board and running Geil memory?

I purchased this board and purchased two sticks of Geil 256 Ultra Platinum PC3500 433 DDR from Newegg to go with it. Well imagine my dismay when it gave me the 'No memory installed' beeps when I went to boot. Thinking that it couldn't be my memory, I sent the board to RMA. 3 weeks after receiving it they finally get to it and tell me that it tests fine with 400mhz and kingston hyperx pc3500. They are now wrapping it up and shipping it back. 3 weeks to find this out - UGH.

I'm curious if any of you have successfully used Geil pc3500 in this board so that I can make some determination of whether or not my memory is bad or just doesn't work in this board.

Thanks,

-John


I am using the same Geil memory except I am using 2x 512mb sticks. Runs fine now at 216MHz stable and 220MHz at times, but it was a disaster in the begining. Experienced the same problem as you, but I had couple sticks of Corsair 3700 availabe to verify the board is in good working order.

When you get your board back, clear the bios first (I dont think 8KNXP is too smart about memory swaping) and see if the system boots. Go into the bios and set the DDR voltage to 2.8V (+0.3V) and leave everything else default during window installation.

Once window is up you can start fooling around the settings, I got it running at 432Mhz/216x2 (Bios had auto configure to only 345Mhz/216x1.66) stable. But with any kind of voltage jolt, like pulling the power cord off when the system is powered on, could cause the board not recognize the memory. and had to clear bios.

Also don't expect it to run CAS 2-6-3-3, mine are running CAS 2-8-4-4. Any faster will cause window not to load properly.

Good luck!!!

Allen



 

VSEKH

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I agree with Allen7. This mobo is not good detecting SPD. I had to manually change everything to 3 and Cycle time to 6 for my system to boot up at all.
 

sillen

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Should I use the SATA Raid or GigaRaid ?

Gonna install a 160gb ATA IDE as bootdisk.. then have 2x120 sata raid0, then a 250gb ATA for storage.
whats the best way to connect theese? wich way gives best performance..
 

rkrispies

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This was originally supposed to be posted in this thread, but since I am a junior and kinda stupid, I posted in the motherboard thread.

So here it is:

I have not been able to get a clean install with the mobo/memory/settings/whatever combination.

A member told me that the memory I am using (Corsair TWINX1024-3200LLPT 1GB DR400) has had known issues with this board. He recommended HyperX pc 3500 which aparently was recommended by Gigabyte for this board.

Since this the official thread, here is my post:

My setup:
-GA-8KNXP
-P4 2.8, 800FSB
-Corsair TwinX1024-3200LLPT 1GB DDR400 XMS3200 Dual Channel
-Seagate Barracuda 7200 40 GB, then tried a Maxtor ultra133 7200 80 GB

My problem:
-cannot get a clean install of either XP Professional or 2000 Professional, and cannot get a properly functioning Windows environment

My errors:
-initial setup will not be able to copy certain random files
-many stop errors in the process
-if I get into Windows to complete the setup, I still get stop errors...sometimes fatal, runtime errors, catalog errors, etc.
-if Windows installs and I get all devices installed, I get still more stop errors and other errors.

Since that problem (which still exists) I installed my hard drive on another system and cleanly loaded XP. After reinstalling the HD back into the GA-8KNXP, I can now get to the Windows XP Professional loading screen (black background with the blue loading bars across the bottom). The member told me to up the DRAM voltage settings, which I did, and depending on those settings, the blue bars will make 1 1/4 to 1 3/4 passes then freeze and reboot.

Any thoughts on getting new memory, Corsair/GA-8KXNP conflict issues, recommended/currently working memory?
 

Allen7

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Originally posted by: rkrispies
This was originally supposed to be posted in this thread, but since I am a junior and kinda stupid, I posted in the motherboard thread.

So here it is:

I have not been able to get a clean install with the mobo/memory/settings/whatever combination.

A member told me that the memory I am using (Corsair TWINX1024-3200LLPT 1GB DR400) has had known issues with this board. He recommended HyperX pc 3500 which aparently was recommended by Gigabyte for this board.

Since this the official thread, here is my post:

My setup:
-GA-8KNXP
-P4 2.8, 800FSB
-Corsair TwinX1024-3200LLPT 1GB DDR400 XMS3200 Dual Channel
-Seagate Barracuda 7200 40 GB, then tried a Maxtor ultra133 7200 80 GB

My problem:
-cannot get a clean install of either XP Professional or 2000 Professional, and cannot get a properly functioning Windows environment

My errors:
-initial setup will not be able to copy certain random files
-many stop errors in the process
-if I get into Windows to complete the setup, I still get stop errors...sometimes fatal, runtime errors, catalog errors, etc.
-if Windows installs and I get all devices installed, I get still more stop errors and other errors.

Since that problem (which still exists) I installed my hard drive on another system and cleanly loaded XP. After reinstalling the HD back into the GA-8KNXP, I can now get to the Windows XP Professional loading screen (black background with the blue loading bars across the bottom). The member told me to up the DRAM voltage settings, which I did, and depending on those settings, the blue bars will make 1 1/4 to 1 3/4 passes then freeze and reboot.

Any thoughts on getting new memory, Corsair/GA-8KXNP conflict issues, recommended/currently working memory?


Have you tried lower the memory latency?

And to sillen, your useless suggestion is not welcome here.


 

rkrispies

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Have you tried lower the memory latency?

Here are the Freq/Volt control:

CPU Host Clock Control [enab/disab]
CPU Host Freq (Mhz) (auto sets it at 133 but ranges from 100 to 355Mhz)
AGP/PCI/SRC Fixed (auto sets it at 66/33/100
Memory Freq For [auto]
Mem freq (Mhz) (auto sometimes sets it to 266 and sometimes to 400)
AGP/PCI/SRC Freq (Mhz) (auto sets to 66/33/100)
DIMM OverVoltage Control [normal, +0.1V, +0.2V, +0.3V]
AGP OverVoltage Control [normal, +0.1V, +0.2V, +0.3V]
CPU Voltage Control [normal]
Normal CPU VCore [1.5250V]

That is about it. Let me know if you have a combo that you think will work. I have tried numerous configurations (maybe not the right one, though) without changing the CPU Voltage. Also, I would rather purchase new memory that works at max performance rather than making BIOS adjustments just to accomodate the current memory...if that makes sense.

Thanks!
 

Allen7

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Originally posted by: rkrispies
Have you tried lower the memory latency?

Here are the Freq/Volt control:

CPU Host Clock Control [enab/disab]
CPU Host Freq (Mhz) (auto sets it at 133 but ranges from 100 to 355Mhz)
AGP/PCI/SRC Fixed (auto sets it at 66/33/100
Memory Freq For [auto]
Mem freq (Mhz) (auto sometimes sets it to 266 and sometimes to 400)
AGP/PCI/SRC Freq (Mhz) (auto sets to 66/33/100)
DIMM OverVoltage Control [normal, +0.1V, +0.2V, +0.3V]
AGP OverVoltage Control [normal, +0.1V, +0.2V, +0.3V]
CPU Voltage Control [normal]
Normal CPU VCore [1.5250V]

That is about it. Let me know if you have a combo that you think will work. I have tried numerous configurations (maybe not the right one, though) without changing the CPU Voltage. Also, I would rather purchase new memory that works at max performance rather than making BIOS adjustments just to accomodate the current memory...if that makes sense.

Thanks!

Press ctrl + F1 at the main bios menu to access more settings in the Freq/Control page. Manully set the CPU and memory frequency to 200/400Mhz and set the DIMM to +0.3V. If CAS is 2, try lower it to 2.5, or 3 if SPD detect it as 2.5.


 

sillen

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actually Allen7, the suggestion is pretty valid as some ppl tend to download the os illegally and i know ppl who had problems with certain builds..