*** Official Giga-byte 8INXP Thread ***

[DKfire]

Hey!

Any trouble running this motherboard with ATI 9700 PRO ?
(read somewhere that the Asus 7205 board had issues with 9700 PRO)

Can you use DDR333 RAM ?

 

[caboob]

The board can run with the 9700 Pro but it is highly recommended to do a clean install of the OS and then install drivers as was outlined in the first page of this thread. I've had no problems with the 9700 pro installing by that method.

The board can use DDR333 but will use it at DDR266 speed at stock settings. You have to have a CPU that can overclock to 166MHz to get full use of the speed of DDR333 RAM (2x166 Mhz).

I personally have DDR400, might be overkill but I can carry it over to the new boards later coming out with 200Mhz FSB.

 

[Paveslave]

Originally posted by: caboob
I'll take st@b here but it seems like you should check to see if your heatsink is properly seated. Your idle temps seem high. The beeping sound is the thermal protection circuit on the CPU kicking in and thus will automatically clock itself down to prevent itself from burning up. On your heatsink install, did you peel the protective wrapper off the TIM?

I will check the Heatsink but I am pretty sure it is seated. My computer has been running good for a couple months now with no faults like this. I went into CMOS and watched the CPU Idle temps in there and it never moved from 40 Degrees so I think it could be a software problem, but I don't know. My idle temps have alway been in the high 30's and low 40's, is that too high? The room temp is usually around 70-75F. Is this thermaltake 7 HSF junk, should I put the OEM HSF that on that came with the 2.8?

 

[ofttd]

I had similar problems when I installed Motherboard Monitor...it doubled the true temp and the cpu overtemp alarm would beep...problem went away when I uninstalled MBM. Since the problem started with a software install I suspect that your problem is similar to the one I had. Hopefully that's all it is.

 

[Paveslave]

You unistalled the MBM and it went away? Did you fix your temp problem or are you just not monitoring it anymore? I am trying to trace it to a software conflict but I can't figure out what could be the cause. Could I have deleted a file or part of one that would interfere with the Temp readings. I don't just want to not monitor the temps anymore, but I would like to know what is causeing the flux. I am debating on getting some new thermalpaste and reseating the Thermaltake HSF, but I am almost certain that's not it. Unless the Thermaltake crapped out, maybe I should use the OEM HSF? I just don't want to mess with a good thing (changing HSF's) if that's not the problem. I will risk damaging the processor and in the long run not curing the problem. I went back into CMOS and watched the temps on the lowest thermaltake setting and the CPU fluxed from 41-43 degrees. Is that high for a 2.8 with the fan running at 2200 RPM? If I turn it up to max the CPU temp stays around 37 degrees. Anyone experience this kind of software issue, if it is a software issue? Would I benefit from reinstalling all my MB drivers? Would that cause a Temp flux?

 

[caboob]

I had similar problems when I installed Motherboard Monitor...it doubled the true temp and the cpu overtemp alarm would beep...problem went away when I uninstalled MBM. Since the problem started with a software install I suspect that your problem is similar to the one I had. Hopefully that's all it is.

I think Paveslave is using Easy Tune utility not Motherboard Monitor. And there is a way to fix the beeping in MBM.

Those BIOS temps in which your system is in an idle state seem high. try running the fan at high speed for a couple days and see if that stops the beeping. Switching over to a heatsink paste like AS2/3 is a good idea and will substantially lower your temps compared to a thermal pad.

 

[ofttd]

I did use the fix for MBM for the BIOS beep...checking the 'do not reset sensor' box, I believe, but that didnt help the high temp readings I was getting...After uninstalling MBM my readings are 37-39 idle and 44-46 full load. I am reading the temps in the Easy Tune program and in the BIOS.

Paveslave,
Those temps sound all right if you can get them down to 37 with the fan at full speed... you probably just need to find the 'sweet spot' for your fan speed to get to best temp....often you can come down speed wise quite a bit and the temp stays low. I think you are right in wondering if you should re-install your motherboard drivers to fix the erratic high temp problem youre having.

 

[poMONKey]

i use the thermaltake spark 7 too... it seems to be alright ( tho the noise is going to drive me INSANE )... i think im gonna get another hsf soon and try that out to see if it fixes my temp probs ( 41-43c idle / 50 - 60c load :| ... i have reapplied AS3 4 times now :Q )...

i am also going to reformat as soon as my 9700 pro gets here, start clean and fresh, but hopefully reinstalling the drivers and such will fix the temp prob before i get a new hsf... i figure that 6000 rpm and 50 cfm should be cooling my chip a little more than 41c idle!!! BTW: my temps are about the same with no OC as they are with a slight OC (150 fsb)...

 

[Paveslave]

Concerning the above mentioned problem,
Fixed... It's Fixed!! You wouldn't believe what it turned out to be. After troubleshooting it all day, uninstalling and re-installing drivers. I removed the DPS, flashed my bios to thew old version, reflashed to the new. I even called Directron and they were going to RMA me another motherboard to fix it. I reseated the HSF and kept the thermaltake on there, even though it's loud as heck.
Well, It turns out that the MOBO doesn't like the Parallel Iomega Zip drive that I installed and that's what was making my temp fluctuate. I tried to set it to a different port address instead of SPP, but it didn't like any of them. Well, I just removed it all together and will have to buy an internal one instead. To me, it just wasn't worth the hassle. Geez, what a crazy problem, but it's fixed now. Thanks for the help guys.

 

[poMONKey]

wow... i guess its good that there arent many posts here, considering most posts are about probs!

 

[Paveslave]

How do you adjust the memory timings on this board? I was just curious to see what they are set at in Bios but I can't find them.

 

[caboob]

when you get in the bios hold down the CTRL key and press F1. It will bring up a section called Advanced BIOS settings where the memory timing adjustments can be made.

 

[poMONKey]

ive heard that clearing the cmos is a pain in the a$$... havent got a response back on why its a pain in the a$$... just a warning.

BTW: what does the Refresh Mode Select do? if i change the setting to 7.8 us, will that make the refresh rate ( if i understand this right... ) faster therefore "better"??? its at 15.6 us now

 

[Paveslave]

Originally posted by: caboob
when you get in the bios hold down the CTRL key and press F1. It will bring up a section called Advanced BIOS settings where the memory timing adjustments can be made.

Thanks Caboob, I will try that when I get home tonight.

 

[highwayman]

I know this has been mentioned in various other threads about the 8INXP and AGP 8X but i fired off a email to Hecules and they have just come back and said they would RMA the card because i need a newer revision card.

The card works perfectly under AGP 4X but does have problems with AGP 8X. I know it makes very little difference, and pointed this out to Hercules, but they insist that i RMA the card.

So, maybe they have found something that can eventually works with this mobo and 9700Pro. Not sure what the latest revision is, but i thought i had the latest one. Appears not!!

 

[BillMeiggs]

I want to ask a question if I may?
I am assembling a new computer using a Giga-byte 8INXP mobo and a P4 3.06 cpu.
I understand that this takes DDR memory but can someone please suggest what type?
I get a little confused looking over the different ones.
I will probbaly not OC this.
Any suggestions would be highly welcomed !

Bill Meiggs

 

[caboob]

If you are SURE you're not going to overclock, then the board officially supports PC2100 DDR which should be really cheap at the moment but then PC2700 DDR is probably only a few dollars more so that leaves you with the option to overclock later to extend the useful life of the board. With that said, dont buy the cheapest RAM (like generic) you can get because there is a reason why it's cheap. Get RAM from major manufacturers like Crucial, Kingston etc.

 

[Paveslave]

Originally posted by: Paveslave

Originally posted by: caboob
when you get in the bios hold down the CTRL key and press F1. It will bring up a section called Advanced BIOS settings where the memory timing adjustments can be made.

Thanks Caboob, I will try that when I get home tonight.

Well,I tried it and I can't get to it. Pressing CNTRL and F8 get's me nowhere. Is there something I'm missing or could I not have that function. I just want to see what my RAM latency settings are and maybe set them to their lowest point.

 

[poMONKey]

Paveslave, dood... its ctrl-f1, like you quoted

 

[caboob]

 

[Paveslave]

Originally posted by: poMONKey
Paveslave, dood... its ctrl-f1, like you quoted

UM... OOPS, lol

 

[Paveslave]

Um, now I need some help. I changed my RAM settings to 2-7-2-2 and booted it up. My computer froze in Windows and I had to press the reset to get it shut down. When it booted up I was able to go into Bios and change it back to default, but it did the same thing in windows. On boot up it again the case just beeped and black screen. I didn't know how to work the dual bios deal so I just unhooked everything and popped the CMOS battery out for a couple of minutes. After I got it all together again and booted it up it froze during the ram checking. So, I took it apart and popped the battery out again and pulled out all the memory sticks and reseated them in different spots. This time it booted up but said I had a CMOS checksum problem and it loaded defaults and said to press F1 to continue. I did and it booted up to windows.
Now what do I do? Do I have to reload drivers or someting? My computer found all this new hardware Raid and multimedia hardware), why is that? Help!!

Another thing, why did my CPU clock get set to 100 after all of this? I have put it back to 133, but what the heck? I also just reset everything in BIOS to the way I had it before, so all seems to be good right now. Is there any way to work the dual bios feature better, can I load the F4 update to the other bios too?

 

[caboob]

Your BIOS has just been reset to all the defaults and by default all you onboard peripherals are enabled. In your BIOS, you need to go to the "Integrated Peripherals section and disable anything you arent using like the SATA controller, RAID controller, the onboard sound. I usually disable the serial address ports and parallel port as well if i know i'm not going to use it. On the next bootup, hopefully all should be good.

That's weird stuff happening with your RAM tho. sounds like its not very good.

 

[Paveslave]

I don't know what was up with the RAM either, but I had to give it a try. A lot of people reccommended the change in latency for better performace, so I wanted to try it. I don't know, maybe I didn't do it right. I think the stock setting was 2-6-3-3, not much of a difference. I know my RAM says it can go to 2.5, maybe that's why it went wacky. Anyway, everythings back to normal for now, hope it stays that way. Going to go play some Unreal to see how she's running, thanks for the help.

 

[BillMeiggs]

Ok I got some of my stuff in today mobo, cpu , case and etc.

I'm still looking into which memory to get and which after market cpu fan/heat sink do you recommend??

Thanks for the help in advance !!

Bill