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Official: Ford 2012 Police Interceptor based on Taurus

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PricklyPete

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I never said the ecoboost was bullet proof, I sad your definition is wrong.



No, bullet proof is a motor that does what is designed to do, and does it well, for an exceptional period of time with no significant issues. For example, do you think the designers of the AMC straight-6 family expected their design to carry on from 1964 to 2006?

I agree with crazySOB and all the others in this thread who state that the term "bulletproof" is used very commonly for an OEM engine that withstands the test of time. So reading this thread, it seems everyone agrees except wiretap...so he must be right.
 

wiretap

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I agree with crazySOB and all the others in this thread who state that the term "bulletproof" is used very commonly for an OEM engine that withstands the test of time. So reading this thread, it seems everyone agrees except wiretap...so he must be right.
Alright. I'll agree. Any OEM engine that meets or exceeds Ford's testing standards are bullet proof.
 

PricklyPete

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Alright. I'll agree. Any OEM engine that meets or exceeds Ford's testing standards are bullet proof.

I think you missed something along the line. No one other than c3p0 stated the Ford Engine is in fact bulletproof. What we all agree on (other than you) is that the term "bulletproof" definitely applies to OEM engines that are reliable. The Ford has not proven that yet in the real world(other than in testing). We're NOT arguing that c3p0 is correct with his assertion that the Ford product is reliable/bulletproof...just the fact that the term can and often is applied to OEM products that are reliable.
 

wiretap

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I think you missed something along the line. No one other than c3p0 stated the Ford Engine is in fact bulletproof. What we all agree on (other than you) is that the term "bulletproof" definitely applies to OEM engines that are reliable. The Ford has not proven that yet in the real world(other than in testing). We're NOT arguing that c3p0 is correct with his assertion that the Ford product is reliable/bulletproof...just the fact that the term can and often is applied to OEM products that are reliable.
Practically any motor manufactured in today's automobiles is considered reliable and comes with some sort of warranty. The term bullet proof being thrown around so loosely takes on almost no meaning. Because many 1990's Honda's last for >300k miles, does that make them bullet proof? No. It just makes them a reliable platform. The term bullet proof is used when something goes above and beyond.. hence it's surreal sounding verbiage.
 

EightySix Four

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Practically any motor manufactured in today's automobiles is considered reliable and comes with some sort of warranty. The term bullet proof being thrown around so loosely takes on almost no meaning. Because many 1990's Honda's last for >300k miles, does that make them bullet proof? No. It just makes them a reliable platform. The term bullet proof is used when something goes above and beyond.. hence it's surreal sounding verbiage.

Actual, I'd have to say a Honda motor that goes >300k miles is most definitely bullet proof.
 

PricklyPete

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Practically any motor manufactured in today's automobiles is considered reliable and comes with some sort of warranty. The term bullet proof being thrown around so loosely takes on almost no meaning. Because many 1990's Honda's last for >300k miles, does that make them bullet proof? No. It just makes them a reliable platform. The term bullet proof is used when something goes above and beyond.. hence it's surreal sounding verbiage.

Actually I believe most of us would say a mid 1990's inline-4 honda is bulletproof. Same with a 3800 series V6. Same with a Jeep inline 6. They are engines that require little care and still perform reliably for years/miles of use.
 

wiretap

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Damn, that fits the description of almost everything you can go out and get today. All these engines are bullet proof.
 

yh125d

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People use bulletproof to describe old honda/toyota engines like that all the damn time. Just because you think the rest of the world is using the vague terminology incorrectly doesn't mean we are.
 

LTC8K6

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Aren't those Chrysler Slant 6 engines considered bullet proof? That's why they used them in those engine oil additive demos, I believe.
 
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If there has been a more worthless thread in the AT Garage, I haven't seen it.

At least fleabag gives you the entertainment factor. I skimmed to the end of the thread and, to my surprise, people are still arguing over what "bulletproof" means. As if it were even possible to apply a proper definition to slang term used differently by different people. Can you two retards take the discussion to PM?


Anyway, I'm not surprised Ford decided to use the Taurus for the new Interceptor. Mulally has been all about reduced cost by platform sharing. I didn't expect them to create a new platform just for a cop car. It remains to be seen whether it will be as cheap to maintain as the Crown Vic.

I wonder if this hurts the image of the Taurus as a consumer vehicle. Do people want the same car as the police? Somebody suggested re-using the old Taurus/500 body for the Interceptor. It seemed like a good idea to me. Squeeze some more volume from tooling that's already been paid for. And reduce the negative stigma associated with dumping cars into fleets.

Does look kinda cool though...
 
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fbrdphreak

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If there has been a more worthless thread in the AT Garage, I haven't seen it.
But, has there been a more bulletproof thread? I THINK NOT!

Hehehe

My threads seem to do that lately. I post about a particular topic and some jerkwad derails it. I inevitably go over the deep end as a result and every one regrets what happened.
 

EightySix Four

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But, has there been a more bulletproof thread? I THINK NOT!

Hehehe

My threads seem to do that lately. I post about a particular topic and some jerkwad derails it. I inevitably go over the deep end as a result and every one regrets what happened.

Sorry if you felt I derailed your thread, I saw someone willing to fight over something stupid and decided to have fun. As I said earlier, it was better than working on my research paper.

I am bothered by the switch to a unibody structure for police duty, it seems that light damages that are the norm in the line of duty will now be much more expensive to repair, increasing the cost to the tax payers.

If there has been a more worthless thread in the AT Garage, I haven't seen it.

At least fleabag gives you the entertainment factor. I skimmed to the end of the thread and, to my surprise, people are still arguing over what "bulletproof" means. As if it were even possible to apply a proper definition to slang term used differently by different people. Can you two retards take the discussion to PM?

I was entertained, and fleabag's threads were far more pointless.
 
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fbrdphreak

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Sorry if you felt I derailed your thread, I saw someone willing to fight over something stupid and decided to have fun. As I said earlier, it was better than working on my research paper.

I am bothered by the switch to a unibody structure for police duty, it seems that light damages that are the norm in the line of duty will now be much more expensive to repair, increasing the cost to the tax payers.
No, the jerkwad would be the one who started the argument ;) ():)
 

McWatt

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What a retarded path for this thread to take. There's a big problem with arguing about wording in imprecise terms and then intentionally ignoring the wording of those with whom you disagree (this is aimed at Wiretap Zoolander, not the rest of you).

Clearly the bulletproof term is used by multiple groups with different meanings. Zoolander made it pretty clear which group isn't worth knowing.
 

EightySix Four

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What a retarded path for this thread to take. There's a big problem with arguing about wording in imprecise terms and then intentionally ignoring the wording of those with whom you disagree (this is aimed at Wiretap Zoolander, not the rest of you).

Clearly the bulletproof term is used by multiple groups with different meanings. Zoolander made it pretty clear which group isn't worth knowing.

21 posts and I like you already. What do you think about them moving to the taurus platform for the new police cruiser?