I've recently set up an 8rda+ system...some problems though, appears to be something funky with IDE drives.
my system:
Windows XP pro SP1
Athlonxp 2400
2x 512mb PC2700 kingston hyperx
SB audigy
40gb Maxtor 7200rpm drive
Optorite 16x CDRW
toshiba DVD rom
Ok, everything was working OK yesterday. Previously i had a problem with the computer locking on POST with the IDE activity light solid on, i couldn't press delete or anything etc, completely locked. What i did was change the cable on the driver (thinking this was a bad cable problem), and this seemed to work. Later on i noticed it was on slave, so i changed it back to master. No problems here. Also note that the two CD drives were connected and working fine.
Today I go to bootup and it does that locking thing again. I disconnect the IDE drive completely to see if it is that, and it isn't. I narrow it down to being my CDRW drive, not the DVD. The Computer will boot fine now with this CDRW drive being disconnected.
The odd thing is, yesterday this was the IDE drive and not the fault of the other drives. Which leads me to believe something weird is going on with the IDE on this board. I did flash to the newest bios and it does the same thing with this drive.
I am also un-overclocked at the moment.
I made sure i didn't use the Nvidia IDE drivers as well. And yesterday my CDroms seemed to have had some trouble with locking up and reading CDs.....where as they worked fine before on my other motherboard. I think this may have something to do with it.
My second problem seems to be with the USB2.0, in device manager it shows it as having no driver says the USB controller and a "pci input device" (im assuming more to do with the USB as i have nothing else in there thats not installed)
My other 4 USB deviced are installed, as far as i can tell, im using one of them right now. I'm assuming this other device is the 2 other ports run to the back via the pins on the mobo. I don't have this plugged in (newegg send me two firewire things instead of a USB) so could that be the reason it's not installing drivers for it? I saw the thing on the install CD about getting the new USB drivers off of windows update, but I can't seem to get them or find them on the microsoft site.
The performance on this mobo is very good though
Just seems to be very finicky...
If anyone could help me on one of these problems I would be grateful TIA.
my system:
Windows XP pro SP1
Athlonxp 2400
2x 512mb PC2700 kingston hyperx
SB audigy
40gb Maxtor 7200rpm drive
Optorite 16x CDRW
toshiba DVD rom
Ok, everything was working OK yesterday. Previously i had a problem with the computer locking on POST with the IDE activity light solid on, i couldn't press delete or anything etc, completely locked. What i did was change the cable on the driver (thinking this was a bad cable problem), and this seemed to work. Later on i noticed it was on slave, so i changed it back to master. No problems here. Also note that the two CD drives were connected and working fine.
Today I go to bootup and it does that locking thing again. I disconnect the IDE drive completely to see if it is that, and it isn't. I narrow it down to being my CDRW drive, not the DVD. The Computer will boot fine now with this CDRW drive being disconnected.
The odd thing is, yesterday this was the IDE drive and not the fault of the other drives. Which leads me to believe something weird is going on with the IDE on this board. I did flash to the newest bios and it does the same thing with this drive.
I am also un-overclocked at the moment.
I made sure i didn't use the Nvidia IDE drivers as well. And yesterday my CDroms seemed to have had some trouble with locking up and reading CDs.....where as they worked fine before on my other motherboard. I think this may have something to do with it.
My second problem seems to be with the USB2.0, in device manager it shows it as having no driver says the USB controller and a "pci input device" (im assuming more to do with the USB as i have nothing else in there thats not installed)
My other 4 USB deviced are installed, as far as i can tell, im using one of them right now. I'm assuming this other device is the 2 other ports run to the back via the pins on the mobo. I don't have this plugged in (newegg send me two firewire things instead of a USB) so could that be the reason it's not installing drivers for it? I saw the thing on the install CD about getting the new USB drivers off of windows update, but I can't seem to get them or find them on the microsoft site.
The performance on this mobo is very good though
Just seems to be very finicky...If anyone could help me on one of these problems I would be grateful
TIA.When you get freeze @ post what code do you see? FF or C1? I think maybe C1? so set memory timings to expert : 100% timings of 6222.5, Turn off audio in cmos setup!..reboot
1-clean installl and update WXP
2-download and install nvidia 2.03(say no to SW drivers)
3-SB drivers
3-install video driver
1-clean installl and update WXP
2-download and install nvidia 2.03(say no to SW drivers)
3-SB drivers
3-install video driver
Originally posted by: Baronz
I've recently set up an 8rda+ system...some problems though, appears to be something funky with IDE drives.
my system:
Windows XP pro SP1
Athlonxp 2400
2x 512mb PC2700 kingston hyperx
SB audigy
40gb Maxtor 7200rpm drive
Optorite 16x CDRW
toshiba DVD rom
Ok, everything was working OK yesterday. Previously i had a problem with the computer locking on POST with the IDE activity light solid on, i couldn't press delete or anything etc, completely locked. What i did was change the cable on the driver (thinking this was a bad cable problem), and this seemed to work. Later on i noticed it was on slave, so i changed it back to master. No problems here. Also note that the two CD drives were connected and working fine.
Today I go to bootup and it does that locking thing again. I disconnect the IDE drive completely to see if it is that, and it isn't. I narrow it down to being my CDRW drive, not the DVD. The Computer will boot fine now with this CDRW drive being disconnected.
The odd thing is, yesterday this was the IDE drive and not the fault of the other drives. Which leads me to believe something weird is going on with the IDE on this board. I did flash to the newest bios and it does the same thing with this drive.
I am also un-overclocked at the moment.
I made sure i didn't use the Nvidia IDE drivers as well. And yesterday my CDroms seemed to have had some trouble with locking up and reading CDs.....where as they worked fine before on my other motherboard. I think this may have something to do with it.
My second problem seems to be with the USB2.0, in device manager it shows it as having no driver says the USB controller and a "pci input device" (im assuming more to do with the USB as i have nothing else in there thats not installed)
My other 4 USB deviced are installed, as far as i can tell, im using one of them right now. I'm assuming this other device is the 2 other ports run to the back via the pins on the mobo. I don't have this plugged in (newegg send me two firewire things instead of a USB) so could that be the reason it's not installing drivers for it? I saw the thing on the install CD about getting the new USB drivers off of windows update, but I can't seem to get them or find them on the microsoft site.
The performance on this mobo is very good though
If anyone could help me on one of these problems I would be grateful
Is that a fresh install of XP after u upgraded mobo? U will need to install the nforce2 drivers AFTER Sp1 to get usb 2 to work.
I believe it was something like 6b, whatever that means...I didn't see it in the BIOS codes in the manual either.
Audio is off, what i did was install XP, install SP1, apply Nforce 2 drivers (first time i said yes to the IDE ones). After I realized they caused problems i reinstalled all the drivers and said no them. I then installed video drivers and SB drivers which I'm still fighting with
But that's another story.my timings are 2-2-2-5 I believe and RAM is at 100%, I'll double check that. Would CAS 2.5 vs 2 make a difference in this problem?
And yes Mboy the drivers were installed after SP1.
Edit: was at 2-2-2-5, changed to 2-2-2-6.
Hello all,
I just built a 8RDA+ system with a 2500+ Barton and 512Mb Original Samsung PC3200 RAM (256x2) and after getting rid of the "SW Driver" and installing the "MCP2 IDE Driver" and the Microsoft Q815411 nForce2 fix (this fix dropped CPU usage shown in HDTach from ~50% to 10%), the system is running very well @ 2Ghz (12x166). 3DMark2001SE scores are ~13000.
However, there are still some quirks I cannot seem to fix. When I go to Device Manager -> System Devices, there are three Motherboard Resources listed. There is a yellow exclamation point next to the second one, and when I go to Properties for that resource, it says "Windows cannot load the device drivers for this hardware because there is a duplicate device already running in the system. [Code 42]".
I did a clean install with SP1, then installed the nForce2 drivers v2.03 and then the video driver v43.45. As far as I know I installed everything in the correct order and am using the latest drivers.
I've tried deleting the resource, and Windows simply re-detects it upon the next bootup. I went into the BIOS and disabled everything I wasn't using, such as the serial/printer ports and the game port.
I haven't actually noticed this having any effect on my system, as everything seems to operate properly (video, sound, LAN, USB), although I haven't tried to use the Firewire yet (although I did hook up the bracket).
I do not like the fact that Device Manager shows the yellow mark and would like to fix it, if anybody has any ideas they would be much appreciated.
[Edit] I just remembered that Sandra reports "System has no SMBus support", but I do not know what that means.
[Edit] It may be a problem when using a USB keyboard. Here are other people with the exact same problem. The screen shots are exactly what I'm seeing in my device manager. I'm going to try removing the "Motherboard Resources" in safe mode and see what happens...
I just built a 8RDA+ system with a 2500+ Barton and 512Mb Original Samsung PC3200 RAM (256x2) and after getting rid of the "SW Driver" and installing the "MCP2 IDE Driver" and the Microsoft Q815411 nForce2 fix (this fix dropped CPU usage shown in HDTach from ~50% to 10%), the system is running very well @ 2Ghz (12x166). 3DMark2001SE scores are ~13000.
However, there are still some quirks I cannot seem to fix. When I go to Device Manager -> System Devices, there are three Motherboard Resources listed. There is a yellow exclamation point next to the second one, and when I go to Properties for that resource, it says "Windows cannot load the device drivers for this hardware because there is a duplicate device already running in the system. [Code 42]".
I did a clean install with SP1, then installed the nForce2 drivers v2.03 and then the video driver v43.45. As far as I know I installed everything in the correct order and am using the latest drivers.
I've tried deleting the resource, and Windows simply re-detects it upon the next bootup. I went into the BIOS and disabled everything I wasn't using, such as the serial/printer ports and the game port.
I haven't actually noticed this having any effect on my system, as everything seems to operate properly (video, sound, LAN, USB), although I haven't tried to use the Firewire yet (although I did hook up the bracket).
I do not like the fact that Device Manager shows the yellow mark and would like to fix it, if anybody has any ideas they would be much appreciated.
[Edit] I just remembered that Sandra reports "System has no SMBus support", but I do not know what that means.
[Edit] It may be a problem when using a USB keyboard. Here are other people with the exact same problem. The screen shots are exactly what I'm seeing in my device manager. I'm going to try removing the "Motherboard Resources" in safe mode and see what happens...
Sorry if this has been posted before but I was admittedly too lazy to read through the entire thread. I installed the 8RDA+ yesterday and I have this recurring problem. Before the POST it gives me a funky number for the CPU Clock (sometimes gibberish like 23849732 and other times incomplete like ?533 (the real clock is 1533, or XP1800)), and then hangs at the screen. I have to reset the CMOS several times before it will post with the correct CPU Clock and boot. The error code on the readout display gives me different codes, sometimes it says there's a problem with the VGA BIOS and other times with the main BIOS. I have re-seated the components but the problem always re-occurs. Will flashing the BIOS to an older date fix this? Thanks in advance, you can PM me or e-mail me. I appreciate the help.
Their is a new beta bios (can be found at amdmb.com forums) that is supposed to take care of this I believe.
Jeff7
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Well here goes; going to try to do the VDD mod to my 8RDA+; going to solder it, hopefully. And I'll also see if I can screw a 40mm fan into the northbridge heatsink. It gets pretty warm, now that it has ASIII under it. Once I up the voltage and speed, it'll probably want active cooling. Now lets just hope I don't short anything out!
Wow, I'm VERY tempted to try that. If I could finally run my board at 166 instead of 157, I'd be ecstatic.
U need to get u some good ol' twinmos/winbond pc3200 lovin. Running mine @ 200fsb in synch with cpu!
Jeff7
Lifer
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System boots! VDD is now at 1.76v.
Question about it - I used the 15-turn potentiometer that's listed here, only I soldered the wires to the board instead of using the SMD grabbers. What are some "rules" to follow with this pot? I have heatshrink around all electrical contacts at the pot itself; what about adjusting it? Anyone know what its range is? Like, does it go from 1K Ohms, all the way down to zero?
Also, is it normal for the VDD in the POST screen to be in red? I'm assuming/hoping it is.
HELP PPL. Just built a new 8RDA+ system and have a few problems....
1) I am using the Logitech Z-540's with the mobo and even when I set it to 4 speaker analog setup and check the area where it says my rear speakers are plugged into line-in, when I play the sample MIDI files, I get no audio in the rear speakers. What am I doing wrong here?
2) I hooked up a Microsoft Sidewinder original into the gameport PCI slot that was included with the mobo to plug into game port on mobo, but when I say to auto detect the sidewinder version, it detects Sidewinder 3D PRo which is not what I have and furthermore it says "Not Connected" and I can see the green light on the gamepad. I tried turning the plug tht goes into the motherboard around but it still does the same thing. Any help would be GREATLY appreciated.
1) I am using the Logitech Z-540's with the mobo and even when I set it to 4 speaker analog setup and check the area where it says my rear speakers are plugged into line-in, when I play the sample MIDI files, I get no audio in the rear speakers. What am I doing wrong here?
2) I hooked up a Microsoft Sidewinder original into the gameport PCI slot that was included with the mobo to plug into game port on mobo, but when I say to auto detect the sidewinder version, it detects Sidewinder 3D PRo which is not what I have and furthermore it says "Not Connected" and I can see the green light on the gamepad. I tried turning the plug tht goes into the motherboard around but it still does the same thing. Any help would be GREATLY appreciated.
Well, I just installed some PC3500 HyperX and tried to do the 200MHz dance and no go....so I guess i'll join the VDD modders club now.
Ok, got my 8RDA+ with the newest stepping for fsb. I am currently at 12x200fsb with Corsair XMS 3200 C2 512meg on my xp2400+
Prime95 running, 48C.
How far can I raise the mhz before getting fumes?
Prime95 running, 48C.
How far can I raise the mhz before getting fumes?
can anyone help me with the 8rda+ error codes? i just built a system and "7F" was displayed on the leds. anyone know what this is? i cant seem to find it in the manual.
well, i found that. but i guess i was asking how to fix it. because i cant even get on to anything.
Originally posted by: SpideyCU
Sure, I'll just pay as much for a 256MB stick as I did for my 512MB one.
Gotta pay to play
I recently built my new system with the Epox 8RDA+. But I am having nightmares with my USB ports.
My system specs are as follows:
Windows XP Pro (Integraded SP1)
1024 (2x512) PC3200 Corsair Memory
Geforce 4 4800SE 128
80Gig Maxtor 7200rpm (8meg Cache)
Kensington Elite USB mouse
Blue Chieftec Aluminum Case with 450watt PS
Blue Chieftec wireless keyboard
*there's more, but that all I think you need to know*
Anyway, my USB optical mouse does not detect on startup. Most of the time, in order for the USB mouse to detect, I have to unplug it and then plug it back in again for the mouse to light up and detect once again. At first, I thought this solved the problem, but to my dismay I discovered that whenever I reboot the system, or shutdown and bootup again, the mouse does not detect. I unplug it and plug it in every single time, and it is frustrating me big time! I verifed that the problem is not the mouse by testing my other Microsoft USB Optical mouse that works just fine on my old system. The other mouse did the exact same thing. So it's definitely something wrong with my USB.
Am I supposed to download some USB 2.0 drivers somewhere? Aren't the USB 2.0 drivers automatically the the latest Epox 8RDA+ motherboard drivers (which I downloaded and installed)?
*Note: once in a blue moon, my mouse will detect on bootup. But only the initial bootup. But if I try rebooting the system for the second time, kaboom! no mouse once again* I've had to temporarily resort to my PS/2 adapters until I get this figured out.
Why do things like this happen to me? Why nobody else? Why have I not heard anyone here in this thread complain about USB problems with this board? It seems I haven't been having much luck lately.
I would appreciate your help asap, thanx.
My system specs are as follows:
Windows XP Pro (Integraded SP1)
1024 (2x512) PC3200 Corsair Memory
Geforce 4 4800SE 128
80Gig Maxtor 7200rpm (8meg Cache)
Kensington Elite USB mouse
Blue Chieftec Aluminum Case with 450watt PS
Blue Chieftec wireless keyboard
*there's more, but that all I think you need to know*
Anyway, my USB optical mouse does not detect on startup. Most of the time, in order for the USB mouse to detect, I have to unplug it and then plug it back in again for the mouse to light up and detect once again. At first, I thought this solved the problem, but to my dismay I discovered that whenever I reboot the system, or shutdown and bootup again, the mouse does not detect. I unplug it and plug it in every single time, and it is frustrating me big time! I verifed that the problem is not the mouse by testing my other Microsoft USB Optical mouse that works just fine on my old system. The other mouse did the exact same thing. So it's definitely something wrong with my USB.
Am I supposed to download some USB 2.0 drivers somewhere? Aren't the USB 2.0 drivers automatically the the latest Epox 8RDA+ motherboard drivers (which I downloaded and installed)?
*Note: once in a blue moon, my mouse will detect on bootup. But only the initial bootup. But if I try rebooting the system for the second time, kaboom! no mouse once again* I've had to temporarily resort to my PS/2 adapters until I get this figured out.
Why do things like this happen to me? Why nobody else? Why have I not heard anyone here in this thread complain about USB problems with this board? It seems I haven't been having much luck lately.
I would appreciate your help asap, thanx.
I think all you need is the default 2.0 drivers that come with SP1. I would uninstall the nVidia ones and try the MS ones.
FYI for others...I built a rig using an 8RDA+ as follows:
8RDA+
xp2200
1x512MB Kingston HyperX LL pc2700
GeForce2 ti
XP/SP1
Didn't have any compatibility problems with the RAM. Everything fire right up and installed without a hitch. I'm really digging this board.
The only RAM that's been having compatability issues is Crucial's and Kingston's ValueRAM, the 512 MB PC2700 sticks. Seems everything else is doing just fine.
And mboy, there's no way in the world I'm going to pay double for my memory to run at 166 instead of 157 (because that's all I want). Some of us have budgets!
And mboy, there's no way in the world I'm going to pay double for my memory to run at 166 instead of 157 (because that's all I want).
Some of us have budgets!Hey man, I know ALL about budgets, but I was looking to get to 200fsb with my overclock and the twinmos/winbond was the best/least expensive way to get there. I have crucial pc2100 in my other 2 rigs that dont need to be Oc'd. If u want to get higher then 166, u mioght have to step up to better ram for it thats all.
Yeah, but it's the latency issues the nForce2's have with some memory that's holding be back - at least I believe so. I tried this RAM on a friend's KT333 and we were at 166 just fine. I wasn't around long enough to test stability for very long so we didn't try to overclock any, but I imagine it could've gone higher. If I was to try and hit 200 MHz, I'd likely have to get a better cooler, do the VDD mod, and get far more expensive memory, which is more than I'm willing to do.
I'll be happy with just overclocking the chip to 166 on the FSB, which theoretically should be easy as pie with ANY PC2700 - I mean, hell, the memory should be running at SPEC. So it's not a question of getting more expensive memory in this case, just compatability.
I'll be happy with just overclocking the chip to 166 on the FSB, which theoretically should be easy as pie with ANY PC2700 - I mean, hell, the memory should be running at SPEC. So it's not a question of getting more expensive memory in this case, just compatability.
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