I don't either.Originally posted by: manly
I don't particularly care about a filibuster-proof super-majority but I agree with you here.Originally posted by: seemingly random
I hope chambliss gets booted.
He reminds me of a typical authoritarian, oppressive repug. They need to be gone.His campaign's 2002 TV ad was on par with Bush 2000's despicable attacks on McCain in South Carolina and worse than the "swift boating" of Kerry in 2004.
Irony of ironies....
LAT reports 70% of black voters voted yes. These are the same voters that overwhelmingly voted for Obama, with record turnout. ...
Originally posted by: SagaLore
Originally posted by: jpeyton
Here's the 2008 Red/Blue State map based on population.
Look at that beautiful sea of blue![]()
Uh, a bit distorted.![]()
Originally posted by: Infohawk
Originally posted by: GiggleGirl
Originally posted by: chess9
I voted against it, but it was poorly worded. Careful reading required! The pro-traditional marriage people snuck that one past a lot of people, IMHO.
-Robert
oh yea it was absolutely worded in a way to deliberately confuse people. i read it three times to make sure i was voting NO to ban gay marriage.
Wrong. It was phrased that way by attorney general Jerry Brown (a historical liberal figure in California).
The proposition should have just said, "Do you want to amend the constitution to ban gay marriage OR to make marriage between a man and a women only." But he made it, "do you want to amend the constitution to remove the gay right to marry." _HE_ added the negative in there which confused things. And hopefully it's obvious why he phrased it that way (to make it seem more anti-gay).
Originally posted by: manly
I don't particularly care about a filibuster-proof super-majority but I agree with you here. His campaign's 2002 TV ad was on par with Bush 2000's despicable attacks on McCain in South Carolina and worse than the "swift boating" of Kerry in 2004.Originally posted by: seemingly random
I hope chambliss gets booted.
As for the few comments about CA Prop. 8, I don't recall the exact language now but it's not that confusing. It's an amendment to the state Constitution with a simple 50% majority vote; compare that to the extremely high standard to amend the U.S. Constitution.
LAT reports 70% of black voters voted yes. These are the same voters that overwhelmingly voted for Obama, with record turnout. Prop. 8 would have lost if not for the lying TV ads claiming public schools would teach gay marriage in grade school "whether you like it or not". Many voters bought the scare tactics hook, line & sinker. The No on 8 TV ads simply weren't that effective in explaining the civil rights issue to voters already prejudiced against gay marriage. I reject the confusion argument. As often as the ads ran and as much as the discussion flowed (in churches and workplaces for example), voters were clearly given the choice of banning gay marriage by voting yes. And by a modest margin, that's what they did.