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Official Doom III Benchmarks from [H]ardOCP

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I'm thinking about this is abit different light.


If the X800 gets a hurtin put onto it. So will my Radeon 9700.. *sigh*

Chalk up another game that i won't be able to make look like it should look for at least a year...

And Grats to Nvidia, just wish i'd see a card for cheap..


2nd though, it was pretty much said a few months ago that Nvidia was thinking Doom3, and ATi was going with HL2. Bleh, i don't like the way that is going.
 
Ouch, that x800 pro is getting smoked.

[ati fanboy] Ya well, halflife 2 will be faster on ati cards, take that! [/ati fanboy]
 
Yay my decision to get the 6800NU looks to have payed off. After selling my 9800pro it was a very cheap upgrade to.
 
Looks like I made the right choice going with the nVidia. Glad I did...man that was close...almost got the ATi. Thank you AT forum 🙂
 
Originally posted by: KpocAlypse
I'm thinking about this is abit different light.


If the X800 gets a hurtin put onto it. So will my Radeon 9700.. *sigh*

Chalk up another game that i won't be able to make look like it should look for at least a year...

And Grats to Nvidia, just wish i'd see a card for cheap..


2nd though, it was pretty much said a few months ago that Nvidia was thinking Doom3, and ATi was going with HL2. Bleh, i don't like the way that is going.
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Look at the Radeon 9800XT

nonsense . . .look at the Radeon 9800XT's benchmarks . . . awesome for 1024x768 HIGH Quality can even add 2x AA and 4xAF . . . let's extrapolate . . . 9700Pro (~ 20% slower than the xt) . . . probably 1024x768 MED Quality no AA/AF.

That's NOT hurtin' for a nearly 3 year old card; however - IF you just spent OVER $400 for the castrated x800pro - and coulda got a 6800GT for the same, you're hurtin' 😉
(much worse if you spent $700 for the XT-PE and the $400 GT beats it) 😛

get it?

You can probably wait for the r500 next year and STILL enjoy HL2 (especially) and Doom III with your current GPU . . . i am certain my 9800xt will last another couple of years.
 
True..😉 (hence why i'm skipping this round of GFx buying..)

EDIT: ooh, just noticed it the processor, i do have slightly more in that department, so it ain' too shabby, NV50 R500 i go! Though i really wish they would have did a 3.2 PCI express vs a 3.2 AGP board, or at least something of the similar, though my guess would be that it was pretty much the same.
 
I couldnt care too much about the "high end" hardware performance - its so nice to hear comments that Doom3 WILL scale to older computer systems.
 
Originally posted by: KpocAlypse
True..😉 (hence why i'm skipping this round of GFx buying..)

EDIT: ooh, just noticed it the processor, i do have slightly more in that department, so it ain' too shabby, NV50 R500 i go!
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i only skipped it cause i was pissed at BOTH nVidia and ati for their BS launchs - i actually tried to order 3 or 4 times and 'gave up', getting my 9800Pro 256/256 > 9800XT for $223 (OK, add $17 for the Arctic-Coolin VGA Silencer R3 which keeps it cool) . . . and now we find out r500 - a much higher performing GPU than the x800xt - will be out NEXT year. 😛

And we won't NEED r500 either 'till almost r600 when Langhorn, DX 10, Unreal III all come out together ~'07.

Hardware is SO far ahead of software - it's pathetic (or good for us "budget" gamers). 🙂
 
There's no way I'm spending hundreds on a new card yet, I'll just have to make due with my 9700 Pro. 1024x768 medium settings and little or no AA/AF looks like it'll be what I go with.
 
Originally posted by: ArmchairAthlete
There's no way I'm spending hundreds on a new card yet, I'll just have to make due with my 9700 Pro. 1024x768 medium settings and little or no AA/AF looks like it'll be what I go with.
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Ya, I've got a 9800np at 410/315 and I'll run at 1024x768 w/ maybe 2x AA if possible, but that would be it.

Which would make the game look better, 2x AA or 4xAF?
 
Im betting on AF. The advanced geometry and pixel shading of the game should wedge out those obvious jaggies that we are so accustomed in seeing in Unreal 2003 benchmarks.
 
And we won't NEED r500 either 'till almost r600 when Langhorn, DX 10, Unreal III all come out together ~'07.
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really think so? I dunno, Fry Cry already makes my poor 9700 cry..😉 But yea, if you kill off the AA and Anso, there is really nothing my 9700 can't do at a decent framerate and should be that way for a good while. Its far from the boat i was in years ago with a G400 MAXX. Goes from pretty good to blah within 6 months. (though it still the best card i think i bought for non gaming reasons ever)
 
Originally posted by: ArmchairAthlete
There's no way I'm spending hundreds on a new card yet, I'll just have to make due with my 9700 Pro. 1024x768 medium settings and little or no AA/AF looks like it'll be what I go with.
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You wanna talk about making due? I've got an 8500. 🙁

Man, I've got to get a 6800 GT. 🙁
 
Originally posted by: KpocAlypse
And we won't NEED r500 either 'till almost r600 when Langhorn, DX 10, Unreal III all come out together ~'07.
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really think so? I dunno, Fry Cry already makes my poor 9700 cry..😉 But yea, if you kill off the AA and Anso, there is really nothing my 9700 can't do at a decent framerate and should be that way for a good while. Its far from the boat i was in years ago with a G400 MAXX. Goes from pretty good to blah within 6 months. (though it still the best card i think i bought for non gaming reasons ever)
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um, that's not exactly what i meant.

Put it this way, the 9800Pro/XT will play Doom III fine (for MOST gamers). As games become MORE demanding over the next TWO years (and B4 the next gen of games), your 9700Pro and My 9800xt are gonna feel slow.

When r500 is released in less than a year, the current cards - the x800XT-pe& pro/ and the 6800u & gt are gonna be as cheap as th 9800Xt/pro is now. That means . . . when games need it - not your ego - you will be able to buy a "cheap" x800/6800 to play THOSE games satisfactorily.

Instead of spending $500+ every year or so (as nVidia and ATI intend), you can "get by" - VERY well - for $200 and notice very little practical difference in any gameplay or enjoyment (not counting "ego") 😉

:roll:

You wanna talk about making due? I've got an 8500.
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i upgraded a few weeks ago from a Radeon 8500-128MB to a 9800xt. Thief III was the game that "made" me upgrade. 😉 World of difference - visually; lighting is AWEsome!
 
I'm disapointed they didn't benchmark AMD versus Intel too. Quake 3 tends to favor the Pentium 4, while virtually everything newer is about equal or favors the Athlon 64 heavily. I'm assuming Doom 3 will too...but I'd like a confirmation.
 
Originally posted by: JackHawksmoor
I'm disapointed they didn't benchmark AMD versus Intel too. Quake 3 tends to favor the Pentium 4, while virtually everything newer is about equal or favors the Athlon 64 heavily. I'm assuming Doom 3 will too...but I'd like a confirmation.
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this is more like a "quickie" than a review. id did the setup and HardOCP ran the bench in the limited time they have.

I am CERTAIN the A64 will perform better than the P4 but the video cards shouldN'T matter to the final results much (unless you count the nVidia MB + GPU). 😉

i bet we see benchs from ALL OVER pretty soon. AnandTech?

!
 
Originally posted by: Davegod
The folks at id Software have been kind enough to share with us benchmarks from the upcoming DOOM 3.
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so, theyre not benchmarked by hardocp, or anyone else vaguely independent, but the company who got $Xm from nvidia? These really more reliable that Valve's shouting about ATI cards?

Plus more than likely nvidia have been given more access to code so they could optimise for it already - same for HL2 and ATI.

I dont like benches not done by trustworthy sites. That said, I'd still expect the nvidia cards to beat the ati, who really need to do better on opengl.
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:roll: You didn't read the article, did you?

I'm sure your theory is much more acurate :roll:
 
I kinda have a differnent way of looking at it.

I do the exact opposite. Kinda. I picked up the 9700 on a gateway deal about 3 weeks after it was released. and well, sat on it for eh, whats it been now 2.5 years? I'd prefer spending the big bad cash once, then wait for the software to catch up while playing it in all its glory, then plop down again. Either that or there has to be some MAJOR difference. like, example a brand spanking new core.(which i do not consider the X800 that "new") more of a R350 with twin turbo's added and bored out .5 liters..

500 every year or so? heck no...😉

EDIT: MN, had it for 2 years. (i think, slip for Aug 02)
 
Originally posted by: KpocAlypse
I kinda have a differnent way of looking at it.

I do the exact opposite. Kinda. I picked up the 9700 on a gateway deal about 3 weeks after it was released. and well, sat on it for eh, whats it been now 2.5 years? I'd prefer spending the big bad cash once, then wait for the software to catch up while playing it in all its glory, then plop down again. Either that or there has to be some MAJOR difference. like, example a brand spanking new core.(which i do not consider the X800 that "new") more of a R350 with twin turbo's added and bored out .5 liters..

500 every year or so? heck no...😉

EDIT: MN, had it for 2 years. (i think, slip for Aug 02)
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your way is quite valid.

i was gonna get the 6800u . . .
(i can go "both ways") 😉

. . . but nVidia sure messed up with their launch and i figure they don't deserve my $$$ even if their's is a great GPU design . . . i wasn't really interested in the XT-PE (except for cheap).

now i am really looking forward to r500/nv500 launch next year . . . prolly still gonna pick up a 6800u - THEN

Here's how my costs stacked up:

I bought the ATI Rage Fury 32 for near MSRP when it first launched . . . it lasted quite awhile and i even traded someone a PIII 600e CPU for an Asus GF(256?) 32MB card . . . it was faster but i liked my Rage's IQ better . . .

i replaced my Radeon 7200 64MB (DDR!) after 3 years in my rig (i bought it near launchtime)

Q2/3 '02 - 8500-128MB $129 (i have it sold for $50) . . . (and it only felt a bit slow with Unreal II but Thief III lacked the dramatic visuals so i upgraded . . . )

Q2 - '04 - 9800XT ($223 - 9800Pro 256/256MB> flashed to XT + $17 Arctic VGA cooler)

Next upgrade planned . . . H2 '05 . . . prolly a $250 6800Ultra

i notice my upgrades are getting closer together and more expensive . . . but that's MY tale of a "budget gamer".

:roll:
 
that article only tested high end hardware, in my opinion. monster cpu, loads of ram, and top of the line video cards. i guess it is good that it shows that doom 3 isnt as big as hardware hog as it seemed it would be. however, i would love to see how it would run on lower systems, especially mine =p

amd 1700+, 512mb ram, TI4400 ran far cry okay. i wonder what the average gaming system is of those who will play doom 3. i hope i can get 1024x768 at medium settings or 800x600 at high settings. eithehr of those would make me happy.

hardocp mentions lower end systems being ok, but they dont show any numbers. how disappointing.
 
I want them to benchmark the more mainstream cards, like the Radeon8500 and GF3/4 generation, as well as the Radeon 9x00 and GFFX generation. Not many people have the new cards yet.
 
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