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EDUSAN

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is crit so important in a wiz? and ias? everyone is playing with a signature spell?

anybody knows a good way to compare 2hand vs 1hand/sourcE?

i have this 1100dps magic 2handed weapon... no stats, just damage
and i bought really cheap this source that has like 50 vitality, 50 intelligence 30-250 damage and a couple things more
so i want to know what dps a 1hand weapon needs to have to make my damage even with the 2handed

will a 1100dps 2handed be equivalent to a 900dps 1 handed weapon with that source i said?
i dont want to spend like 1mill gold to buy the weapon to find out it sucks :p
 

darkewaffle

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Is there any actual source to those IAS numbers?

Also Blizzard takes a $1 cut out of every transaction on the RMAH. If you 'cash out' by sending your Blizzard Balance to Paypal, then paypal will take a 15% cut. I don't believe there is any cost to adding money to your Blizzard Balance.
 

darkxshade

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I finally spent some of my bnet balance on some underpriced items($1-$5) that I resold in the GAH where I then used the proceeds to buy something to sell in the RMAH... Anyway, I wasn't aware there's a sales tax on pixels? :p
 

Batmeat

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I finally broke 100k dps on my dh... never has reflect damage ever hurt so much :(

If I time ss incorrectly, then one nether tentacle into the pack can pretty much end me...

Also, I didn't see it mentioned, but it may be important to try to get other stats over ias for now. Apparently they're going to nerf it considerably. Basically, the ias stat will be cut in half. From what I've read, quivers will not be nerfed, so I just bought a 17% ias black bone arrows quiver.

What abilities and runes are you using to get that much dmg?
I'm stuck on the final quest in A3 Hell. I'm 60 but my crit dmg is only about 18k. I get steam rolled. Same with groups, I always get paired some with some clown who doesn't know how to gear or play their character right. Was with a sorc last night who couldn't even touch the mobs. I was the one killing them and it was taking forever.

{I hate mobs with teleport, grapple you, spawn frick'n lasers, and pesky ice bombs}

Also, anyone noticed inventory glitches? My staff of herding disappeared for a few games. I spent time and gold getting the mats again thinking I dropped it somewhere, then it magically re-appeared in my inv again.
 

lupi

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Spent awhile yesterday taking all the new chars up through sk to empty the low level blues sitting in the stash. What a difference some gear makes. Barbarian was my first beta char and wasn't fun, now with a bag full of upgrades every couple of levels I'm back to loving melee.

Had not gotten the jars of soul event yet, then did it twice yesterday. Normal wasn't anything special, nightmare made me wish I could also use keys for movement as I hate clicking and clicking again to find a spot in congestion where you select a movement point and not a target.

Need to find out exactly how these shielded and reflect abilities work, cam across a couple packs of those and they do suck. Although what was worse was that mortar minion crap. Had a large group of those right before the SK crypt entrance (so you could not have bypassed) that one shot me in the first volley. Would be crappy to lose a HC char to something like that.

And the WD spider lob is hilarious, doesn't do much damage at first on elites, but after putting a layer down on them pretty impressive to see how fast the health meter moves.
 

flexy

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How do you do 28K DPS? My weapon is 627 and my int is 1700 and I only do 14,000, or half. I get owned in inferno. One shoted all the time. Kiting all the time. Game sucks IMO @ inferno where it's just not possible without hundred million in gold at AH or a couple thousand at RMAH to proceed. No longre about skills, stats, and finding/grinding decent items - D3 is a 100% item based game which can only be had at AH. Anyone who says they are making inferno runs w/o AH is lying.

This is plenty of INT but an awful, awful DPS on the weapon. To be honest, as a wiz you should not even bother with Act II, Act III unless you have AT LEAST 40k.

Just to demonstrate, i have GF/MF gear on which significantly drops my DPS which is now approx. 30K - with GF/MF gear.

What you need, is FIRSTLY and most importantly a good weapon (for Inf i recommend 1H + Off) where the 1H should have AT LEAST 830 if not better DPS. No APS on the weapon please because it screws up stats. The main weapon should also have a decent amount (150ish) of INT because you do not want to sacrifice INT for a few more DPS. Its always better to get a good DPS main wep but ALSO having INT on it.

(Before Inferno i had a slow 2H, but i really started to like Wand + OH + wizard hat)

Reason: Wand, OH and Wizard Hat provide additional arcane power (A MUST!) especially if you get a fast 1.40 speed wand - because this will drain Arcane power very, very quickly.

As an off hand, this also needs to have + Max Arcane power and preferably good damage anywhere in the 50-200 ish or better range, preferrably INT as well.

But then DPS is not everything, you need resists out the *** and armor as well. I'd say 400ish resist one everything, 5000ish armor, 1700ish INT..

Skills are essential..magic weapon (for boosting DPS), energy armor with force armor...etc..etc.. <--- however, all this being said Act II+/Inf will still be incredible hard. But those stats should get you *at least* started.

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I dont think that going out full armor (with energy armor etc. +40%) i once had 8000 ish armor and 600ish resists will do any good if it sacrifies too much DPS - because it will virtually impossible to take stuff down, right now it is already impossible to take down treasure goblins (with 3 people simultaneously DPSing!) probably because my current 30k is not enough!

If people cant take down a treasure goblin...it should give an idea about what DPS would be needed to even halfway make it through the game....i'd say my above figure of 45k might not even be enough, at least for II/III...
 
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EDUSAN

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with how much intelligence and with what weapon do you get to 40k damage?

im currently at about 1400 intelligence and a i have a 1100dps 2handed weapon and without magic weapon im in 17k damage... i think it goes to 23k with MW... im not even close... using 35% rune energy armor and i have resists at about 350-450

the only way i see is to spend like 5-10 million gold in a 1000+ 1handed weapon... and i dnot have that gold lol and i see nothing even close in the loots from my runs... im lucky if a i find a 2handed 700 dps weapon in act1 runs
 

N4n45h1

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Is there any actual source to those IAS numbers?

Also Blizzard takes a $1 cut out of every transaction on the RMAH. If you 'cash out' by sending your Blizzard Balance to Paypal, then paypal will take a 15% cut. I don't believe there is any cost to adding money to your Blizzard Balance.

The source isn't necessarily official, but it was apparently datamined from the Diablo 3 servers or something?
Source

Although it seems very plausible and is in line with what Blizzard has told us to expect for 1.0.3


What abilities and runes are you using to get that much dmg?
I'm stuck on the final quest in A3 Hell. I'm 60 but my crit dmg is only about 18k. I get steam rolled. Same with groups, I always get paired some with some clown who doesn't know how to gear or play their character right. Was with a sorc last night who couldn't even touch the mobs. I was the one killing them and it was taking forever.

{I hate mobs with teleport, grapple you, spawn frick'n lasers, and pesky ice bombs}

Also, anyone noticed inventory glitches? My staff of herding disappeared for a few games. I spent time and gold getting the mats again thinking I dropped it somewhere, then it magically re-appeared in my inv again.

I'm just using: Build

You do have to realize that with a build like this, your dps will look largely inflated due to sharpshooter. In order to increase your true dps, you should definitely look into equipment that will give you increased crit chance because sharpshooter only maintains your high crit chance for 1 second after you crit.

Also, have you been buying your gear off AH? With my current gear I have about 1800 dex, 1250 dps xbow, and 2.07 attack speed. You may also want to consider becoming more glass cannon, as you can't really expect to live after being hit by anything in inferno :p
 

SS Trooper

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Hi all, first post!!

Has anyone had success with a 2 handed barb? I'm sitting with over 1k resist all(with WC+impunity) over 6k armor, and 25k health and I still get destroyed by Act2 inferno. I've gotten to Krulle's blood quest with my Monk friend but the only strat that works is stun locking. Ground stomp, blind, Monk pushback, repeat.

I don't want to go sword and board because my dps would drop by 10k(currently 22k) plus the money I would need to get an acceptable board would take a while to get.

So yeah is there any success for a Barb in inferno without sword and boarding?
 

Anubis

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with how much intelligence and with what weapon do you get to 40k damage?

im currently at about 1400 intelligence and a i have a 1100dps 2handed weapon and without magic weapon im in 17k damage... i think it goes to 23k with MW... im not even close... using 35% rune energy armor and i have resists at about 350-450

the only way i see is to spend like 5-10 million gold in a 1000+ 1handed weapon... and i dnot have that gold lol and i see nothing even close in the loots from my runs... im lucky if a i find a 2handed 700 dps weapon in act1 runs

as i said in my earlier post i use a 780 DPS 1 hander with a socket (+crit in it) zero stats, my offhand is like 50-180+ dmg with int and vit and a socket, it might also have +crit on it i dont remember, i have IAS on 1 ring and gloves (which are otherwise crap, just IAS and vit). magic wep has me at 31k, with a 1K+ DPS 1 hander i imagin id be closer to 40k

i run MUCH lower resists, (sub 200),

and just search the AH every day with the cost filter, i found a pair or boots with Int, Vit, runspeed and resist to all yesterday for 15k
 

Batmeat

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I'm just using: Build

You do have to realize that with a build like this, your dps will look largely inflated due to sharpshooter. In order to increase your true dps, you should definitely look into equipment that will give you increased crit chance because sharpshooter only maintains your high crit chance for 1 second after you crit.

Also, have you been buying your gear off AH? With my current gear I have about 1800 dex, 1250 dps xbow, and 2.07 attack speed. You may also want to consider becoming more glass cannon, as you can't really expect to live after being hit by anything in inferno :p

I need to buy some gear off the GAH. I gave nearly all my gold to my brother so he could gear up his WD. Now I've got only about 200k. I use sharpshooter, archery, and steady aim. It's amazing. I'll have to look at your build when I get home from work. Battle.net is blocked for me. I use dual xbow, each one is roughly 650dps, but they don't have +crit weapon dmg. That is a must for bow users imo.
 
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JamesV

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with how much intelligence and with what weapon do you get to 40k damage?

im currently at about 1400 intelligence and a i have a 1100dps 2handed weapon and without magic weapon im in 17k damage... i think it goes to 23k with MW... im not even close... using 35% rune energy armor and i have resists at about 350-450

the only way i see is to spend like 5-10 million gold in a 1000+ 1handed weapon... and i dnot have that gold lol and i see nothing even close in the loots from my runs... im lucky if a i find a 2handed 700 dps weapon in act1 runs

I'm at 41k with magic weapon, but I never use it because I can't survive without my 3 survivability skills, so I sit at 33.3k dps. A1 and 2 Inferno are pretty easy, to the point I can tank most elites + and teleport around my hydra (alot less kiting). A3 is doable minus stupidly hard elites (lickers with vortex/jail/fire chains, and the Heart of Sin which just owns me.

Almost every piece of gear I have has 150+ Int on it, and I'm using a 940 dps hammer with a 190-399 source with 45 Int. I've spent about 5 million total in the AH, but I've also sold a ton of gear I was initially holding onto for other characters, like a dmg/dex/ias/resist all/crit ring that got me 3 million gold yesterday.

Every night I look at a piece of gear I want to upgrade and how much gold I have (even if it is 300k ish), and search the AH for 'Intelligence over 120-150' and '300k gold'. You can find alot of good upgrades relatively cheap this way.
 

digiram

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Hi all, first post!!

Has anyone had success with a 2 handed barb? I'm sitting with over 1k resist all(with WC+impunity) over 6k armor, and 25k health and I still get destroyed by Act2 inferno. I've gotten to Krulle's blood quest with my Monk friend but the only strat that works is stun locking. Ground stomp, blind, Monk pushback, repeat.

I don't want to go sword and board because my dps would drop by 10k(currently 22k) plus the money I would need to get an acceptable board would take a while to get.

So yeah is there any success for a Barb in inferno without sword and boarding?

Yo, just hop on tonight. You and Tim tank.. me and Phil will blast away with ranged attacks. We'll get through act2 in no time.
 

isekii

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Hi all, first post!!

Has anyone had success with a 2 handed barb? I'm sitting with over 1k resist all(with WC+impunity) over 6k armor, and 25k health and I still get destroyed by Act2 inferno. I've gotten to Krulle's blood quest with my Monk friend but the only strat that works is stun locking. Ground stomp, blind, Monk pushback, repeat.

I don't want to go sword and board because my dps would drop by 10k(currently 22k) plus the money I would need to get an acceptable board would take a while to get.

So yeah is there any success for a Barb in inferno without sword and boarding?

You'll need much more health and also you'll need lots of LOH. Barb I MF with has I think over 40k vit and over 1k resist and he still gets his ass kicked. We mf a3/pony though.
 

Aikouka

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I did Whimsyshire with my brother last night, and I was a bit disappointed. I was expecting some big, bad-ass, fluffy thing at the end, but there was nothing. :(
 

SS Trooper

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You'll need much more health and also you'll need lots of LOH. Barb I MF with has I think over 40k vit and over 1k resist and he still gets his ass kicked. We mf a3/pony though.


So I need gear with Resist all, Vit, and LOH... great - that should be easy to find ^_^

Is your barb using a 2hander or sword/board?
 

EDUSAN

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they dropped? they seemed to be quite high the other day i checked? 1000 dps 1handed weapons for 15 million
 

SS Trooper

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Talking about say if you were to buy from a website. 4.55 USD per Million~

I wonder how low it will be once the RMAH actually supports gold trade. I expect it to hit $5.00 USD per 10 million within a month of that being turned on. Maybe even worse.
 
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BadgerYou

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I wonder how low it will be once the RMAH actually supports gold trade. I expect it to hit $5.00 USD per 10 million within a month of that being turned on. Maybe even worse.

I can't wait for GAH prices to be 200,000,000 for every piece of gear.
 

flexy

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with how much intelligence and with what weapon do you get to 40k damage?

im currently at about 1400 intelligence and a i have a 1100dps 2handed weapon and without magic weapon im in 17k damage... i think it goes to 23k with MW... im not even close... using 35% rune energy armor and i have resists at about 350-450

the only way i see is to spend like 5-10 million gold in a 1000+ 1handed weapon... and i dnot have that gold lol and i see nothing even close in the loots from my runs... im lucky if a i find a 2handed 700 dps weapon in act1 runs

I am getting 40kish if i replace my GF/MF gear with my DPS gear, which should then give me approx 1700-1800 INT, and some standard 860-900 ish DPS one hander. I never spend so much on any piece of gear, the most i ever spent was 1.5M i think..but this was an exception.

With the right skills (magic weapon/force armor for +15% wep dmg) you should get close to 40k ish with a "standard" 800-900 DPS weapon, and those should not be that expensive. (Provided the rest of your gear is "decent")
 

flexy

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I wonder how low it will be once the RMAH actually supports gold trade. I expect it to hit $5.00 USD per 10 million within a month of that being turned on. Maybe even worse.

I have, in the past, occasionally spent some bucks buying gold in WoW (long, long time ago) - but could never see me spend a dollar on anything in D3. Just can't. Then it's also the principle that i don't support that BS. If i were to see i *can't* play that game anymore without spending real money on their fricking RMAH...i would know it's time to play another game.
 

BadgerYou

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Weapons

&#8203;Haste 1: Old: (2-3%) New: (2%)
Haste 2: Old: (4-5%) New: (2%)
Haste 3: Old: (6-7%) New: (2-3%)
Haste 4: Old: (8-9%) New: (2-3%)
Haste 5: Old: (10-11%) New: (3-4%)
Haste 6: Old: (12-13%) New: (3-4%)
Haste 7: Old: (14-15%) New: (5%)
Haste 8: Old: (16-17%) New: (6-7%)
Haste 9: Old: (18-19%) New: (8-9%)
Haste 10: Old: (20-25%) New: (10-11%)

Other Types (Rings, Amulet, Gloves, Legendaries)

Haste 1: Old: (2-3%) New: (2%)
Haste 2: Old: (4-5%) New: (2-3%)
Haste 3: Old: (6-7%) New: (3-4%)
Haste 4: Old: (8-9%) New: (3-4%)
Haste 5: Old: (10-11%) New: (4-5%)
Haste 6: Old: (12-13%) New: (5-6%)
Haste 7: Old: (14-15%) New: (6-7%)
Haste 8: Old: (16-17%) New: (8-9%)


I'm sure its in their terms of use to just change the values after people have used REAL money to buy items in their current state. But man if I spent any real money on an IAS item and the nerf-bat is retroactive I would be livid.

Although any informed gamer would probably avoided investing in IAS gear being aware of this nerf.