**OFFICIAL CONFIRMED** i875 Canterwood Review Databank :-)

chizow

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:cool: so I guess the NDA went up at midnight?

Sunday/Early Mondays before release dates rock. :D

Chiz
 

chizow

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Nice...similar to the Athlon XP 333MHz vs 266MHz results: significant performance boosts in apps that require high-bandwidth; slower in apps that benefit from higher clockspeeds. Given equal clockspeeds though, the Canterwood+800MHz P4 is definitely the highest performing desktop on the market. Not as significant as I expected, but should be at the top of any wishlist for someone looking to upgrade their system.

Chiz
 

SleepyGreggy

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THG talked about CSA and integrated LAN. Nowadays, is the integrated LAN worth it (doesn't take up too many CPU cycles) or is it still worth it to buy a 10$ NIC? Which is faster?
 

Jeriko

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I wonder what the price difference will be between a P4 3.06GHz / 533 + Gigabyte GA-SINXP1394 and a P4 3.0 GHz / 800 + I875-based board.

So far, the main benefit I'm seeing from Canterwood is its integration of next-gen features moreso than a great performance boost, but (I'm guessing now) for $100 less you can get the same from the Gigabyte GA-SINXP1394 assuming you won't miss 15-20 extra FPS from Q3Test.

But then, if the price difference is only ~$40, you might as well go all the way.

Is there anything I'm overlooking?

-J
 

Jeriko

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Originally posted by: Spicedaddy
Is there anything I'm overlooking?


Prescott support :)

Well, I don't tend to upgrade every 6 months. I keep a system for a couple years. I'm still running on a 1.33 GHz T-Bird with a Geforce 2 Ultra, for goodness sakes. :D

-J
 

Jeriko

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Well, looks like the initial prices for the D875PBZ are around the $175 level (search on Pricewatch).

Not the $220 I was expecting. :D

And when more stores begin to carry the boards, the prices can only improve.

-J
 

draggoon01

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at tom's, it mentions usb thumb drive being emulated as a floppy or cd-rom drive. is this motherboard specific, or standard with the new chipsets?
 

Jeriko

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^ This is the part that's going to drive me crazy.

But then, it doesn't change much for me. I have to wait for the Raptor and 9800 Pro as it is, so one way or the other I've got weeks worth of waiting ahead.

-J
 

SexyK

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Looks pretty good. I'll definitely be using one of these boards in my upcoming upgrade. It is pretty funny that even after all the trash talking, no one has yet been able to build a DDR chipset that can routinely outperform a 2.5 year old RDRAM chipset though. Just goes to show politics holding down the best technology. Oh well.

Kramer
 

LukFilm

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The first 800MHz FSB CPU from Intel is the Pentium 4 3.0C which, as you can probably guess, runs at an even 3GHz - just 6MHz shy of the previous champ.

Um, that would be 60MHz :)
 

chizow

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Originally posted by: LukFilm
The first 800MHz FSB CPU from Intel is the Pentium 4 3.0C which, as you can probably guess, runs at an even 3GHz - just 6MHz shy of the previous champ.

Um, that would be 60MHz :)
Actually, wouldn't it be 66MHz, or 66.66666666^..........E? Not sure since I don't own one, just guessing based on possible multiples of 133.

Chiz
 

LukFilm

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Originally posted by: chizow
Originally posted by: LukFilm
The first 800MHz FSB CPU from Intel is the Pentium 4 3.0C which, as you can probably guess, runs at an even 3GHz - just 6MHz shy of the previous champ.

Um, that would be 60MHz :)
Actually, wouldn't it be 66MHz, or 66.66666666^..........E? Not sure since I don't own one, just guessing based on possible multiples of 133.

Chiz

That's correct, but I caught a bigger discrepancy :p
 

Wingznut

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Originally posted by: AnandTech
Intel's approach to chipset binning is much like the approach they apply to CPU speed binning, which is how they determine what constitutes a 3.0GHz Pentium 4 and a 2.80GHz Pentium 4. With that said, there's no additional logic that must go into enabling PAT, which leads us to believe that in theory, enabling the technology on an 865 motherboard would be possible. Enabling PAT on an 865 would be akin to running a 1.6GHz Pentium 4 at 2.2GHz, meaning that if we were able to enable PAT on an 865 that would be overclocking; whereas PAT on the 875P is a fully validated and supported operating mode. It's not clear whether a motherboard manufacturer would even be able to enable PAT as a BIOS option on 865 chipsets or if Intel has put hardware limitations in place to prevent it from working on anything but the 875P. We'll surely find out in the coming weeks once 865 motherboards are released...
So, now you guys are probably already trying to figure out how to overclock the chipset. ;)

 

sirfergy

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The integrated NIC helps because it moves it to the northbridge, where it wont use up precious PCI bandwidth.