OFFICIAL: Blu-Ray vs HD-DVD

[randay]

Originally posted by: Queasy

Originally posted by: randay

Originally posted by: jlmadyson

Originally posted by: randay

Originally posted by: Queasy

Originally posted by: UDT89
i think one format needs to die for either to succeed.

Whichever format wins is going to face even more competition as more and more players enter the digital distribution market. Netflix is in and even Wal-Mart just announced their online distribution service.

Perhaps but that will only really happen in (Im guessing) 3-4 years. Streaming HD content on the order of 15-25 GB of data over the internet is not an option at the moment. It would take days/weeks to download one HD Movie.

Downloaded 7-8g ig compressed Superman HD in about a days time over xbox live, probably could have taken less but there servers weren't up to par me thinks. Oh yea, on a 3mb connection.

nice, they have hd content up for download on xbox live? how much does it cost?

HD movies
- $6 new release
- $4.50 "classic" film

SD movies
- $4 for new releases
- $3 for older movies.

TV
- $3 for HD
- $2 for SD
- Once you purchase a TV show you "own" it. Meaning it is tied to your gamer profile and you can delete it off your HDD and download it again.

This is why I haven't really jumped on Blu-Ray or HD DVD yet. Neither has "won" and more downloadable services are coming out. I just tried out Vongo last night and it is decent. They need to improve their recent movie lineup but it isn't bad for $9.99/month. I was able to download 4 SD movies in ~5 hours.

can you transfer them off your HDD onto a PC or something?

 

[Queasy]

Originally posted by: randay

Originally posted by: Queasy

Originally posted by: randay

Originally posted by: jlmadyson

Originally posted by: randay

Originally posted by: Queasy

Originally posted by: UDT89
i think one format needs to die for either to succeed.

Whichever format wins is going to face even more competition as more and more players enter the digital distribution market. Netflix is in and even Wal-Mart just announced their online distribution service.

Perhaps but that will only really happen in (Im guessing) 3-4 years. Streaming HD content on the order of 15-25 GB of data over the internet is not an option at the moment. It would take days/weeks to download one HD Movie.

Downloaded 7-8g ig compressed Superman HD in about a days time over xbox live, probably could have taken less but there servers weren't up to par me thinks. Oh yea, on a 3mb connection.

nice, they have hd content up for download on xbox live? how much does it cost?

HD movies
- $6 new release
- $4.50 "classic" film

SD movies
- $4 for new releases
- $3 for older movies.

TV
- $3 for HD
- $2 for SD
- Once you purchase a TV show you "own" it. Meaning it is tied to your gamer profile and you can delete it off your HDD and download it again.

This is why I haven't really jumped on Blu-Ray or HD DVD yet. Neither has "won" and more downloadable services are coming out. I just tried out Vongo last night and it is decent. They need to improve their recent movie lineup but it isn't bad for $9.99/month. I was able to download 4 SD movies in ~5 hours.

can you transfer them off your HDD onto a PC or something?

For Live Marketplace Videos...not as of yet. Zune support is rumored for the future but because the DRM for Zune is so wacky...who knows.

Vongo you can transfer.

 

[cleeve]

destreker, you absolutely have to add the transporter 1 and 2 to that list and open season. open season is the best looking BR-D i've seen yet.


And if you want to start a HD-DVD list i can help you a bit considering i own both.

M:I:III
Corpse Bride
King Kong
Batman Begins
V for Vendetta
World Trade Center
Ray
Hulk
Brokeback Mountain

Those have been rated the highest out of all the hd-dvds i've looked at(and i've looked at a lot).

 

[jlmadyson]

HD DVD outsells Blu-ray in the UK

In what many industry insiders believe is a direct result of Blu-ray not having a games console to play its discs, the format is being outsold in the UK by HD DVD.

The official UK charts company indicates that with the support of the Xbox 360 (which can play the HD DVD high definition format discs with an optional drive) HD DVD outsold Blu-ray by a factor of about 4 to 1 in the period leading up to Christmas of last year.

Blu-ray was launched a month earlier than HD DVD in October 2006 and struggled with a paltry 148 discs sold in that month.

November figures were better at 492 and a more impressive 1,194 discs were sold in December 2006.

Meanwhile despite the arrival of HD DVD players a month later than Blu-ray, but bolstered by the availability of Microsoft's Xbox 360, 673 discs were sold in November and a much healthier 7,527 in December.

In total, from launch to the end of 2006, Blu-ray sold 1,834 discs while HD DVD sold 8,200

 

[pennylane]

Keep the updates coming. Thanks!

 

[jlmadyson]

Blu-ray Disc Sales Surpass HD DVD

Data from Nielsen indicates that sales of Blu-ray media for the first time has outpaced that of HD DVD; however, as expected, both camps in the high-definition format war have different ways of interpreting the data.

For the week of February 18, Blu-ray sold 100 units for every 98.71 units of HD DVD. That culminates a several week period where sales of the disc format began to catch up to HD DVD after nearly a year of slow sales.


Analysts credit the launch of the PlayStation 3, which includes a Blu-ray drive, as helping to boost sales. The resurgent format also seems to have a five-to-one advantage over HD DVD in actual player sales.

However, this is where supporters of HD DVD step in to defend their own format.

"Given that the life to date title sales ratios are close to 1:1, and given that Blu-ray has a 5:1 ratio right now on the hardware side due to the PS3, it poses an interesting question for the Blu-ray studios of why Blu-ray software sales are not outpacing HD DVD by a similar ratio?" Universal's HD DVD chief Ken Graffeo told BetaNews.

He noted that while sales are now basically even, HD DVD players still sport an attach rate than is five times higher than Blu-ray's. Furthermore, the #1 selling title across either format is Batman Begins, available only on HD DVD. The #2 title Superman Returns, while available in both formats, shows higher sales for HD DVD copies than the Blu-ray version, the HD DVD Promotional Group noted.

Representatives for Sony's Blu-ray format sing a different song, saying that surpassing HD DVD in disc sales was no big surprise. Chief among its newfound dominance, they claim, are the technical superiority of the format, the launch of the PS3, and better availability of titles and players.

It should be noted that so far this year, Blu-ray titles have outpaced HD DVD releases by a 2-to-1 margin.

Now this, this is Sparta! This fight isn't going anywhere soon.

 

[BigJ]

Originally posted by: jlmadyson
Blu-ray Disc Sales Surpass HD DVD

Data from Nielsen indicates that sales of Blu-ray media for the first time has outpaced that of HD DVD; however, as expected, both camps in the high-definition format war have different ways of interpreting the data.

For the week of February 18, Blu-ray sold 100 units for every 98.71 units of HD DVD. That culminates a several week period where sales of the disc format began to catch up to HD DVD after nearly a year of slow sales.


Analysts credit the launch of the PlayStation 3, which includes a Blu-ray drive, as helping to boost sales. The resurgent format also seems to have a five-to-one advantage over HD DVD in actual player sales.

However, this is where supporters of HD DVD step in to defend their own format.

"Given that the life to date title sales ratios are close to 1:1, and given that Blu-ray has a 5:1 ratio right now on the hardware side due to the PS3, it poses an interesting question for the Blu-ray studios of why Blu-ray software sales are not outpacing HD DVD by a similar ratio?" Universal's HD DVD chief Ken Graffeo told BetaNews.

He noted that while sales are now basically even, HD DVD players still sport an attach rate than is five times higher than Blu-ray's. Furthermore, the #1 selling title across either format is Batman Begins, available only on HD DVD. The #2 title Superman Returns, while available in both formats, shows higher sales for HD DVD copies than the Blu-ray version, the HD DVD Promotional Group noted.

Representatives for Sony's Blu-ray format sing a different song, saying that surpassing HD DVD in disc sales was no big surprise. Chief among its newfound dominance, they claim, are the technical superiority of the format, the launch of the PS3, and better availability of titles and players.

It should be noted that so far this year, Blu-ray titles have outpaced HD DVD releases by a 2-to-1 margin.

Now this, this is Sparta! This fight isn't going anywhere soon.

Not surprising. From my understanding, Blu-Ray had more shittier titles, while HD-DVD had fewer, but better releases from the get-go due to the formats that the movie companies chose. Which would help to explain the article (5:1 player sales with ~1:1 movie sales). People don't buy every crappy movie, but people do buy the awesome ones.