***OFFICIAL*** Basel vs. Man U thread *Final*

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ndee

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Zuberbühler(Keeper) just sux. That's the difference between a top team and a lucky team.
 

ndee

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I'm gettin' ready for goin' out... someone else can take over this thread..... damn....
 

blakeatwork

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Originally posted by: Haircut
Yes they can, all that matters is that the whole of the ball isn't outside the line.

Close call for United again there.

Not if he's outside the field of play. He has to have both feet inbounds to be an eligible striker.
 

Haircut

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Originally posted by: blakeatwork
Originally posted by: Haircut
Yes they can, all that matters is that the whole of the ball isn't outside the line.

Close call for United again there.

Not if he's outside the field of play. He has to have both feet inbounds to be an eligible striker.
Where does it say that in the rules? The ball is in play as long as no fouls have been committed and it doesn't go outside of the pitch markings.
If the ball ends up in the net from that position then surely it doesn't matter how it got there?

 

blakeatwork

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One of those odd rules:

Celebration of a goal

While it is permissible for a player to demonstrate his joy when a goal has been scored, the celebration must not be excessive.

FIFA recognised in Circular No. 579 that such reasonable celebrations are allowed. The practice of choreographed celebrations is not to be encouraged when it results in excessive timewasting and referees are instructed to intervene in such cases.

A player must be cautioned when:

1)in the opinion of the referee, he makes gestures which are provocative, derisory or inflammatory
2)he climbs on to a perimeter fence to celebrate a goal being scored
3)removes his jersey in celebrating a goal

Leaving the field to celebrate a goal is not a cautionable offence in itself but it is essential that players return to the field as soon as possible.

Referees are expected to act in a preventative mode and to exercise common-sense in dealing with the celebration of a goal.


 

Haircut

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Originally posted by: blakeatwork
One of those odd rules:

Celebration of a goal

While it is permissible for a player to demonstrate his joy when a goal has been scored, the celebration must not be excessive.

FIFA recognised in Circular No. 579 that such reasonable celebrations are allowed. The practice of choreographed celebrations is not to be encouraged when it results in excessive timewasting and referees are instructed to intervene in such cases.

A player must be cautioned when:

1)in the opinion of the referee, he makes gestures which are provocative, derisory or inflammatory
2)he climbs on to a perimeter fence to celebrate a goal being scored
3)removes his jersey in celebrating a goal

Leaving the field to celebrate a goal is not a cautionable offence in itself but it is essential that players return to the field as soon as possible.

Referees are expected to act in a preventative mode and to exercise common-sense in dealing with the celebration of a goal.

Are we talking about the same thing? How is that anything to do with what I posted :confused:
 

blakeatwork

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Sorry Haircut, your second post wasn't there when I dropped that in, I just thought the rules against celebrations were amusing.

In response to your rebuttal, it's in the Offical FIFA rules... i'll see if I can find it on their webpage. But a player must have both feet in play, otherwise he's considered out of play.

Law 2:

A playerleaves the field of play and, as he is walking off, the ball comes towards him and he kicks the ball into the goal. What action does the referee take?
The player is cautioned. The game is restarted by an indirect free kick, taken by a player of the opposing team, from the place where the infringement occurred.


Of course, it's very open to interpretation.. but every official who's called a match I've played in, would disallow the goal if the player kicked it in immediately after stepping out of bounds. You're right that the ball has to totally cross the touch or goal line, but the player must be "active" in the field of play, defined as the area encompassed by the touch and goal lines, but excluding the area inside the goal.



 

Haircut

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I would interpret that rule to mean if a player is sent off/substituted and is leaving the field of play then it is an offence for him to kick the ball, not just if he has one foot out of play.

I have never seen a referee interpret the rule as you suggested, in fact I've seen many players actually go out of the field of play while running down the wing and then cross the ball in. As long as the ball remains in play then it isn't an offence as far as I'm concerned.
I'm sure people have different interpretations to the rule, but I personally have never come across that one.
 

blakeatwork

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Well, I'm not disagreeing with your take on the rule... like I said, it's open for interpretation.

When I played in a youth (16-18)league in Ireland, that rule was called to mean that once a player left the field, he was ineligible until play was stopped, effectively short-handing his side.

Looking back... that's a pretty dumb rule... :eek: