Official Athlon 64 X2 preorder/instock thread...

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Duvie

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Yeah newegg is a POS site now, IMHO......I am done with buying anything from them period!!! That is abolutely ridiculous...only 140 over what AMD had set for retail boxed cpus....
 
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Originally posted by: Nanobaud
Check out the price on NewEgg, I can't quite bring myself to type it in...

Newegg 4400+

I'm not even ready to buy one yet, but it's like watching a train wreck, I just can't help looking...

nBd

WTF. :Q

The very definition of "price gouging". :roll:

:thumbsdown:
 

T2k

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Man... when I was considering them for a sec, it was already ridiculously high, $689... now it's waaay over $719... I'm done with Screwegg.

PS: this really shows how utterly stupid idiots they are - I used to buy a plenty of company stuff at Screwegg, a sh*tload of money per year... it's over, period.
 

noctdeus

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I wish someone would hurry up and invent the "replicator" found in Star Trek, then there would be enough to go around for everybody. Of course they may have some trouble with people pirating copies of the hardware though.. Clone Wars of a different kind.

 

nippyjun

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Originally posted by: T2k
Tigerdirect says it's not In Stock in fact, they'll get it on Friday... I ordered 2, they promise to ship it by Tuesday, so I keep my single order at TG alive until next Tuesday...

I had ordered one from td about a week ago and it said "in stock". Then the next day it said backordered. Then i called and they said it's due Friday, then Monday then next friday. i canceled my order.

Why can't these companies keep accurate real time stock information. I just hate it when it says "in stock" , you place the order, then it suddenly says backordered.
 

ProviaFan

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Originally posted by: noctdeus
I wish someone would hurry up and invent the "replicator" found in Star Trek, then there would be enough to go around for everybody. Of course they may have some trouble with people pirating copies of the hardware though.. Clone Wars of a different kind.
I've wandered over that philosophical minefield once or twice in my mind when I was bored... In that case, the government would try to regulate the crap out of it (or ban it outright), because it would totally upset material-based businesses (wrong term, but it's been a year since I had economics), just like the ability to perfectly duplicate digital media without any tangible loss to the owner is upsetting intellectual property-based business currently. With that said, I highly doubt that "replicators" are possible, so it's probably a moot point.
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BlingBlingArsch

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Originally posted by: ProviaFan
Originally posted by: noctdeus
I wish someone would hurry up and invent the "replicator" found in Star Trek, then there would be enough to go around for everybody. Of course they may have some trouble with people pirating copies of the hardware though.. Clone Wars of a different kind.
I've wandered over that philosophical minefield once or twice in my mind when I was bored... In that case, the government would try to regulate the crap out of it (or ban it outright), because it would totally upset material-based businesses (wrong term, but it's been a year since I had economics), just like the ability to perfectly duplicate digital media without any tangible loss to the owner is upsetting intellectual property-based business currently. With that said, I highly doubt that "replicators" are possible, so it's probably a moot point.
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Those replicators already do exist - u and i just dont have the right to use them cuz they are called Fabs owned by the rich companies :)
 

noctdeus

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Originally posted by: ProviaFan
I've wandered over that philosophical minefield once or twice in my mind when I was bored... In that case, the government would try to regulate the crap out of it (or ban it outright), because it would totally upset material-based businesses (wrong term, but it's been a year since I had economics), just like the ability to perfectly duplicate digital media without any tangible loss to the owner is upsetting intellectual property-based business currently. With that said, I highly doubt that "replicators" are possible, so it's probably a moot point.
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Actually, with all of the exciting developments in nanotechnology, I don't see why it wouldn't be possible. All it would take is assembling it at the molecular level, something which nanotechnology might one day be able to do (think nanobots). It might not assemble it within seconds like Star Trek's replicator, but as long as it works..

We probably won't see such a thing in our life-time though, but who knows what we'll have in 50 years. Just look at how far we've come since say, 1990? Back then I NEVER would have thought I'd see web addresses on cereal boxes! lol

 

walkman

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I'm starting to wonder if the supply problem is because AMD is having bigger than expected demand in the OEM channel -- or, what if -- Dell is finally going to start selling AMD products and is demanding all of AMD's X2 chips?

Here's a link that says Intel's dual core chips are not selling well: http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=24283
How long is Dell going to stick with Intel if their products don't sell?


Also, do you think early or later chips will be more overclockable?
 

TankGuys

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Originally posted by: nippyjun
Originally posted by: T2k
Tigerdirect says it's not In Stock in fact, they'll get it on Friday... I ordered 2, they promise to ship it by Tuesday, so I keep my single order at TG alive until next Tuesday...

I had ordered one from td about a week ago and it said "in stock". Then the next day it said backordered. Then i called and they said it's due Friday, then Monday then next friday. i canceled my order.

Why can't these companies keep accurate real time stock information. I just hate it when it says "in stock" , you place the order, then it suddenly says backordered.


Real time stock info is a bit harder than you'd think...

For example, we used to have it work where once you placed something in your shopping cart, the number available dropped by 1. Sounds great, except many times people add things to thier cart but don't buy them... so they go into "la la land" until thier session expires and it pops back into our available stock. This is even more problematic when the person keeps comming back before the session expires, they can keep that item tied up indefinitely, which happens more than you'd think.

So the next option is to subtract one when the order is confirmed. Also sounds reasonable, but then if you open yourself up to 2 very ugly situations:

1.) Person X puts the item in thier cart at 5:00, but shops for a while and doesn't check out until 5:30. Person Y comes along, adds the item to thier cart at 5:15 and checks out immediately at 5:17. Now person X loses the item they had, even though they "took" it 15 minutes earier.

2.) Person X and Person Y each put the item in cart at 5:00, but X checks out at 5:15 and Y at 5:20. Both added the items at the same time, but person Y gets an out of stock message when they check out, even though it said it was in-stock when they put it in the cart.

Either way, you get a lot of unhappy people. You also get unhappy people when you don't have real-time stock levels, but the goal is to get as close as possible, while avoiding the problems mentioned above. It is annoying as a customer, however, to not know for sure if something is in stock until after you place your order, I'll give you that!





 

EODetroit

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What you should probably do then is do a little from column a, and a little from column b. For everything you have a lot of stock of, do the first option, for everything that you have limited quantity of, do the second option.

Knowing that what you ordered really is in fact going to be in stock and arrive at your door is huge, and that's a big reason I shop at Newegg often. No one does it better than them.

Now everything in life is a shade of grey. A lot of people are upset that "Screwegg" is jacking up their prices unreasonably... well its clear they aren't perfect. They did this on last year's new video cards from ATI and Nvidia too, so it shouldn't be a shock to anyone. I fully expected it from Newegg in fact. They do a hell of a lot of other stuff Right though, so I'm going to continue to shop there, just not for highly-anticipated low-supply stuff.
 

noctdeus

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My X2 4400+ FewEgg order is arriving a day early!! :) I ordered FedUp Express Saver, so it was scheduled for tomorrow, but it shows that it's on the truck for delivery. So it won't be long now! :)

Yes, I paid about $45 more than I should have, but I'm absolutely sick and tired of waiting. So it's worth it to me. The FewEgg prices will go down once they get more in stock. They usually have very reasonable (sometimes extremely good) prices. Everything else about them is damn good. I've never had any issues with them.

 

stomp05

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It seems like a warning system would help alleviate the "all or nothing" problem. For example, the online DVD rental service I use assigns a color level to the availability of a disc. Green means you can feel very confident down to red meaning it's out of stock. The shades in the middle indicate that there are copies available but because of high demand you may not get one.

Conceptually, the colors could be based on supply divided by demand over a previous time period. So if there are 100 items in stock and 10 were sold in the last hour then the buyer could feel reasonably confident that green means he/she will get one.

Any demand swings would push the color bar down. e.g. when someone posts on a forum that stock is back in and a flurry of orders (or even page views) show up.

Red would simply indicate that stock is officially allocated based on firm orders. But it doesn't mean that the buyer shouldn't place an order. If they put it in their cart they'll be added to the queue in case there are cancellations.

The key to all this is to explain to the buyer why absolute stock levels don't work. Switch the perception from "you said it was in stock" to "what are my chances of getting this part". If you put in an order on a hot item that's showing yellow then the letdown isn't so bad. And it helps the retailer feed the demand level back into determining stock levels.

Lastly, since the colors are determined by both confirmed orders against stock available *and* the "velocity" of orders, there's no need to worry about items floating in carts. In the real world it would require a lot of other parameters but think about the amount of tweaking involved in Amazon's system.

Just a thought.
 

Capt Caveman

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Originally posted by: walkman
I'm starting to wonder if the supply problem is because AMD is having bigger than expected demand in the OEM channel -- or, what if -- Dell is finally going to start selling AMD products and is demanding all of AMD's X2 chips?

Here's a link that says Intel's dual core chips are not selling well: http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=24283
How long is Dell going to stick with Intel if their products don't sell?


Also, do you think early or later chips will be more overclockable?

Dell is not demanding X2s. And they all have a couple of models that have an Intel dual-core option. Dell is selling plenty of single core cpus and that's not going to change. If Dell were to start selling AMDs, they would start with Opterons in servers where they could make a lot of more money and where there would be more demand.

 

BeakerChem

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Ha!!!

Got one finally! Newegg has (as of 11:27 EST) teh 4800+ X2 in stock. I have been missing them at every auto-notification for the last week or so! Lol.

The price was gouged a bit ($1067 vs, what $1001 MSRP?), but I am just thinking of that as tax. I missed the GTX when it hit in stock yesterday. Maybe I'll have another shot at it today.

This feels like trying to get concert tickets when they go on sale and then sell out in 6 seconds...
 

jc717

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Monarch seems to have the OEM 4400s in stock for $585...
Just ordered a combo with a DFI board.
 

Markfw

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Originally posted by: jc717
Monarch seems to have the OEM 4400s in stock for $585...
Just ordered a combo with a DFI board.

Link ?? I only see retail
 

jc717

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Originally posted by: Markfw900
Originally posted by: jc717
Monarch seems to have the OEM 4400s in stock for $585...
Just ordered a combo with a DFI board.

Link ?? I only see retail


Here's the link to Monarch's AMD combo page.
http://www.monarchcomputer.com/Merchant...&Product_Code=80152&Category_Code=AMDC

When you select the 4400 OEM chip, there's pop up that says that you're only pre-ordering it.
Same thing happened when I ordered yesterday, but I got my Fed Ex tracking number today, so they're in stock and shipping.
Also, Monarch's AMD combos come with free full versions of Far Cry and Half Life 2.

JC
 

Akele

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Dabs.com (UK) had some of the 4400+ processors in stock on Friday and one in stock today. The only reason I know they had one in stock today is because I bought it. :) The 4400+ seem almost impossible to get hold of in the UK at the moment.