*Official* ASUS P5Q Deluxe Intel P45 Board Thread

[Cogman]

I LOVE this board. I haven't tried to get my quad as high as possible, but the board took me from 2.4 semi-stable to 3.2 solid (8 x 400) with room to go up to 3.6. Very nice board, I'm very pleased with it. (P5Q-E)

 

[Mustanggt]

Someone help me decide please I want to get the PQ5 PRO but also I have a conroe 6300 C2D that runs close to 3 Ghz, newegg has deal if you buy E8400 and PQ5 pro you get $20 off, what would you do? I know the E8400 is faster than the 6300 clock for clock plus i have read they overclock way past 3 Ghz?

 

[GundamF91]

I'm getting P5Q-E, once the board gets here I'll post results.

I skipped over "PRO" because the "E" is pretty much the Deluxe version without the extra stuff. if you check out the layout and components, E is just about same as DLX. The 8 phase power looks to be less cramped than the 16 phase power. the 16 phase almost appears to be squeezed in there, and I didn't find the extra $30 to be worth the benefit. Now the PRO model does not have the arrangement. It may share the features, but the design layout is not the same, more like the vanilla version, and that's why I opted for the E, it's just 5 bucks more.

 

[Mustanggt]

I was considering getting a X48 they are one $25 more than the Deluxe P45 and the CF is better

 

[phillyman36]

Hey can some tell me if a 9600 gt will fit the pci x blue x16 slot without blocking the 6th sata port? My current p5k e wifi sata slot 1 i cant use because the evga 9600 gt block it. Can i use all six sata ports on the ich10r?

 

[n7]

For those of you who tweak your RAM

http://picsorban.com/upload/r-...0pullin%20enabled).jpg

http://picsorban.com/upload/r-...0pullin%20enabled).jpg

Things are much faster in Everest when running:
8x438 5:6 DDR2-1051 tRD 8 w/ pull-in enabled
vs.
10x350 2:3 DDR2-1050 tRD 6 w/ pull-in enabled

Even latency is better with the higher FSB & looser tRD, which surprised me.

 

[tr1kstanc3]

Originally posted by: Mustanggt
Someone help me decide please I want to get the PQ5 PRO but also I have a conroe 6300 C2D that runs close to 3 Ghz, newegg has deal if you buy E8400 and PQ5 pro you get $20 off, what would you do? I know the E8400 is faster than the 6300 clock for clock plus i have read they overclock way past 3 Ghz?

are you feeling limited in cpu speed? anybody can tell you to upgrade but do you really need the extra power? what type of applications are you running? games?

i have the xeon e3110 which is the equivalent of the e8400. i have no problem overclocking it to 4ghz but i keep it at 3.6 for daily use because it is already very fast. i actually do not see a reason to push it any further right now since it runs everything exceptionally well. if you noticed that your pc feels sluggish then i would suggest getting a new cpu or more memory.

 

[VChuck]

Just built a computer,with this mobo Asus P5Q deluxe,Q9300,4gb G-skill pc 8000 PQ.Sapphire 3870,WD 500 gb cavier sata hd.Vista Home prem.64bit.Antec 900 case
for my friend,little overkill for him but, its what he wanted.It's pretty sweet,but CF running at 8x8 kinda sucks,should have maybe went for x-38,48 F'n Newegg screwed up my friends order and Bank account (double charged and put his account in the red)

N7,why did you get rid of your DFI UT P-35?I think I know, but wanted to ask anyway. I just bought mine about a mo.ago am happy with it so far,have not had time to really play with it though.
duh, just read your last post.

 

[Srotten]

Can anyone verify usage of the WD VelociRaptor drives in a RAID 0 configuration? Also does this board have 2 RAID controllers so you can have a RAID 0 Bootup and RAID 1 Data drives?

 

[n7]

Originally posted by: VChuck
N7,why did you get rid of your DFI UT P-35?

Getting 8 GB stable on it was basically impossible unless i used 2:3 ratio, & even with that it still couldn't do HCI Memtest w/o failing eventually.

It was a great mobo for 2x2 GB...but for 4x2 GB it made me want to kill myself.

 

[lopri]

Looking good. I noticed that P45 supports up to 16GB of system RAM. This is first from Intel on desktop chipset.

Thanks for the shots, n7. I compared with my X48 shots, and the trend since the Conroe launch is still there. Read/Latency are better on X48 but Write/Copy are better on P45. This means Intel's once again enhanced the prefetch and buffering on the MCH. It is not my favorite way of doing things (me = still loving 975X), but I guess it only makes sense with the increasing number of cores and system memory.

I might pick one of the less expensive P45 boards to test things out. What is the difference between P5Q-Pro and P5Q-E?

 

[OLpal]

Originally posted by: tr1kstanc3
the main upgrade over a p35 chipset is the ability to run crossfire x8/x8 and it utilizes pcie 2.0 spec. the x38/x48 boards allow x16/x16 crossfire. another advantage over the p35 (and the x38/45) is the 65nm fabrication process which will consume less energy and give off less heat.

Tr1 how much of a difference in frame rates & general performance are we talking about between P-45 crossfire x8/x8 and the x38/x48 boards which allow x16/x16 crossfire.
Both under PCIx16 2.o right ??

This could well change my plans on motherboards as i had chosen an Asus P5Q-E P-45 for my Q9550 build..

Ol'Pal

 

[FingerDemon]

I am seriously considering getting the P5Q Deluxe board. But I am confused about some things. I haven't done a build in a while.

If I get this:

ASUS P5Q Deluxe LGA 775 Intel P45
Intel Q6600 (already bought on sale)
OCZ Platinum 4GB 2x2BG DDR2 1000 (PC2 8000)
MSI NX8800GT 512M OC GeForce 8800 GT 512 256-bit GDDR3 PCI-E 2.0 SLI supported
Corsair 550VX 550W ATX12V V2.2 PSU
Western Digital Caviar SE16 500GB SATA 3.0Gb
Logitech X-540 70 watts 5.1 Speakers
Acer AL2216WBD 22" Widescreen LCD Monitor 5ms response (already bought on sale)
COOLER MASTER Centurion 534 RC-534-KKN2-GP Black Case (already bought on sale)

Does anyone see any known issues if I am running XP 32 bit? Will I be limited to 3GB? Is anyone running this board with 4GB and XP32bit? If so, what RAM are you using? I noticed the G.Skill is popular in posts on this board.

Secondly, I notice several people listing a similar setup to the one above with an 8800 GT or GTS card. But this board supports Crossfire, which is ATI only, right?

So, if I got an nVidia based card, I would have to buy two ATI cards if I ever decided to try Crossfire, is that right?

Realistically, I probably won't ever try Crossfire since I never have time for gaming anymore, but I hate to pay for the functionality but put myself in a position where I can't even use it.

Sorry for the newbie questions. Thanks in advance for any replies.

PS: Also, thanks to AmberClad for setting me straight in an earlier post about DDR memory options. I got confused because a review for the P5Q3 listed DDR2 memory. But that was just used in another board they compared the P5Q3 against.

 

[Nocturnal]

Originally posted by: FingerDemon
I am seriously considering getting the P5Q Deluxe board. But I am confused about some things. I haven't done a build in a while.

If I get this:

ASUS P5Q Deluxe LGA 775 Intel P45
Intel Q6600 (already bought on sale)
OCZ Platinum 4GB 2x2BG DDR2 1000 (PC2 8000)
MSI NX8800GT 512M OC GeForce 8800 GT 512 256-bit GDDR3 PCI-E 2.0 SLI supported
Corsair 550VX 550W ATX12V V2.2 PSU
Western Digital Caviar SE16 500GB SATA 3.0Gb
Logitech X-540 70 watts 5.1 Speakers
Acer AL2216WBD 22" Widescreen LCD Monitor 5ms response (already bought on sale)
COOLER MASTER Centurion 534 RC-534-KKN2-GP Black Case (already bought on sale)

Does anyone see any known issues if I am running XP 32 bit? Will I be limited to 3GB? Is anyone running this board with 4GB and XP32bit? If so, what RAM are you using? I noticed the G.Skill is popular in posts on this board.

Secondly, I notice several people listing a similar setup to the one above with an 8800 GT or GTS card. But this board supports Crossfire, which is ATI only, right?

So, if I got an nVidia based card, I would have to buy two ATI cards if I ever decided to try Crossfire, is that right?

Realistically, I probably won't ever try Crossfire since I never have time for gaming anymore, but I hate to pay for the functionality but put myself in a position where I can't even use it.

Sorry for the newbie questions. Thanks in advance for any replies.

PS: Also, thanks to AmberClad for setting me straight in an earlier post about DDR memory options. I got confused because a review for the P5Q3 listed DDR2 memory. But that was just used in another board they compared the P5Q3 against.

I just built a similar setup and yes, you'll be limited to 3GB. It's a limitation of Windows XP 32-bit and not the hardware itself.

 

[FingerDemon]

That's a bummer, Nocturnal. Out of curiousity, though... What RAM are you using?

Anyone have an opinion on the least expensive 64bit Windows version?

Thanks

 

[tr1kstanc3]

Originally posted by: OLpal

Originally posted by: tr1kstanc3
the main upgrade over a p35 chipset is the ability to run crossfire x8/x8 and it utilizes pcie 2.0 spec. the x38/x48 boards allow x16/x16 crossfire. another advantage over the p35 (and the x38/45) is the 65nm fabrication process which will consume less energy and give off less heat.

Tr1 how much of a difference in frame rates & general performance are we talking about between P-45 crossfire x8/x8 and the x38/x48 boards which allow x16/x16 crossfire.
Both under PCIx16 2.o right ??

This could well change my plans on motherboards as i had chosen an Asus P5Q-E P-45 for my Q9550 build..

Ol'Pal

if you decide to go crossfire and you play at high resolutions (1920x1200+) it would be worth considering an x38/48. here is a good review.

asus just released a new x48 board that looks very nice too. i personally wanted all the extra features of the p5q deluxe model and the addition of a cooler and more efficient chipset/southbridge for overclocking. i never planned on going crossfire though..

 

[MyLeftNut]

It's disappointing that the P45 has lower performance in crossfire compared to X48. I hope it's not a problem with the chipset itself or lack of bandwidth. Afterall, it's still a new a new chipset. It just doesn't seem likely that 2 pci-e 2.0 x8 slots which provides equivalent bandwidth to 2 pci-e 1.1 x16 would be affected by such a large margin. Or perhaps it's a brand specific problem (gigabyte)? There was an article at tomshardware that tested pci-e 2.0 x16, x8, x4, and x1 with a GX2 and it seems that the only game that would stress the available bandwidth at pci-e 2.0 x8 was flight similator when quality and resolutions are cranked up.

Has anyone benchmarked any crossfire in game performances on a P5Q?

 

[chizow]

Installed the P5Q-E last week and finally got a chance to mess around with it. Very happy with the build quality, BIOS features and stability so far. I almost swore off Asus after my experiences with the P5N-E SLI (650i).

This was an upgrade from a MSI P6N Platinum SLI, with the biggest difference being this chipset is stable at 400MHz+ with Quad Core. I was able to get 3.2GHz stable on the P6N, but there wasn't any more room before the board flaked out.....

I tested for 3 days at 8x400 = 3.2GHz with minimal BIOS changes and yesterday started pushing it once I was satisfied it was stable there. I tried going to 9x400 with lots of changes and to the BIOS, but the CPU gets MUCH hotter with this board than with the P6N. Anything over 1.325 Vcore pushes temps over 70C and stops OCCT. I raised OCCT shutdown temp to 75C and it BSOD'd on me.

I used Tuniq TX-2 this time around...thinking of going back and applying AS5 instead to see if it lowers temps. I'm quite sure I can get 9x400 stable if I can get temps down a bit, but overall I'm very pleased with this board compared to NV chipsets. No more X-Fi problems, no more flaky SATA drivers, no more poor FSB speeds.

 

[n7]

Originally posted by: lopri
Looking good. I noticed that P45 supports up to 16GB of system RAM. This is first from Intel on desktop chipset.

Thanks for the shots, n7. I compared with my X48 shots, and the trend since the Conroe launch is still there. Read/Latency are better on X48 but Write/Copy are better on P45. This means Intel's once again enhanced the prefetch and buffering on the MCH. It is not my favorite way of doing things (me = still loving 975X), but I guess it only makes sense with the increasing number of cores and system memory.

I might pick one of the less expensive P45 boards to test things out. What is the difference between P5Q-Pro and P5Q-E?

Well, for Everest latency, i can't beat my DFI P35.
It was much lower latency, likely due to the lower tRD i could run.

At 350 MHz, lowest it'll POST @ is tRD 6 w/ pull-in enabled, whereas my DFI could do tRD 5.
I never actually did any higher FSB testing on the DFI since as soon as i left 2:3, things were unstable.

But this P5Q isn't really that awesome if you want record breaking Everest runs, especially for those with CPU they need to run a high FSB with.
IIRC (can be found in the XS thread), when you run 1:1 on the P5Q, lowest tRD you can set is 10 i believe...so it's very anti 1:1, which fine for me (don't like 1:1 anyway ).

Anyway, latency is worse on this board, but i get much better read/write/copy scores than i had on my P35, & those scores are with deliberately loose subtimings, too.

 

[n7]

Okay, here's some actually optimized Everest results (subtimings on auto now, which is tighter).
Also Clock Twister at Moderate instead of Light (any higher than moderate = OS won't load).

http://img166.imageshack.us/im...38c8861l593q670ef8.jpg

Same settings (unless an auto one changed on its own!) after another reboot gave me better latency but worse bandwidth
http://img166.imageshack.us/im...71c8851l583q670nk8.jpg

 

[secretanchitman]

the official 704 bios is now posted on asus' site...but then again i havent checked their site in a while.

will report back in a bit if there is any issues!

 

[secretanchitman]

happy to report that there is no issues with the 704 bios!

 

[n7]

Hehe, i've been running 0704 for a while now.

Just flashed to 0706 earlier today.

For those who are adventurous.
http://kielbaski.com/pmp/MB/AS...Q-ASUS-DELUXE-0706.zip

 

[lopri]

Originally posted by: n7
But this P5Q isn't really that awesome if you want record breaking Everest runs, especially for those with CPU they need to run a high FSB with.
IIRC (can be found in the XS thread), when you run 1:1 on the P5Q, lowest tRD you can set is 10 i believe...so it's very anti 1:1, which fine for me (don't like 1:1 anyway ).

:Q

Goodness.

Well, it looks like Intel certainly beefed up the MCH if you can keep up (and get better) performance with that kind of tRD. (and DDR2!) I wonder if the MCH has L2 cache and Intel maybe quadrapled it?

 

[lopri]

Edit: Nevermind. For some reason I thought P45 had 24 PCIe lanes. (It has 16 on NB)