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Megatomic

Megatomic

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When will these things be available? Anyone have any idea of an approximate cost?
Edit DOH! A price was just posted... :p
 
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xype

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Originally posted by: Megatomic
Wow, between the OSX.3 and the new G5 architecture I am starting to feel some true Mac envy. :( It's too bad I'd have to sell one of my children on the black market to afford one though.
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You'd sell your kids for $1999?

They say they'll be @ 3GHz in 12 months.
 
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Emphasis on noise reduction. Great news!

"It is quieter than previous generation machines. The front is totally mesh for air circulation (as is the back). There are 4 separate thermal zones (power supply, processor bay, I/O cards, and rotating storage. It has nine different fans, which are independently speed controlled. It is 35dBA at normal use (twice as quiet as the current G4 Macs). Models start at 1.6MHz ($2000, GF FX5200, 256MB of RAM), 1.8GHz (double memory, double disk, $2399) and dual 2.0GHz ($2999, Radeon 9600 Pro)."
 
Megatomic

Megatomic

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Originally posted by: xype
Originally posted by: Megatomic
Wow, between the OSX.3 and the new G5 architecture I am starting to feel some true Mac envy. :( It's too bad I'd have to sell one of my children on the black market to afford one though.
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You'd sell your kids for $1999?
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No, I was thinking the machine with a nice Studio LCD screen would cost exorbitant amounts of money. I'm surprised by that price...
 
Eug

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The dual G5 smoked the P4 and dual Xeon. It is 41% faster on FPU than the dual-Xeon and 3% faster on integer (via SPEC tests).
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Can we confirm these are dual Xeons???
 
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Eug

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Originally posted by: Eug
The dual G5 smoked the P4 and dual Xeon. It is 41% faster on FPU than the dual-Xeon and 3% faster on integer (via SPEC tests).
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Can we confirm these are dual Xeons???
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Hmmm... I'm seeing dual Xeon in more than one place, but it's 533 MHz Xeons.

So not a direct comparison with 800 MHz and HT, but still, it's DAAAAMMMMNNN fast. :)

And IBM has announced a 3 GHz G5 within 12 months!
 
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9 fans and quieter than the latest powermacs. I'd take quiet with 9 fans over 100 watt Pentium4 every day. (And, yes, my dual 1.25 G4 is quieter than my 1300 Duron) :eek:)
 
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XBoxLPU

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The $2999 price is great also

The apple store is updating at the moment...... ... hmmmm
 
GTaudiophile

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Phil Schiller shows bakeoff, showing that G5 is 2.1x faster. It takes 15 minutes to transition code to G5 (just recompiling). The G5 wins in 3D rendering, Mathematica 5 (both matrix and integer calculations--over twice as fast). Mathematica: "The competition isn't PCs anymore. It's high-end Unix workstations, and the G5 is faster than them too." Schiller demos Emagic audio software where 1000 simultaneous voices can be played with 24-bit (high) quality stereo. Then shows 100 EQs, 8 bands each (with stereo) == 1600 bands. The G5 handles it with only 25% usage. Summary: Photoshop is 2.1x faster, Luxology is 2.3x faster, Mathematica is 2.3x faster, and Emagic (no calculation)

Jobs then touted the G5 Power Mac's performance against Dell. The dual 3.0GHz Xeon (533MHz Bus, 512MB RAM) from Dell costs $4000 and isn't as fast. It has the same stuff but slower. All three Power Mac G5 machines are due in August. SPEC int test show that 2GHz G5, the 3GHz P4 (fastest available), and 3.0Ghz Xeon. Using the GCC 3.3 compiler, VeriTest independent test lab showed that the G5 is 10$ slower on integer, but 21% faster on FPU. The dual G5 smoked the P4 and dual Xeon. It is 41% faster on FPU than the dual-Xeon and 3% faster on integer (via SPEC tests). Both single and dual processor tests were shown. Adobe said that Photoshop will be updated when these machines are released.
 
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XBoxLPU

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so was the benchmarks ran on Panther ? Can't wait to see the speed once software is optimized!
 
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No price breaks on anything?

:(

Guess I still wont be buying one.

Although they are really nice those price tags keep me with Windows. I can deal with a few extra crashes knowing I have $1000+ still in my pocket.
 
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Leon

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Apple once again posts misleading benchmarks:

"Apple" P4 3.06 Ghz Xeon Int / FP

880/693

Spec.org published

Dell Precision WorkStation 650 (3.06 GHz Xeon) 1 1053 1063

 
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xype

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I'd say Anand should get a PowerMac G5 and a Xeon machine and make some comparisons so we have a semi-unbiased review. And while he's at it, he can test the iPod with it.
 
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