Well,
I had to RMA my power supply for voltage fluctuations in both the +12v and +3.3v lines. MBM5 and SilenTek both reported the same thing. By the way, I think SilenTek's readings are pretty right on, because I get the same stuf from MBM5.
Now, I hope this voltage problem isn't the motherboard's voltage regulator, and NOT the PSU. I'll know soon enough once I swap out the PSU. If it is the mobo, looks like I've got another RMA in my future. Hope AJump has a good RMA policy.
I had to RMA my power supply for voltage fluctuations in both the +12v and +3.3v lines. MBM5 and SilenTek both reported the same thing. By the way, I think SilenTek's readings are pretty right on, because I get the same stuf from MBM5.
Now, I hope this voltage problem isn't the motherboard's voltage regulator, and NOT the PSU. I'll know soon enough once I swap out the PSU. If it is the mobo, looks like I've got another RMA in my future. Hope AJump has a good RMA policy.
I think the bios gives wrong 12 v. voltage reading ....I'm about .46v lower on the on +12v rail compared to my last mobo......
What's your voltage issues?...they will fluctuate about .03-.05 volts at times.....especially the +12v and +5v bus.
What's your voltage issues?...they will fluctuate about .03-.05 volts at times.....especially the +12v and +5v bus.
My +12v goes from 11.74, 11.86, 11.25, and 11.25
And that was just the last 15 seconds of looking at it while replying to this post. It's AFU. I sent an e-mail to Antec and they told me the same thing. I went ahead and bought the Antec True 480 yesterday evening. Should be here tomorrow (LOVE Newegg). Once I get it, I'll swap them out, send the True 430 back. Of course I'll immediately take a close look at those readings. If I see jacked up voltage again, I can only assume it's a problem with the motherboard and RMA it quick and get either another Aopen or maybe the Abit IC7-G. I hope it doesn't come to that, though.
Hey. At least we're keeping the official thread bumped up.
Why in the hell haven't the moderator's made this a sticky yet??? i think their presence in the forums has been pretty nonexistent
And that was just the last 15 seconds of looking at it while replying to this post. It's AFU. I sent an e-mail to Antec and they told me the same thing. I went ahead and bought the Antec True 480 yesterday evening. Should be here tomorrow (LOVE Newegg). Once I get it, I'll swap them out, send the True 430 back. Of course I'll immediately take a close look at those readings. If I see jacked up voltage again, I can only assume it's a problem with the motherboard and RMA it quick and get either another Aopen or maybe the Abit IC7-G. I hope it doesn't come to that, though.
Hey. At least we're keeping the official thread bumped up.
Why in the hell haven't the moderator's made this a sticky yet??? i think their presence in the forums has been pretty nonexistent
My 12v readings go from 11.38-11.44...which to me is normal fluctuation, but low....On my other board it was 11.84-11.90....So I know that the low reading is just a bios issue.....
If you have to RMA the board, I'd definately stick with the AOpen.
If you have to RMA the board, I'd definately stick with the AOpen.
THANK YOU MODERATORS!!!
Well,
My Antec True 480 should be delivered today. Tonight I'll rip out the True 430 and get it ready for shipment back to Newegg. If I get the same kind of voltage fluctuations with the True 480, it's gotta be the mobo. I'll report back after I'm done.
Well,
My Antec True 480 should be delivered today. Tonight I'll rip out the True 430 and get it ready for shipment back to Newegg. If I get the same kind of voltage fluctuations with the True 480, it's gotta be the mobo. I'll report back after I'm done.
I've picked up the True Control 550 from Antec for the new machine with AX4C-Max. I've adjusted the voltages and monitored using Motherboard Monitor 5.30. All seem stable so I'm guessing you have a defective power supply.
Well, do I need a new motherboard or what???
After seeing wild voltage fluctuations in the +12v range and sometimes in the 3.3v range, I RMA'd my Antec True 430 PSU and spent the better part of this evening intstalling an Antec True 480.
Going into SilenTek, I am still getting wild voltage fluctuations, enough to get the occasional audible beep and message that my +12 volt exceeds the limits. I also got two messages that my vCore exceeded limits.
MBM5 is showing 11.55, with the occasional flicker to 11.67 SilenTek is showing 11.55, 11.50, 11.32, even dipping down to 11.01. I've got the LOW limit in the settings at 10.95, and I'm STILL getting the beeps. I just turned on the audible warning for MBM5, it said that the voltage was down to 11.37, beyond the 5%l imit.
Is it possible that the voltage regulation on my board is messed up and I need a new board?? I don't know how great AJump's RMA service is, so I hope I'm not screwed here. I will try to unplug the computer from the surge protector and plug it into another socket, but I don't think that's going to help.
EDIT Just got another warning from MBM5 that the voltage was at 10.82. Now both MBM5 and SilenTek are reporting that my system/mobo temp is at -47C (yes, negative). CPU temp has remained steady at 37, and CPU kernel temp is 70C.
After seeing wild voltage fluctuations in the +12v range and sometimes in the 3.3v range, I RMA'd my Antec True 430 PSU and spent the better part of this evening intstalling an Antec True 480.
Going into SilenTek, I am still getting wild voltage fluctuations, enough to get the occasional audible beep and message that my +12 volt exceeds the limits. I also got two messages that my vCore exceeded limits.
MBM5 is showing 11.55, with the occasional flicker to 11.67 SilenTek is showing 11.55, 11.50, 11.32, even dipping down to 11.01. I've got the LOW limit in the settings at 10.95, and I'm STILL getting the beeps. I just turned on the audible warning for MBM5, it said that the voltage was down to 11.37, beyond the 5%l imit.
Is it possible that the voltage regulation on my board is messed up and I need a new board?? I don't know how great AJump's RMA service is, so I hope I'm not screwed here. I will try to unplug the computer from the surge protector and plug it into another socket, but I don't think that's going to help.
EDIT Just got another warning from MBM5 that the voltage was at 10.82. Now both MBM5 and SilenTek are reporting that my system/mobo temp is at -47C (yes, negative). CPU temp has remained steady at 37, and CPU kernel temp is 70C.
Sounds like something is loading down the +12 volts.
The motherboard does not regulate the +12 volts but it does use that voltage (creating a load).
How many fans, hard drives, cdrom, etc in the machine? Try running just the power supply, one hard drive, and only videio card installed (with ram and cpu of course). See if voltages fluctuate. If they don't then start adding one device at a time until you can figure out what is loading it.
My True Control 550 is rock solid.
The motherboard does not regulate the +12 volts but it does use that voltage (creating a load).
How many fans, hard drives, cdrom, etc in the machine? Try running just the power supply, one hard drive, and only videio card installed (with ram and cpu of course). See if voltages fluctuate. If they don't then start adding one device at a time until you can figure out what is loading it.
My True Control 550 is rock solid.
I am considering either this Aopen board or the MSI,
can you tell me if the AOpen as the option to automaticaly shut down the computer if the temperature of the CPU is reached a some point, or any other similar function which protects overheating.
Thanks
can you tell me if the AOpen as the option to automaticaly shut down the computer if the temperature of the CPU is reached a some point, or any other similar function which protects overheating.
Thanks
Wizard,
Thanks for the reply.
I've got two intake fans, one top exhaust, and one rear exhaust. One intake is connected to a "FAN ONLY" connector on the PSU, the other intake straight to the PSU. The top exhaust is plugged into the other "FAN ONLY" connector. The exhaust is a 3 pin, and is connected to the "SYSFAN3" connector on the mobo. SYSFAN2 is the NB fan, and SYSFAN1 is the CPU HSF.
I've got two HDD's in RAID-0, so I can't unplug one of them. ON the bottom hard drive, I've got a power connector that came with the i2s adapter (4 pin male, 4 pin female, 4 pin floppy-size) hooked up. I've got a PSU line coming down that supplies power to both drives. One four pin goes to the male on the adapter from the bottom hard drive, another 4 pin female goes into the drive, and a small 4 pin goes to the adapter (I didn't use both adapters so I could reduce clutter. When I get home I'll post pics)
I've got another line from the PSU going to the CDRW and floppy drive. And Another line from the PSU goes to power the video card and one front intake fan. The only PCI card I have is the Soundblaster Audigy Gamer.
There is no way I should be taxing this power supply. NO WAY. This is so frustrating and disappointing, especially because this is my first build. The only thing I can think of is that the motherboard for some reason can't handle having three fans plugged into it. My next course of action will be to unplug the exhaust fan from the mobo, go to Fry's and buy a 3 to 4 pin adapter, and then run the exhaust fan straight from the PSU. Maybe while I'm at it I'll buy one of those Vantec Fanbus things, and hook all my case fans to it.
This sucks
leave the case open for ventilation and remove any case fans from the motherboard and check voltages for stability. I've found that most power supplies will run slightly under 12 volts (around 11.8 to 11.9 range) but they should not be varying.
I bought the True Control 5550 because I wanted to see all the voltages at their rated voltage and the True Control allows adjustment of +12, +5, and +3.3 volts.
I bought the True Control 5550 because I wanted to see all the voltages at their rated voltage and the True Control allows adjustment of +12, +5, and +3.3 volts.
Hey Duncan,
I've built two machines with the Aopen AX4C-Max and P4 3.0c cpu. Both are running great!
To answer your question you can run Motherboard Monitor and have it launch Shutdwon Now! if the temps get too high or if any fans go below a certain rpm range. This setp will work with most motherboards, not just the AOpen.
Dave
I've built two machines with the Aopen AX4C-Max and P4 3.0c cpu. Both are running great!
To answer your question you can run Motherboard Monitor and have it launch Shutdwon Now! if the temps get too high or if any fans go below a certain rpm range. This setp will work with most motherboards, not just the AOpen.
Dave
Hey wizardNJ
is there any temperature shutdown settings in the bios? wouldnt a bios setting be more reliable than software auto shutdown?
what kind of overclocking speeds can you reach on your components, they are similar to what i am thinking of getting
Thanks
is there any temperature shutdown settings in the bios? wouldnt a bios setting be more reliable than software auto shutdown?
what kind of overclocking speeds can you reach on your components, they are similar to what i am thinking of getting
Thanks
I'll give it a try when I get home.
Out of curiosity, do you have any fans connected to the SYSFAN3 connector??? I certainly don't like the idea of the rail appearing unstable to the mobo, and the fact that both MBM5 and SilenTek go crazy and tell me my system temp is -47 and CPU reached 205C. Something is either not right with the on-board monitoring, or the mobo itself.
BUt if you're reporting a stable +12v, I've got to assume it's my mobo. Hopefully disconnecting the exhaust fan from SYSFAN3 will reveal something. If not, RMA here I come.
I have the True Control 550 power supply fan rpm indication into fan3 on the motherboard. Both my intake and exhaust fans are plugged directly into the True Control 550 power supply.
Dave
Dave
THere is a setting in the bios that sets a cpu temp alarm. Once the cpu hits that temp it throttles back the cpu speed and then sends a bios warning. It will not shut down the computer. You wouldn;t want to do an inproper shutdown in Winblows (from bios).
Dave
Dave
Wizard,
Here is the latest. I unplugged the exhaust fan from the SYSFAN3 connector. Booting into the BIOS, I went to the temp/voltage, and it showed 11.67-11.55
Got into Windows. Here is where it gets interesting..................
With CPU fan OFF - voltage generally rock solid at 11.68, sometimes fluxing to 11.74
With CPU and NB fan OFF - 11.74 mostly, dipping to 11.68 at times. Still within 3% deviation
With just CPU fan on 11.68, 11.62, 11.56.........
With CPU and NB on 11.50, 11.64, 11.38. Just got the MBM5 warning that my +12vol was below 11.37.
So now what???? You think it's RMA time??? It seems the board can't handle running these two fans off itself. Also, with both of them off, I would have expected something very close to +12, ont 11.74.
I'm also not confident in the temps I'm getting either. Sitting here with the side panel off, the CPU idle is at 33C, and the system temp is at 39C. I don't know if this is reading right by the northbridge or what, but it doesn't seem right to be 6C warmer than the CPU..... unless I got the absolute perfect smattering of AS3 on there......
Let me know if you think it's a board problem, and I'll RMA it and either get another Aopen, or the Abit IC7-G
Here is the latest. I unplugged the exhaust fan from the SYSFAN3 connector. Booting into the BIOS, I went to the temp/voltage, and it showed 11.67-11.55
Got into Windows. Here is where it gets interesting..................
With CPU fan OFF - voltage generally rock solid at 11.68, sometimes fluxing to 11.74
With CPU and NB fan OFF - 11.74 mostly, dipping to 11.68 at times. Still within 3% deviation
With just CPU fan on 11.68, 11.62, 11.56.........
With CPU and NB on 11.50, 11.64, 11.38. Just got the MBM5 warning that my +12vol was below 11.37.
So now what???? You think it's RMA time??? It seems the board can't handle running these two fans off itself. Also, with both of them off, I would have expected something very close to +12, ont 11.74.
I'm also not confident in the temps I'm getting either. Sitting here with the side panel off, the CPU idle is at 33C, and the system temp is at 39C. I don't know if this is reading right by the northbridge or what, but it doesn't seem right to be 6C warmer than the CPU..... unless I got the absolute perfect smattering of AS3 on there......
Let me know if you think it's a board problem, and I'll RMA it and either get another Aopen, or the Abit IC7-G
I just built a second PC tonight using the P4 3.0C with the AX4C-Max and Antec True Control 550. Voltages are rock steady. Varies less than 5% from no load to full load.
I'd try to RMA for another AOpen boardc since you tried another power supply.
Dave
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I'd try to RMA for another AOpen boardc since you tried another power supply.
Dave
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Which OCZ memory has the best results on this board?
I'm looking at these:
1. OCZ EL DDR PC-3500 (2x512)
2. OCZ EL DDR PC-3200 Dual Channel (2x512)
Will the Dual Channel really do anything for me?
Will I be able to run the two 3500 Sticks at the same spec as the 3200 anyway?
Thanks!
I'm looking at these:
1. OCZ EL DDR PC-3500 (2x512)
2. OCZ EL DDR PC-3200 Dual Channel (2x512)
Will the Dual Channel really do anything for me?
Will I be able to run the two 3500 Sticks at the same spec as the 3200 anyway?
Thanks!
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