Official AMD Polaris Review Thread: Radeon RX 480, RX 470, and RX 460

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zinfamous

zinfamous

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R0H1T said:
We've been over this before, sure there a number of mobos that can & will support over 75W of power draw from the PCIe slot. That however was not an issue with high quality/recent boards, there are many budget systems out there with old, or fairly new MBs, but questionable power supplies that'll go kaput when you OC this card especially the AIB versions.
Therefore in the interest of everyone AIB's have gone 8pin & shifted power draw from the slot to the PSU, this will not only shield the MB & to a lesser extent PSU as well, but also AMD & the GPU maker themselves. You could say going 8pin is an idiot proof safety measure & in this care more is better IMO.
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I think the advice or at least the theory behind the advice is sound, but what is the actual adoption/existence of such mobos and PSUs out in the wild right now? Even budget MoBos and especially PSUs have been pushed out with superior capacitors and board components for the last decade now. It seems that overall quality of components has drastically improved, even at the budget level. 80plus bronze and above level PSUs from all vendors have been widely available for a very long time now and wouldn't any of them that meet this specification have no issues dealing with this kind of power draw? (which is still generally far below the previous generation of GPUs--which I still don't understand. GPUs have been doing this up until 3 weeks ago when 480 came out and did that unexpectedly...but it is suddenly a real problem now? Again, I don't get it)

Is there a decent price range we can look at to quantify the quality of motherboard or PSU that would be vulnerable?

Are we talking about sub $50 MoBos or are people actually trying to argue that anything without a "Gaming" tag and a $200+ price tag on the mobo, or sub $70 PSU is somehow trash and should be avoided?

I honestly don't know as I haven't ever seen this statement qualified. I'm curious, because I think a real target at the hardware class here would actually be useful here rather than "people have trash stuff and trash stuff should avoid this card" type of statements. Basically, what is "trash"?

Gigabyte, for example, makes tons of motherboards at enthusiast and business class, but all of them (that I am aware of) use quality mosfets and copper plating and it would shock me if ~$100 business class, non-OC MoBo for them would ever see a problem with 480-like power draw.
 
sze5003

sze5003

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Magic Carpet said:
The primary problem of the RX 480 is lack of availability of the custom models. I hate that the ref. model doesn't come with a DVI-D connector. No Vulkan benchmark is going to fix that, unfortunately. Might as well pay more for the 1070.
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The only thing is you would be paying over $50 extra msrp for the 1070 although most of the models are available now.
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There was a very large initial supply (supposedly 20x the stock of the the 1070/1080) but they did sell out very fast, all for the reference designs.

The custom partner boards should start trickling out within the next week or two and, supposedly, those vendors had a very large stock to work with prior to the reference releases, so expect a new flood of those when they release.

But you better jump on them release day when they become available because it looks like they will be even more competitive.
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Sapphire nitro should be on sale July 21, powercooler the 22nd I think. I'm going to try and work from home one of those days and see if I can snag one.

Do we know reputable sites besides newegg and Amazon in the US that will also have them that day without overcharging.

If I can't grab one on release guess I'll be stuck without a card until at least September since I'm sure they will be out through August. I wish we could just do a preorder.
 
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sze5003 said:
The only thing is you would be paying over $50 extra msrp for the 1070 although most of the models are available now.

Sapphire nitro should be on sale July 21, powercooler the 22nd I think. I'm going to try and work from home one of those days and see if I can snag one.

Do we know reputable sites besides newegg and Amazon in the US that will also have them that day without overcharging.

If I can't grab one on release guess I'll be stuck without a card until at least September since I'm sure they will be out through August. I wish we could just do a preorder.
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https://www.nowinstock.net/computers/videocards/amd/rx480/ this is what you want to use. you can use it for any video card.
 
stuff_me_good

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I wish the reference model would have 8 pin connector instead 6 pin, because I have accelero extreme 4 laying on the floor, but the reference design is so sad that It wont OC much even with the accelero cooler. :(
 
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stuff_me_good said:
I wish the reference model would have 8 pin connector instead 6 pin, because I have accelero extreme 4 laying on the floor, but the reference design is so sad that It wont OC much even with the accelero cooler. :(
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should have waited for non reference 3rd party releases.
 
Magic Carpet

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With AMD one must have patience, it's like a bottle of good wine. Gets better with time, heh.

Still amazed what Vulkan did with Doom even to GCN 1.0 cards. And just to quote Doom again, lol:

"Amazing things will happen here soon, you just wait" :cool:

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sze5003

sze5003

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Stuka87 said:
A long time? As in, two whole weeks?

Rumors say end of this week for PowerColor and Sapphire.
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Yea both are scheduled to come out the 22nd. A long time may be true since I don't think all of us that want one will be able to snag one before it's sold out, leaving you to wait another 2-3 weeks.

Also if anyone here in the US manages to buy two nitros assuming the prices will be what we speculate, I would be willing to take one off your hands for what you paid including shipping. I have a feeling something may happen at work and I may not be able to be on to catch one early if it does go on sale this Thursday or Friday.
 
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Rumors seem to suggest as early as this week from some vendors and as late as mid August for some Asus cards. I'd like to find some obscure sites that might sell cards because in Nowinstock.net, they sell out too fast. I wonder if some people are macroing their purchases to beat out others.
 
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sze5003

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JustMe21 said:
Rumors seem to suggest as early as this week from some vendors and as late as mid August for some Asus cards. I'd like to find some obscure sites that might sell cards because in Nowinstock.net, they sell out too fast. I wonder if some people are macroing their purchases to beat out others.
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There was one dude from Bitcoin forum bought a whole lot of reference 480's and was selling them for $10 more than msrp. I don't doubt people will do that now too.
 
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3DVagabond said:
It's almost like they try and make their cards as ugly as possible. lol
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I wouldn't care two hoots about the looks, if the new HIS can make as legendary cooling products as from x1900xtx days :D

That said, the powercolor devil/ asus strix seem more promising for out and out performance, but let us see.
 
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3DVagabond

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garagisti said:
I wouldn't care two hoots about the looks, if the new HIS can make as legendary cooling products as from x1900xtx days :D

That said, the powercolor devil/ asus strix seem more promising for out and out performance, but let us see.
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Just meant as an observation. :)
 
sze5003

sze5003

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Stuka87 said:
Worst part is that its so tall it wont fit in a lot of cases.
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Not only that but it's probably going to be the card that may have the higher price tag too due to its design. Although the asus rog could tie with it in price.
 
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krumme

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sze5003 said:
Anything above $300 and I'm considering spending 100 more and going with a 1070. That's too close in my liking. Let's hope the sapphire is a decent price.
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Absolutely to high. Dont worry. It will not last. When 1070 is 370 this is 240. Yeaa ...:)

But there will be other cards. The interesting part is the gpu can go so high. Good news.
 
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