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Nucleus said-
"I think u guys r using P4 C type and higher stock CPU speed."

Your are right. Almost anyone with an fsb very far over 200 is using a P4c processor. If you can get to 2.9gig at default vcore with your 533fsb processor that's very good. You could try raising the vcore one step at a time up to 1.65 maximum if you want to try to go farther.
 
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Originally posted by: computer
All of that I knew except for that one area about the 3:2 and 5:4 dividers and how that worked exactly, and thanks for that info. :)
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btw, in my explanation I use FSB for everything, this might not be the correct thing to call all of them but I don't want to tax myself thinking about it.

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Hi,

I have an ABIT IS7 and 2 x 256 Corsair 3200LL TWINX Dual Channel RAM. I am currently not overclocking at all, and in the BIOS the soft menu is set to default for my processor, which is a P4 2.8c. I just downloaded the latest version of CPUZ (1.19a), and it now shows you the memory frequency currently running. Now what I am concerned about is that on mine, it shows Frequency 160.4 MHz and FSB:DRAM at 5:4 This cannot be true can it? I mean it should be running at 1:1 correct, since in my BIOS it is default, and when I boot up, the screen says RAM 200/200, which means it is should be running at 200MHz correct? Is there any other software that would be able to report this information, so I could compare it to CPUZ. Also, if anyone else can, please check their computer using the latest CPUZ, just so we can find out if it is my problem, or with CPUZ reporting it. Thanks.

SuperG03
 
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Originally posted by: Dead Parrot Sketch
Nucleus said-
"I think u guys r using P4 C type and higher stock CPU speed."

Your are right. Almost anyone with an fsb very far over 200 is using a P4c processor. If you can get to 2.9gig at default vcore with your 533fsb processor that's very good. You could try raising the vcore one step at a time up to 1.65 maximum if you want to try to go farther.
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Previously I said, using 1:1 DRAM ratio, it's actually running at 5:4(I'm using 333DRAM).

Dead Parrot, I would need to change my HSF if wanna do that. I still haven't try 3.0Gig with stock Vcore. Scared might burst the CPU if w/o better HSF. Is Coolermaster is good(the one w/o heat sink pipe...)

BTW, anybody know how to OC VGA card? Is it by changing the AGP ratio? I'm using MSI GFX 5200 128mb.
 
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I have a strange feeling one of my harddiscs (if not both) is holding me back. Last night I upped the voltage on the cpu by 1 step, I think 0,005 V or something. And it booted just fine passed the bios check. Memory was at 265, 3:2, all of GAT enabled (dont know if I had agp fixed ggrrr). But I got an error just before window had to start, something about not beiing able to find the win sys dir or might be corrupt. Scared the sh*t out of me thinking I lost everything again. Anyway, after running default it just started up, no problems.

Anyone have some info their harddisc(s)? what best? to run a fresh install? use ntfs or not? anythings welcome :)
 
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You can get errors like that from bad memory, or, incorrect memory settings. WATCH IT though because those type errors caused by at least bad memory can MESS UP YOUR HD's!! I've seen it happen many times with bad memory, and again recently. So possibly the same could happen from incorrect settings as well since the errors are similar. If you're going to mess around with memory timings or settings, be sure before each run your HD is backed up, or at LEAST your registry is and you set the system restore point (XP Pro or ME). I don't know if that would help, but it wouldn't hurt.

NTFS is more secure, uses space more logically and you rarely need to defrag. But FAT32 is faster. By how much I don't know, I've never tested it but I am when I get this new mobo on my Raptor......I'm going to first format one way and run some bench's then reformat the other way and run them again.
 
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Are any of you that are o'clocking your 2.4C using a chip from Costa Rica? I just got my (retail) 2.4C in and to my dismay the SOB is Costa Rica (SL6WF), not Malay as I had hoped. If the CR chip will OC as good as the Malaysian, I'll keep it. Or should it return or sell it, and try again for one from Malay?
 
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At this moment I got it at 2.4

I can hit 3.0ghz very easy with 3:2, 250fsb, standard vcore etc etc. After that it gets sh*t. I havent really tried every setting etc though. Will be back when I hit 3.5ghz :p
 
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computer

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What doc file?

Just look on pages 16 and or 17 here for PAT info. Or search this forum and find a ton on it.
 
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CPU-Z Report

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CPU-Z version 1.18.


Number of CPUs 1

Cpu Name Intel Pentium 4 (Northwood)
Specification Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.40GHz
Family / Model / Stepping F 2 9
Extended Family / Model 0 0
Brand ID 9
Package mPGA-478
Core Stepping D1
Technology 0.13µ
Supported Instructions Sets MMX, SSE, SSE2
CPU Clock Speed 3121.4 MHz
Clock multiplier x 12.0
Front Side Bus Frequency 260.1 MHz
Bus Speed 1040.5 MHz

cpu voltage at 1,5750V. 3:2. CPC disabled, rest of GAT on auto. Booted into windows with a temp around 53 celcius. Didnt run any tests though, surfed the internet a little. After this I tried to run at 267 FSB to hit 3.2ghz, but it crashed when going into windows. After this I upped the cpu voltage to 1,6V, crashed at the same spot again. More tweaking and reading needed :p

[edit] I had HT disabled, dunno in what way this might have helped in stability

 
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nothing really, but I had an asus p4b533 before getting this abit is7-e and im just curious of what the p4p800 will do with this 2.4c cpu. secondly i am more of an asus guy who thought to give abit a try again (my last abit board was the bx6 rev2 :p ). anyway i dunno if they accept the rma request, we'll see.
 
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Then I'm out of luck (I doubt it tho it will do worse) :|

anyway, im following what the ic7-max3 will be doing as soon as the first reviews hit the net, if any good maybe i'll switch to it in 1-2 months after the release over here in the Netherlands.
 
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computer

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The IS7 a good bit faster than the IC7xxxxx so I doubt the MAX will change that. From what I recall it just has different PS cooling and more RAID connectors (and CSA & ECC of course which has no bearing on o'clocking). From what I've read so far, the P4P800 DELUXE (which is what you want) o'clocks a few mhz better than the IS7 according to the Anand mobo roundup. Only about 3 or 4mhz I believe. Same results with the 875 P4C800, however another site showed the P4C800 as practically smoking the IS7 at o'clock speeds. The only way to be sure of these things is to buy every damn good mobo out there and test them yourself......which is what I'm tempted to do because this fiasco of trying to decide which 865/875 mobo to get it driving me nuts. Each site you check out seems to have different things to say as far as the fastest, although all sites agree that the IS7x and P4C/P4P Asus are among the best if not the best mobo's out there. They each are usually #1 or #2.
 
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Yeah I saw that and it's one of the mobo's I'm considering (I'm considering the IS7, IS7-G, maybe IC7-G, P4P800 DELUXE, maybe P4C800-E DELUXE, MSI 865 Neo2 FIS2R, and GA-8KNXP). Too many issues last I heard about MSI's BIOS problems and not being able to change memory settings with the latest BIOS, plus heat issues, which I found out more regarding these things on the thread here about it. It really is a VERY fast board though, the only faults the review sites I found had with it was BIOS problems (they didn't mention the heat and memory settings). 8KNXP is just TOOOOOOOO expensive, as is the P4C800 & IC7-G, but all awesome boards. Of course for some reason the dam' Anand review left out the 865 Neo, they only tested the 875 version. Really the best thing to do is get each of these boards from a place that you can easily return them, test each of them, and when you're through get the one that is the fastest, most stable. Also the longer you wait the better since better BIOS versions will be out that will show more of what each mobo is capable of before you buy it.

I was not considering the IC7-G until someone here mentioned it was FASTER in his case than the IS7! CSA and ECC is nice, and if it is indeed faster, I may get it. But, he hasn't replied back as to the results in trying the best recommended settings in the IS7 he's using. I posted somewhere earlier in this thread the part of the Anand review that said the IS7 was faster than the IC7, so I'm very interested in why exactly his IS7 is slower.
 
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