*** Official ABIT IC7/G (875P) Thread ***

[thatsright]

Originally posted by: OuiKikUrAzz
I have a Abit IC7-G Motherboard, my northbridge fan fell off, AGAIN (2nd time). First time I RMA'ed...the reason I think is because my thermalright hsf is so big it is leaning onto the northbridge fan and it's pushing it off of the motherboard...however since the nortibridge fan doesn't use push pins but some other type of hold down (really cheap hold down), that it can esaily be pushed off with enough lasting force.

My question now is should I use thermal epoxy and just stick the fan onto the northbridge forever? I think this is cheaper and faster than RMA'ing the board and getting a new different board.

Suggestions?

Well I'd say go with the Thermal Epoxy, but only IF your not overclocking. I know that with the thermal epoxy it reduces the thermal efficiency (read: slightly higher temps than with some AS3), so you may want to think about this. BUT: if your not OCing, it may be the way to go. Also, once you glue that baby on nothing will get it off; short of a X-Acto knife or crowbar Now if you are OCing, you may want to try out the Tiger 1 NB Fan/Heatsink cooler, which may be a bit more demur in size to accommodate your CPU cooler.

Hope this helps.

 

[PCnuTT]

Originally posted by: softwebdev
here is my new spec

P4 2.4C

abit ic7 ( first time using abit )

2 kingston 512mb PC3500 (Model KHX3500/512R)

swiftech fan

i want to overclock to max. What is the best setup for this board ???

thank you

Have you had any success with your setup? I have the same memory but have a 2.6c would like to know what you have acheived.

 

[KillerBob]

I think the decrasing frequency of posts here is simply due to the childhood problems already discussed to death. My rig runs like a dream, and I have no HW problems (except for not being able to take my 3.0 past 230FSB with a 1:1 RAM divider

 

[KillerBob]

With Intel's new gaming CPU in the works, does anyone know if that one will fit/work with our IC7-Gs? I hear it'll be a 3.2G 800FSB 2Mb Cache CPU, which should beat the crap out of my 3.0G.

 

[computer]

If you are speaking of the "Prescott", the net is full of those questions. Last I checked, Intel won't say what format it will be, and possibly erroneously many 865/875 mobo makers NOW are claiming "Prescott support". Unless the mobo makers have some inside info that can't be found on the net, who knows if the current boards will actually support the Prescott. MSI and Asus are two that come to mind that ARE saying their 800mhz 865/875 mobo's will support it. Abit may as well be claiming that. You know though that if Intel stays true to form, they will render the 865/875 mobo's obsolete.

 

[thatsright]

Originally posted by: computer
If you are speaking of the "Prescott", the net is full of those questions. Last I checked, Intel won't say what format it will be, and possibly erroneously many 865/875 mobo makers NOW are claiming "Prescott support". Unless the mobo makers have some inside info that can't be found on the net, who knows if the current boards will actually support the Prescott. MSI and Asus are two that come to mind that ARE saying their 800mhz 865/875 mobo's will support it. Abit may as well be claiming that. You know though that if Intel stays true to form, they will render the 865/875 mobo's obsolete.

Prescott CPU's on the IC7 line:I just want to let everyone here know that the IC7 & IC7-G in NO WAY can they support the Prescott CPU or the P5, if they eventually call it that. Intel just released new FMB 1.5 specification for 865/875 chipset motherboards, which is to handle the INSANE power requirements for the newer Prescott CPU's. But, the one thing I'm not sure about is if the IC7-Max3 can handle the Prescott CPU, but I'd be 90% willing to say no on that one. Also, Motherboard manufactures have a added incentive for themselves (read: more sales) to require those who want Prescott support, to ditch their current 865/875 rigs, and be forced to buy a new MB with the revised power requirements. Sure it sucks if you just bought a new Motherboard in the last 4 months or so, but companies like ABIT LOVE this, as well as Intel cause they get to sell more CPU's and chipsets.


As for the P4 EXTREME EDITION CPU: I wasn't aware that they were calling it the P4G now? I thought Intel was going to call it the P4c EE. Basically it's a re-badged Xenon CPU, just repackaged to fit in a 478-pin ZIF socket type assembly. As Intel stated at the IDF conference, there is no need for a new BIOS upgrade & it WILL fit in your current 478 Pin socket motherboard. It looks pretty nifty, but certainly not it's >$700 price tag. Performance wise, I read that benchmarks show a bit of a performance boost in the range of 15% for Comanche; which doesn't seem that big of a deal to me or make it wroth the effort to upgrade? I might get one in a year or two if I still have this board, but by then I'm sure I will of gotten rid of my IC7 for something that can support a Prescott CPU and it's 1MB of L2. I wonder how 2MB of L3 cache with the P4c EE would compare against 1MB of L2 cache of the Prescott?

Hope this helps, and informs.........

And thats my $0.03

 

[computer]

Interesting. That doesn't surprise me about the Prescott. Those mobo makers are going to catch hell for stating at their sites and in the manuals "Support for Prescott processor"!! I thought the Prescott had 2mb cache? that's what they said on TechTV at least (on "The Screensavers").

 

[thatsright]

Originally posted by: computer
Interesting. That doesn't surprise me about the Prescott. Those mobo makers are going to catch hell for stating at their sites and in the manuals "Support for Prescott processor"!! I thought the Prescott had 2mb cache? that's what they said on TechTV at least (on "The Screensavers").

I can't recall how much L1 cache Prescott will have over the P4c, but I think it will double, or at least be a bit more. For L2, it will be 1MB of L2, and unlike the P4c EE, their will be NO L3 cache. But I wonder which is more beneficial: 2X the L2 cache for Prescott and No L3 cache OR 1/2 the L2 cache and 2MB of L3 cache for the P4c EE? Only the benchmarks will tell I guess.........

And for one rare time, it's hard for me to get mad at the MOBO makers about the Prescott support thing. Yes, I thought when I bought my IC7 that it would be able to take Prescott, but it ain't gonna happen; thats just the nature of the PC industry when we're on the cutting edge I guess. As when the 865/875 boards came out in April/May time frame, Intel and all of the board makers fully expected that their new boards would support the upcoming Prescott CPU. But by early summer, Intel found that the Prescott would require a newer Power requirement to handle the Massive Power loads that Prescott/P5 will need? Only about a month or two after the 865 Motherboards came out did news start to leak out in the industry that a new 865/875 Revision would be needed to handle the new Prescott CPU's. (And last week, Intel made it official with a press release about the new FBM 1.5 specification.) Therefore, for anyonw who already bought a 865/875 MB then your board won't cut it with the Prescott. Though I know of two (I believe ASUS) boards that just came out that claim full Prescott voltage requirement support. So many will need to buy a new MB (besides the Prescott CPU we were going to have to get anyway), but I'm not sure if I will do this as I don't upgrade that often (the IC7 is my first new MB in 4 1/2 years). But if I do, at least I won't have to replace EVERYTHING, like the RAM, Case, PS, Vid Card when the new P5?/Socket-T/PCI-X/BTX/DDR2/Motherboards come out in Q3 or Q4 of 2004.

And now, thats just my $0.05

 

[computer]

Yeah, it's usually Intel making all the changes and them causing mobo makers to scramble for new boards or chipsets to support Intel's new CPU's.

It may be a toss-up as for the cache amount/location for performance. I know L2 is more important than L3 and you want more L2 than L3 cache.

Do you know when the Prescotts are supposed to come out and how much they are going to be? Maybe I should wait on a mobo.

 

[thatsright]

Okay folks here is a lot more Update Info on the forthcoming Prescott CPU. It will be 'released' (read: paper launched) on December 3rd 03. So you might be able to get a CPU by the end of the year, but don't hold your breath. And if you can get one when it's launched it will set ya back a not so cool price of $637. I guess this is keeping in line with the not so cool thermal characteristics this baby will be giving off.........
If you ever wanted to buy a Water cooling kit, this is the CPU to get it for!

Hope this informs & Helps.......

 

[computer]

Wow. Well, at $417 & up I think I can say I'll continue on with the plans for an 875 mobo.

 

[thatsright]

Originally posted by: computer
Wow. Well, at $417 & up I think I can say I'll continue on with the plans for an 875 mobo.

Yeah, my feelings exactly Computer. I know that Prescott will be a knockout CPU, but to spend $600+ or so for a CPU and then another $200 or so for another High-end MB all within 6 Months of buying my IC7 & P4c=No Thanks. I think that the P4c 3.2Ghz and then the P4 EE line will be the last CPU's that we can run on our IC7 boards. Right now I'm running my P4c 2.4Ghz @ 3.1Ghz, and in doing so I saved my self about $500 when I put my system together so I'm 'sittin perrrty.' I know that my Ram is holding me back a bit, but this is self-imposed. I'm running my HyperX PC3500 @ 2-2-2-5 timings (with all of the GAT turned off) and honestly, I'd rather have a lot tighter timings than maybe a extra 200Mhz more of overclock and slower RAM timings.

I think maybe in a year+, then I will consider buying a P4 EE CPU, as I'm sure they will of come down in price by then. I plan on keeping my board for at least two to three years and I hope Intel will release more than just one version of the P4 EE.

Anyone else in here know if the IC7-MAX3 can support the new Prescott CPU's??

 

[computer]

I was just about to leave, but I just saw something a few minutes ago at the MSI Neo forums about the Prescott. MSI said something like "FPM 1.5" and "FPM 2.0" whatever that means...and that the 865 Neo2 FIS2R WOULD support "FPM 1.5" but not 2.0. I'll get the link later on and post it here. From what I could gather, those are two types of Prescott CPU's.

 

[Kongzi]

Whelp my NB fan just popped off last night What a pain in the arse. Think I'll get a MAX3 if the problem isn't on that board or go with Asus, then just RMA the IC7 and sell the replacement.

 

[computer]

Well, the page is still down for "maintenance", but here's the link . I can't look in the forums now but I think it was in the FAQ's section toward the bottom of that page.

What is the deal with these fans and them falling off????? The fans can't be put back on? If not, Abit should be fixing this free of charge.

 

[thatsright]

Originally posted by: computer
Well, the page is still down for "maintenance", but here's the link . I can't look in the forums now but I think it was in the FAQ's section toward the bottom of that page.

What is the deal with these fans and them falling off????? The fans can't be put back on? If not, Abit should be fixing this free of charge.

The new fan design, based purely on cooling purposes is a great improvement over the 1st Generation of the stock cooling. But they made a HUGE step back wards by designing it with just two retention hooks. Besides the fact that it is less secure placement, my newer IC7 NB HSF actually rocks back and forth due to just the two damn hooks!! So, I have never been 100% sure that the Heatsink is making 100% contact on top of the NB chip? If there were 4 hooks for the new design, then it wouldn't be possible for it to even move at all once it it secured on all 4 sides.


On a bit of a different note, but still VERY ALARMING: How many of you have upgraded to the IC7 Ver. 1.7 Bios and are experiencing the Cold-Boot to shutdown problem. Basically with the new 1.7 bios, when I turn on my PC every 8th time, I will hit the power button it will go thru the post process for about 2 seconds, and then the power will cut off. I will never even hear the mandatory single POST beep to notify that a successful POST process has completed. This doesn't happen when I restart, only when I cold boot. MANY folks over at the ABIT forums have also experienced this problem.

Anyone else have this issue? Thanks guys.

 

[Kongzi]

My guess is that the IC7s didn't have the clips soldered on good enough since the old fan didn't exert as much pressure as the new one. I'm considerding a MAX3 now. I'm hoping these don't have a problem. I haven't seen anyone on the Abit forums with this problem on the MAX3. Anyone have a MAX3 or know of any problems with them?

 

[welrope9]

will thermalrights new slk 947 u hs fit on the ic7g max3? i have ordered the motherboard today but i want to get a top quality hs. newegg does not have the 900u only the 900a and 947u. thanks also how about the zalman 7000 on max 3

 

[Sandoz]

Hey yall,
have any IC7-G optimal Bios settings and ddr PC3500 timings? I have 1gb of geil golden dual.

Thanks!

 

[hytek369]

Originally posted by: Kongzi
My guess is that the IC7s didn't have the clips soldered on good enough since the old fan didn't exert as much pressure as the new one. I'm considerding a MAX3 now. I'm hoping these don't have a problem. I haven't seen anyone on the Abit forums with this problem on the MAX3. Anyone have a MAX3 or know of any problems with them?

just got a sp-94 on my max3. tight fit, but it is a beast afterall

 

[Soulkeeper]

I'm thinking about getting this board, do any of you know if this board will support a 400mhz fsb 1.8ghz P4m ????




thanks

 

[T-man]

DOES THE maX3 bios W/ hIGHER vCORE FOR THE MEMORY WORK WITH THE IC7-g?

 

[vailr]

Originally posted by: Soulkeeper
I'm thinking about getting this board, do any of you know if this board will support a 400mhz fsb 1.8ghz P4m ????

AFAIK: No.(Correct me if I'm wrong).
Only 533 MHz or 800 MHz FSB CPU's are supported by the Intel 865/875 chipsets.

 

[Ph33zy]

Originally posted by: vailr

Originally posted by: Soulkeeper
I'm thinking about getting this board, do any of you know if this board will support a 400mhz fsb 1.8ghz P4m ????

AFAIK: No.(Correct me if I'm wrong).
Only 533 MHz or 800 MHz FSB CPU's are supported by the Intel 865/875 chipsets.

it will support 400fsb P4. however they have to be northwoody's and not willamete's...



btw, anyone try the 1.8 beta bios?

 

[mngisdood]

I've heard good things (esp. stability wise) for the beta bios, but unfortunately overclocking results remained the same.... I'll hopefully get my IC7 back so I can test it out myself in the near future...